BBQ on the River were does the money go

BBQ on the River were does the money go

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Hardwood supporter

Carrier Mills, IL

#1 Oct 1, 2012
I just found out that the teams at the BBQ on the River are getting screwed by the event directors. First the teams have to pay really high prices for the items they sell at the event such as each and every case of soda sold the price is inflated so that the directors of the event get $ 4.00 per case. The meat is inflated by at least 10 %. And then there is the beer garden & Porkstock which all of the money from these goes to fund the event.(Each team entered in the event has to pay the directors over $ 700.00 as entry fees) All of this just to keep Mr. Boggs in a Job. The BBQ on the River uses funds from the event to run BBQ and More store and guess who runs itÖÖ thatís right Mr. Boggs, and just what kind of salary does he make for all of this? Well we really donít know all of that is top secret and the general public is not allowed to see an audit, why is there something to hide? I also heard that the group receives sponsorship moneys from all kinds of business (we wonder just how much Samís Club had to pay this year and just how much will they pay to get to be the meat supplier next year.)
If these people are as big of crooks as I heard I wonder just how fair the contest is. I say it is time to get new leaders for this event before the current group screws it up. Now we know why there were 10 teams that dropped out of the event this year.
I for one would like to know just where the money goes and if the event pays for the BBQ on the River group to travel to god know where to see other events or to go ď try to help them to become a real eventĒ I know, why donít the group put a complete accounting of all funds coming in and going out for the past 2 years out on the internet or as part of their web site so we the people that support the event can see just where the money goes.
Guest

Chicago, IL

#2 Oct 2, 2012
Also sad to say the minimum they must give as donations is 10%. I thought they gave much more. Paducah needs more events through the year that give the people options instead of going out of town all of the time. Maybe this type of things wouldn't happen.

“Cowforce”

Since: Jun 12

Cumquat Farms

#3 Oct 2, 2012
I would like to know why you have something like 80 something vendors and they don't sale BBQ and they are charged something and if you have over 100 vendors selling BBQ and they have to pay a fee and for electricity and to park within the booth area, where does the money go and that is before the event begins? Why is Boggs i getting this money? This should be just part of his job and he should not get extra money out of this. How much is really going to one's charity? The vendors have to buy the meats and drinks at their prices and sell at their prices. If they want to sell hotdogs, lemonade, or tea-they have to have it approved by the committee. No wonder, so many have quit particpating in this event.
i hate david

Hermitage, TN

#4 Oct 2, 2012
Hardwood supporter wrote:
I just found out that the teams at the BBQ on the River are getting screwed by the event directors. First the teams have to pay really high prices for the items they sell at the event such as each and every case of soda sold the price is inflated so that the directors of the event get $ 4.00 per case. The meat is inflated by at least 10 %. And then there is the beer garden & Porkstock which all of the money from these goes to fund the event.(Each team entered in the event has to pay the directors over $ 700.00 as entry fees) All of this just to keep Mr. Boggs in a Job. The BBQ on the River uses funds from the event to run BBQ and More store and guess who runs it…… that’s right Mr. Boggs, and just what kind of salary does he make for all of this? Well we really don’t know all of that is top secret and the general public is not allowed to see an audit, why is there something to hide? I also heard that the group receives sponsorship moneys from all kinds of business (we wonder just how much Sam’s Club had to pay this year and just how much will they pay to get to be the meat supplier next year.)
If these people are as big of crooks as I heard I wonder just how fair the contest is. I say it is time to get new leaders for this event before the current group screws it up. Now we know why there were 10 teams that dropped out of the event this year.
I for one would like to know just where the money goes and if the event pays for the BBQ on the River group to travel to god know where to see other events or to go ¬ď try to help them to become a real event¬Ē I know, why don¬ít the group put a complete accounting of all funds coming in and going out for the past 2 years out on the internet or as part of their web site so we the people that support the event can see just where the money goes.
Believe me, they use the money to go to plenty of other BBQ events. Boggs is a joke and so is Suzie. Just ask Carol Gault. She is in on it, too. I would love to know why David Boggs get paid a year. That should be public info.
Mitchell Wright

Carrier Mills, IL

#5 Oct 2, 2012
How dare you question these two queens, you have no right to question what they do and how much it cost. They own this event and you need not question where the money goes and as far as them taking trips out of town at the expense of the BBQ on the River that too is just none of your business. David and Suzy are so much better than everyone else and they wonít answer to anyone.
And if you all donít just back the hell off they will get Suzy husband to sue you. Carol is just another puppet in Suzyís hand she is not any better than the other two.
They are screwing this event up, a couple more years of these people running this event and there wonít be an event.
I for one am sick and tired of the high prices they charge at BBQ on the River and now we all can see why things are so high, thanks David, Suzy & Carol you all are ruining a great event with all of your greed. And David why donít you get a real job and stop living off the hard work of other you are nothing but a welfare case.
Thank You to Hardwood Supporter for starting this post now we can see why we have to pay so much for so little. you have helped to open the eyes to what is going wrong with BBQ on the River.
i hate david wrote:
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Believe me, they use the money to go to plenty of other BBQ events. Boggs is a joke and so is Suzie. Just ask Carol Gault. She is in on it, too. I would love to know why David Boggs get paid a year. That should be public info.
Brother Theodore

