No smoking in Restaurants...

[Anonymouse]

Who wants to be sucking back smoke while eating a meal. I know plenty of smokers who don't want to inhale someone else's smoke while eating. Non-smoking sections just do not work. Unfortunately smoke moves from one side of the building to the other. And not all of the employees enjoy it either. Long term exposure isn't doing anyone's health any good.

[Michael Jones]

Anonymouse wrote:

Who wants to be sucking back smoke while eating a meal. I know plenty of smokers who don't want to inhale someone else's smoke while eating. Non-smoking sections just do not work. Unfortunately smoke moves from one side of the building to the other. And not all of the employees enjoy it either. Long term exposure isn't doing anyone's health any good.

Agreed. I don't mind breathing it when I gamble. I can and do wear a mask to filter out most of the smoke that lays in layers in the casinos. But in a restaurant, I think it's just plain rude to smoke. It is quite nauseating to me...

I am glad the state of Nevada restored my right to breath decent air while eating...

[r2sender]

I'm a p-time server...and a smoker who wants to quit. so maybe it will help me do that...until then I'd like to know where I can smoke..in
Nashville,Tn...is there a list??
email: [e-mail]

[erinlyn]

I feel that a no smoking policy in restaurants is a positive tactic, but I don't think it should be banned from bars b/c alot of customers will not be patrons of that bar anymore. I, for one, have stopped going to a local fav. to watch the football games b/c the bar has a no smoking rule. Let's just face it: MOST people smoke while drinking. Even some nonsmokers will ocassionally light up.

[Michael Jones]

erinlyn wrote:

I feel that a no smoking policy in restaurants is a positive tactic, but I don't think it should be banned from bars b/c alot of customers will not be patrons of that bar anymore. I, for one, have stopped going to a local fav. to watch the football games b/c the bar has a no smoking rule. Let's just face it: MOST people smoke while drinking. Even some nonsmokers will ocassionally light up.

Well then they wouldn't be nonsmokers then would they. But I do get your point. If I go into a bar I expect to breath second hand smoke. It just goes with the territory. So long story short, I don't go to bars very much.

[UKOH]

erinlyn wrote:

I feel that a no smoking policy in restaurants is a positive tactic, but I don't think it should be banned from bars b/c alot of customers will not be patrons of that bar anymore. I, for one, have stopped going to a local fav. to watch the football games b/c the bar has a no smoking rule. Let's just face it: MOST people smoke while drinking. Even some nonsmokers will ocassionally light up.

That's only because non smokers are chased out of the bars because they cannot stand the air!

I have lived and worked in Germany which has NO BAN on smoking in restaurants , bars, even in the work place. For a non smoker allowing smoking in office space is flat out immoral. I have a choice whether I go to a bar or restaurant. I have NO choice about the work place. Why should I be made to endager my health just to keep my job?

The arguments in Germany about banning smoking in restaurants are similar to those you make about bars. The restaurant owners are paranoid about loosing clientelle. I've got news for you. Bars (here) and restaurants and bars (in Germany and other European countries) ARE ALREADY loosing clientelle! Non smokers cannot stand it so don't go there. As the population of non smokers in the USA far outweighs the population of smokers (and I worked for a short while at a tobacco product company which keeps close scientific tabs on these things - it is a valid statistic) the probability is that bars in the USA would GAIN more customers by banning smoking than they would loose.

Good reasons indeed to make choices beneficial to eveybody's health.

[jacqueline 91]

ok i agreed

[Anonymouse]

UKOH wrote:

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That's only because non smokers are chased out of the bars because they cannot stand the air!
I have lived and worked in Germany which has NO BAN on smoking in restaurants , bars, even in the work place. For a non smoker allowing smoking in office space is flat out immoral. I have a choice whether I go to a bar or restaurant. I have NO choice about the work place. Why should I be made to endager my health just to keep my job?
The arguments in Germany about banning smoking in restaurants are similar to those you make about bars. The restaurant owners are paranoid about loosing clientelle. I've got news for you. Bars (here) and restaurants and bars (in Germany and other European countries) ARE ALREADY loosing clientelle! Non smokers cannot stand it so don't go there. As the population of non smokers in the USA far outweighs the population of smokers (and I worked for a short while at a tobacco product company which keeps close scientific tabs on these things - it is a valid statistic) the probability is that bars in the USA would GAIN more customers by banning smoking than they would loose.
Good reasons indeed to make choices beneficial to eveybody's health.

No doubt it isn't fair that someone should have to be exposed to smoke all day in their workplace, no matter what that workplace is. It isn't that difficult for someone to go outside on their breaks to smoke. It happens all the time in many locations, and it works very well.

[Mom of 3 in KY]

True Grit wrote:

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This is not only a good start, the best is yet to come, when the FDA regulates tobacco can you imagine the hair pulling from tobacco execs? Just think of AMTRAK. I have yet to see any government program that regulates any industry run smoothly or for that fact run at all.
one city one state one NATION at a time TOBACCO free. The law and the bans go on and on and on.

