think about it

Paducah, KY

#44 Aug 7, 2011
gearsofwar3 wrote:
<quoted text>I prefer not to use my weapons either, but I will if forced to regardless if some dumb shit crackhead needs cash or not. Them needing cash falls right into the category of not my problem. Them breaking into my house falls in to the category of there problem big time and I will solve it for them very quickly with 2 in the chest and 1 in the head. This is still a free country for now and I have the right to protect myself, anyone who happens to be at my house at that time, and protect my house and what's in it. The Founding Fathers made sure of this right when they enumerated The Second Amendment to The Bill of Rights and The Constitution.
I agree with you. And Hell, yeah! to the 2nd Amendment.

But my point was that a crackhead will get money one way or another, and if you cut off their welfare, they will have much more incentive to steal. Woe be to them if they come to your door, or mine. BUT the elderly lady next door is not armed like us, so it will be easy to bash her brains in and rob her... I'd rather give them welfare.
mom of 3

Ford City, PA

#45 Aug 8, 2011
i get help with food stamps . i dont get a check every month. i work. i would actually make more if i stayed home and got a check but anyway,i am just wondering is food stamps considered welfare??
Growup

Paducah, KY

#46 Aug 8, 2011
What is welfare? Support for peoples wellbeing without being Charity! Drug testing would be great but the reason why these people are in this sutuation are because they chose cigarettes, alcohol etc. before wellbeing!! Still need support for food and medical since they can't take care of themselves so the only way to solve this is to make it where can Only be used for food period!!!
yippee

Nashville, TN

#47 Aug 10, 2011
There is a difference between welfare and foodstamps! Welfare is where the state gives you cash to support your family, there is a 5 yr time limit or something like that! Foodstamps is where you are able to buy food (I think they have stuff that looks like monopoly money! And I would rather my tax dollars be spent on drug tests than on drugs
Rat Race

Paducah, KY

#48 Aug 30, 2011
Heck yea, i'll hold the cup!
All For It

Melber, KY

#49 Aug 30, 2011
Needed it or long time!
foop

Marion, IL

#50 Aug 30, 2011
yes great idea.
awesome

Marion, IL

#51 Aug 30, 2011
people living off the government someone said. actually the gov has no money it is the tax payers money, and I dont do drugs so my money shouldnt go to people who do
Logicatorificati onism

Williamstown, KY

#53 Jun 12, 2012
awesome wrote:
people living off the government someone said. actually the gov has no money it is the tax payers money, and I dont do drugs so my money shouldnt go to people who do
That's the idea, buddy. I know families that recieve welfare and use a huge portion of it to buy cigarettes, marijuana, and other various drugs (they're not disabled or anything - they're just lazy and don't care enough to work for their money). While I don't personally consider marijuana to be a drug, it sure as hell isn't a necessity. They're using illegal marijuana. They don't receive medicinal marijuana. These are the people that need to be cut off. Also, being obese and lazy shouldn't qualify you for welfare, or any government assistance for that matter. This is common sense.
Think about the kids

Elizabethtown, KY

#54 Jun 13, 2012
What about the children in these homes?? They are the ones going to be hurt the most. Do you think that mom and dad are going to stop the drugs because they no longer getting foodstamp or the medicare card for their children??? The fact is NO. Do you think they will use what little money they do get to take the kids to the doctor?? NO....How many children will be affected by the parents mistakes and problems. Oh great now we have homes of drug user with children that are straving and sick. Sounds like to me that we are now setting up the children in a world where they have no chance of getting out. If a state does choose to do this then they need to make it mandatory to go to rehab and foot the bill for it.
yes please

Chicago, IL

#55 Jun 14, 2012
mom of 3 wrote:
i get help with food stamps . i dont get a check every month. i work. i would actually make more if i stayed home and got a check but anyway,i am just wondering is food stamps considered welfare??
yes food stamps is wellfare. It's getting something for doing nothing. The money comes from somewhere! I think anyone getting any assistance whatsoever should be subject to drug testing. Including college kids getting state grants. And while drug testing may not be cheap, it would still be cheaper than forking out hundreds per month in benefits to users.
something else

Metropolis, IL

#56 Jun 14, 2012
I know someone that gets free prescriptions for medications and then sells them every month. They should think the testing in reverse and make sure these people are also taking the medications prescribed to them and not selling.
tyler

Chicago, IL

#57 Jun 15, 2012
It is about time!!!!!