Jefferson City, MO

#6 Oct 2, 2012
I hope people start boycotting the BBQ on the River.
event supporter

Nashville, TN

#7 Oct 3, 2012
BBQ is a great event. A couple of weeks after the event concludes, donations to the various charities are made public. Your criticism that the donations are too low is valid in some cases. Two vendors who operate side by side and with an equal number of customers should make similar donations, but don't. A couple of years ago Larry Darrell and Darrell donated about $9000 to their charity while Big Daddy donated $3000 to his. BBQ should do a better job enforcing this. Your criticism that the organization has paid staff is also off base. You cannot run an event of this scale without someone being on top of it all year.

“Cowforce”

Since: Jun 12

Cumquat Farms

#8 Oct 3, 2012
event supporter wrote:
BBQ is a great event. A couple of weeks after the event concludes, donations to the various charities are made public. Your criticism that the donations are too low is valid in some cases. Two vendors who operate side by side and with an equal number of customers should make similar donations, but don't. A couple of years ago Larry Darrell and Darrell donated about $9000 to their charity while Big Daddy donated $3000 to his. BBQ should do a better job enforcing this. Your criticism that the organization has paid staff is also off base. You cannot run an event of this scale without someone being on top of it all year.
You can't run an event like this without someone being paid but why can we not know what he is being paid. It shouldn't be kept secret how much he gets paid from this event. Is it his sole source of income or does he get other revenue? Personally, I think the vendors charge too much for the food even with most of going back to charity because they have to charge what they are told by the BBQ committee. I personally am not going to pay $18.00 for a slab of ribs when I can go to other places after BBQ on the River and get it for free. You are not telling how much they are getting because you are taking out (x) amount for the meat, drinks and etc., so that is not really telling us anything.
Hester

Energy, IL

#9 Oct 3, 2012
Maybe that is all they made, If they don't make much then they can't give much. with the high prices of meat that these cooker have to pay for things it is a wonder that they make any money at all. the point of this thread is the real group that is rakeing in the dough is the the event itself that is if I read this properly.How about the one group down there that make their donation to their own hunting club ask those boy about that.
event supporter wrote:
BBQ is a great event. A couple of weeks after the event concludes, donations to the various charities are made public. Your criticism that the donations are too low is valid in some cases. Two vendors who operate side by side and with an equal number of customers should make similar donations, but don't. A couple of years ago Larry Darrell and Darrell donated about $9000 to their charity while Big Daddy donated $3000 to his. BBQ should do a better job enforcing this. Your criticism that the organization has paid staff is also off base. You cannot run an event of this scale without someone being on top of it all year.
who

Hermitage, TN

#10 Oct 3, 2012
Hester wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe that is all they made, If they don't make much then they can't give much. with the high prices of meat that these cooker have to pay for things it is a wonder that they make any money at all. the point of this thread is the real group that is rakeing in the dough is the the event itself that is if I read this properly.How about the one group down there that make their donation to their own hunting club ask those boy about that.
Which one donates to their own hunting club?

“Cowforce”

Since: Jun 12

Cumquat Farms

#11 Oct 3, 2012
How is a tennis club a non-profit charity? I thought most of these groups that cook or have other goodies for sale are for charity. A church- charity, Oscar Cross Boys and Girls Club- charity, but I just don't see how a tennis club is a charity. If it is, someone please enlighten me how they are considered a charity. I am not saying they aren't but if I was buying from any vendor there, I would want it to be to a charity such as American Red Cross, Spouse Abuse and even Marshall County Humane Society.
Dr Riley Love

Paducah, KY

#12 Oct 3, 2012
It was better when Suzy Dawahare ran it.
Smitty

Carbondale, IL

#13 Oct 3, 2012
She still is in charge she just use Divid Boggs as her mouth piece. And David won't dare stand up to her since she runs the "Not for profit group" and they are the ones that funnel the money into the BBQ stor that keeps David in a job.
Dr Riley Love wrote:
It was better when Suzy Dawahare ran it.
Hardwood Supporter