Can't you come up with something original? Wait...still one celled at a time..many cell free...moron.

[Lucy44]

Okay, I will stop smoking in restaurants when parents learn to control their children. That is, stop them from running all over the restaurant, crying, screaming, having a FIT when they don't get what they want, slamming silverware on the table, turning around and staring at me while I am eating, the list goes on and on.(And yes, I have 2 kids still at home, and they know how to act when out in public).

Kids can be an annoyance sometimes as well - shall we ban THEM?????

[Anonymouse]

Lucy44 wrote:

Okay, I will stop smoking in restaurants when parents learn to control their children. That is, stop them from running all over the restaurant, crying, screaming, having a FIT when they don't get what they want, slamming silverware on the table, turning around and staring at me while I am eating, the list goes on and on.(And yes, I have 2 kids still at home, and they know how to act when out in public).
Kids can be an annoyance sometimes as well - shall we ban THEM?????

Do noisy kids kill an estimated 50,000+ Americans every year? Somehow I doubt it.

[Darwins Stepchild]

While I do feel that people do have a right to smoke (even if they are killing themselves) I do not feel they have the right to inflict that smoke on me, particularly when I am eating.

[Michael Jones]

Lucy44 wrote:

Okay, I will stop smoking in restaurants when parents learn to control their children. That is, stop them from running all over the restaurant, crying, screaming, having a FIT when they don't get what they want, slamming silverware on the table, turning around and staring at me while I am eating, the list goes on and on.(And yes, I have 2 kids still at home, and they know how to act when out in public).
Kids can be an annoyance sometimes as well - shall we ban THEM?????

You WILL stop smoking in Restaurants if you come to California, Nevada, Utah, Oregon and all the other states where it is illegal.

To equate smoking to ill behaved kids is really a stretch.

[Lucy44]

Michael Jones wrote:

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You WILL stop smoking in Restaurants if you come to California, Nevada, Utah, Oregon and all the other states where it is illegal.
To equate smoking to ill behaved kids is really a stretch.

Well, since I have no reason to visit those states, guess I don't have to worry about it huh? We had one restaurant in my area that stopped having smoking, and not one year later, TA DAAAAAAAAA, they allowed it again.

And no, kids don't kill 50,000 Americans a year - but, you aren't going to get cancer from eating ONE meal in a restaurant with smokers. Let me see statistics on THAT.

Funny, when I DID quit smoking, years ago, I was NEVER as vicious to smokers as some are today. Now, when you state an OPINION on a board, WHAM!! All KINDS of hostility! Sad.

[fighting for my rights]

its my freedom to do what i want to do i think ppl should be able to smoke were they want im not even a smoker and i think it should be allowed juts because its ppl choice

[UKOH]

Lucy44 wrote:

Okay, I will stop smoking in restaurants when parents learn to control their children. That is, stop them from running all over the restaurant, crying, screaming, having a FIT when they don't get what they want, slamming silverware on the table, turning around and staring at me while I am eating, the list goes on and on.(And yes, I have 2 kids still at home, and they know how to act when out in public).
Kids can be an annoyance sometimes as well - shall we ban THEM?????

I am disturbed by smoking in restaurants AND noisy kids in restaurants.

Yes, by all means complain and get the retaurant manager to do something about it but since when do two wrongs make a right?

You sound like my wife. Whenever I am trying to have a rational discussion she comes up with a long list of the things (totally unrelated to the topic under discussion) that I am alledgedly doing bad at.

The existance of another problem does NOT justify perpetuating the existance of the original one. The answer is not to keep the first problem just because another one exists.

Solve smoking in restaurants AND noisy kids!

[Eric Johnson]

Lucy44 wrote:

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Well, since I have no reason to visit those states, guess I don't have to worry about it huh?

It'll happen in your state soon, probably a good idea to save your worrying for then.

[Rice]

I am for the smoking ban. If smokers want to smoke they need to do it away from others who chose not to smoke. I have asthma and chose to breath then wheeze. When you feel like you have a piece of plastic wrap over your mouth and nose it is a VERY bad feeling. My wanting to breath, you know it is natural, is not offending anyone else.
As for children, I agree. I have two of my own. When they acted out we went to the car and took our food with us. It's all about taking the "I" come first attitude and making ourselves aware of others.

[Rice]

I mean take the "I come first" attitude. Let us be considerate of others.

[erinlyn]

UKOH wrote:

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I am disturbed by smoking in restaurants AND noisy kids in restaurants.
Yes, by all means complain and get the retaurant manager to do something about it but since when do two wrongs make a right?
You sound like my wife. Whenever I am trying to have a rational discussion she comes up with a long list of the things (totally unrelated to the topic under discussion) that I am alledgedly doing bad at.
The existance of another problem does NOT justify perpetuating the existance of the original one. The answer is not to keep the first problem just because another one exists.
Solve smoking in restaurants AND noisy kids!

I am guessing you were the quiet kid? I suppose all of us parents' should just keep our children locked up inside the house until they become adults. I'm also guessing that you don't have children. Don't make our children yet another issue to bi*ch about.