Since: Aug 11

United States

#58 Jun 15, 2012
Why would we spend money to play cat and mouse? Besides being unconstitutional This is already been proven to NOT save money...instead cost MILLIONS! But money grows on trees so who cares.

LMFAO!
getajob

South Elgin, IL

#59 Jun 15, 2012
You obviously get food stamps or other hand outs. And it's by no means unconstitutional . We who work must take drug tests so why should anyone not working, getting free money, Not have to be subjected to the same level
Of expectation? Get off your high horse. If you don't want to have to take a drug test, it's because you have something to hide. Plain and simple.
BMWRider

United States

#60 Jun 15, 2012
think about it wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you. And Hell, yeah! to the 2nd Amendment.
But my point was that a crackhead will get money one way or another, and if you cut off their welfare, they will have much more incentive to steal. Woe be to them if they come to your door, or mine. BUT the elderly lady next door is not armed like us, so it will be easy to bash her brains in and rob her... I'd rather give them welfare.
You might want to reconsider the elderly lady statement.....my 70 year old mother is armed at all times. She even has a permit to carry concealed and is NOT afraid to use it. They may want to think twice before messing with the elderly.:-)

Since: Aug 11

United States

#61 Jun 15, 2012
getajob wrote:
You obviously get food stamps or other hand outs. And it's by no means unconstitutional . We who work must take drug tests so why should anyone not working, getting free money, Not have to be subjected to the same level
Of expectation? Get off your high horse. If you don't want to have to take a drug test, it's because you have something to hide. Plain and simple.
LMAO!

I'll never have to take a drug test because I answer to no one....outside of the IRS ( and if they're pissing people then go ahead and raise the red commie flag)....that's my high horse little worker bee.

Not Unconstitional?

Not according to the Constitution...specifically the 4th amendment...you know the one about illegal search and seizure. Since when does being poor give the government probable cause to demand bodily fluid for testing of ANY kind?

I love how the minor portion of my argument was highlighted and my major point was skipped over: we can't afford to play cat and mouse with drug users. Period end of argument. The amount of money put into trying to catch FAR surpasses the money saved for the few that are caught....plus the policy has more loopholes than tax law.

For instance mother of 5 loses food stamps...how will the kids eat? Relatives are put in charge?

Pfffffttt yea I'm sure that mother would never have access to that card....

Take the kids away? That's not going to cost tax payers money....durrrr

It's a fundamentally FLAWED policy that has already failed before it has been enacted!
Stan

Kirksey, KY

#62 Jun 15, 2012
Urine drug tests are a joke and a waste of tax payers money. All they have to do is take someones clean urine in with them and put it in the bottle. So we are going to e paying for drug tests and the "welfare"!
jutst me

Mayfield, KY

#63 Jun 15, 2012
If the parents lose assistance because of a positive drug test then they don't deserve to have their kids. I am drug tested at my job so that I can have it and pay taxes to support these people. They should be tested too!
interested

Dawson Springs, KY

#64 Jun 17, 2012
think about it wrote:
<quoted text>I am not, nor have I ever been on welfare. However, I have the intelligence to understand the costs/benefits of such a law. You apparently do not...
In weighing the cost/benefits, one must consider that most drug abuser's know how to protect and cover up their addictions. There is even a topix link for answers on passing a drug test. In theory, it makes sense, but in reality it's pointless. There is a misconception that all welfare people are on drugs, but this isn't the case. The system is necessary and has many benefits as well as flaws needing to be addressed. I just don't believe this is the answer.

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