Carbondale, IL

#14 Oct 4, 2012
If you had someone in charge that knew what they wereoing then there is no need to take all year, this is a crock. far as what teams give to the charity, in some cases the charities don't do the work and the teams have to pay to have the work done, and if the charity don't do the work then they don't deserve the money. I happen to know that there is times when teams lose money in order to give to the charities, so maybe you need to ask the teams if they lost money before you go pointing them out. Give all of the fact davie.
event supporter wrote:
BBQ is a great event. A couple of weeks after the event concludes, donations to the various charities are made public. Your criticism that the donations are too low is valid in some cases. Two vendors who operate side by side and with an equal number of customers should make similar donations, but don't. A couple of years ago Larry Darrell and Darrell donated about $9000 to their charity while Big Daddy donated $3000 to his. BBQ should do a better job enforcing this. Your criticism that the organization has paid staff is also off base. You cannot run an event of this scale without someone being on top of it all year.
Carol

Paducah, KY

#15 Oct 4, 2012
Most of the money goes to there choice of charity after cost is deducted
Mony Mony

Marion, IL

#16 Oct 6, 2012
It goes in Suzy and David's pockets.
Carol wrote:
Most of the money goes to there choice of charity after cost is deducted
Mony Mony

Marion, IL

#17 Oct 8, 2012
I guess no one know what kind of money this event brings in and just how much they spend, Does someone have something to hide?
observation

Hermitage, TN

#18 Oct 8, 2012
Mony Mony wrote:
<quoted text>It goes in Suzy and David's pockets.
My group has donated well over $10,000 in each of the last several years and over $100,000 in all. The entry fees are super low compared to other BBQ events on the various circuits. If you find that a group is under donating then don't patronize them! I agree 10% of the profits is pitiful. David and Suzie work hard year round to organize this event. It doesn't happen overnight.
Hardwood Supporter

Marion, IL

#19 Oct 9, 2012
The officials have thrown the "BULL SHIT" flag on this post. It don't take aall year long to put on an event three time the size of BBQ on the river and it sure as hell don't need a store that is only to keep someone in a job. Memphis the american Royal neither one has a event cordiator that works all year long and those two events attract 4 to 5 times the cookers as well as guest. By the way the Jack Danials don't have a full time event cordinator either.
observation wrote:
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My group has donated well over $10,000 in each of the last several years and over $100,000 in all. The entry fees are super low compared to other BBQ events on the various circuits. If you find that a group is under donating then don't patronize them! I agree 10% of the profits is pitiful. David and Suzie work hard year round to organize this event. It doesn't happen overnight.
2 bits

Paducah, KY

#20 Oct 10, 2012
Hardwood Supporter wrote:
The officials have thrown the "BULL SHIT" flag on this post. It don't take aall year long to put on an event three time the size of BBQ on the river and it sure as hell don't need a store that is only to keep someone in a job. Memphis the american Royal neither one has a event cordiator that works all year long and those two events attract 4 to 5 times the cookers as well as guest. By the way the Jack Danials don't have a full time event cordinator either.<quoted text>
I've done even coordinating a bit, but not here in Paducah, so I don't know how many hoops they have to jump through with codes, licensing, etc... Anyhow, I can see an event that size validating at least one full time and one part time salary. I don't know the BBQ circuit at all, but I know in most events that size, if there isn't a paid staff, what you would generally see is a couple of volunteers who really should be getting paid because they put in the equivalent of a full-time job's effort by the time it's all said and done, and then there's usually an army of other volunteers who help out just the week of the event. If you want to go check into the other events you're mentioning, I'd be really surprised if the staff running the show aren't either putting in that type of effort, OR, they're actually on the clock at a job that is financially supporting the event by letting or having a paid employee work on the event on the company's clock. Lots of large events are promos for related businesses.

If you work for free, great, good for you. If YOU or someone else want to come put in a consistent, year-to-year effort like that Boggs guy does, go for it. Otherwise, why should they work for free?

Now, about the transparency of what percentage each vendor is contributing - I would think a suggested minimum % is probably held to by most of the vendors (again, I don't know the details on this thing), but I agree that there should be 100% transparency in ALL of the finances. There is NO reason there shouldn't be. If the administrators are publicizing all of that, shame on them. Maybe the various non-profits receiving the funds should start posting their numbers (if they don't already). That would put the screws to some folks. Westkentuckystar.com would probably host that type of an info page, since events like this around here are apparently all stuck in some kind of crappy hole with The Sun.

Anyhow, if this deal pisses you off, stop whining about it and DO something. Talk to these folks, keep track of who you talked to, what was said, etc... and then get in touch with reporters from wpsd, the sun, west kentucky news, westkentuckystar, and maybe paducah underground, bella bazooka, and maybe the facebook update update guys. Someone will want to make a story out of it, and sunshine is going to be your best leverage here.

Give the BBQ folks a chance to make it right first though by telling them what you'd like to see happen, and let them know you'll get in touch with the media if you don't see some honest efforts at improvement. Folks can surprise you sometimes - hell, they might even ask you to help them make the changes happen!

(look at that - you got me to write a friggin' book here!)

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