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And you want to talk about wasting taxpayer money: a county worker who sits on a computer all day reading and posting on Topix or updating his Facebook instead of actually doing a job is more of a waster than duplicate services, in my opinion.
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McCracken has 65,000 or so with County & City combine, It would cut all the red tape and division, Nobody said anything bad against any department or agency. McCracken county Sheriff and Paducah Police both does a wonderful job. Were talking about breaking down barriers. Everybody as one. I been all over the United States and lots of the World in Places that already merge, The Pros out weigh the cons. Why do you think Lexington did it, Louisville did it, Owensboro is considering it, Henderson is considering it. Nashville has already done it. I can go on for hours. All these places that all ready have. Our leaving the rest of us behind in better paying jobs, Better Schools, etc.
All the successful mergers you keep talking about are counties where there are lots more people in the city than in the county. In each of these cases the city , in effect, annexed the county. This can't happen in a county where more people live in the county.

You want to merge Paducah and McCracken, you better find a way to get a lot more people in the city before the vote.

Ain't ganna happen!

It's not going to be close.
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By Judy Keen, USA TODAY
Strains on government budgets and demands for more efficiency are stirring new interest in merging cities with counties.
Voters in Memphis and Shelby County, Tenn., will decide in November whether to merge. Pittsburgh and Allegheny County, Pa., are considering forming a single government. The idea has been discussed in Milwaukee and Milwaukee County, Wis.

"The economic situation is the reason a lot of jurisdictions are taking a look at this," says Arnold Fleischmann, head of the political science department at Eastern Michigan University.

Combining operations is complex and controversial — especially if schools are affected — and often is rejected by voters concerned about higher taxes and reductions in services, he says. Cost savings aren't always dramatic, he says, but "spending doesn't grow as rapidly" in merged governments.

Millington, Tenn., Mayor Richard Hodges, who serves on the commission that's writing a proposed charter for a merged Memphis and Shelby County, has qualms. He worries that a unified government would lead to turf fights and tax increases and says cost efficiencies can be found without a merger. He hopes voters won't "see a cure in putting two problems together."

There are about 40 merged city/county governments. The last merger of a big city with its county was in 2003, when Louisville and Jefferson County, Ky., united — after three earlier attempts were rejected by voters.

Since the merger, Mayor Jerry Abramson says, the number of employees is down 22% from the previously separate governments and the elimination of overlapping services and staff saves money. One example: Merging the mayor's staff with the county executive's staff saved $700,000.

He says consolidation is "an opportunity to be more accountable, more representative and more financially responsible."

Mergers are possible in:

• Macon and Bibb County, Ga. Several departments have been consolidated; animal control departments will join forces July 1. Mayor Robert Reichert says the case for a full merger is simple: City and county garbage trucks pick up trash on opposite sides of the same street in some neighborhoods.

The Georgia General Assembly almost endorsed a referendum this year, and Reichert says another effort will begin in January.

• Evansville and Vanderburgh County, Ind. A commission is studying the issue and a proposal might be on the ballot this fall, Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel says. "This is a way of making local government … more effective and efficient, especially if you reduce costs in the process," he says.

• Covington and Alleghany County, Va. A citizens' committee is devising a plan that could go to voters by the end of 2011. Mayor Stephanie Clark says studies have suggested that a merged government could save at least $3 million a year.

The community has debated a merger for years, Clark says, but she thinks the time is right. "Change is difficult," she says, "but this is about money, this is about taxes, this is about sharing our programs."
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These place are all mentioned in the article I gave a link to as those considering it but it is still not as you said, "an explosion of proposed merger." Enough with the hyperbole already. Report some real hard number facts. And, by the way, the reporter whose opinions this piece is, definitely didn't do enough due diligence in fact-checking because 27 is nowhere near about 40. The source I quoted as given the lower figure is a way more reputable source than fluff piece reporter.
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These place are all mentioned in the article I gave a link to as those considering it but it is still not as you said, "an explosion of proposed merger." Enough with the hyperbole already. Report some real hard number facts. And, by the way, the reporter whose opinions this piece is, definitely didn't do enough due diligence in fact-checking because 27 is nowhere near about 40. The source I quoted as given the lower figure is a way more reputable source than fluff piece reporter.
Your article I read a long time ago, It's old news. If you read the whole article it explain why more cities & Towns are considering Merger. Louisville voted it down three times before it pass. Now they are saving money, Cut government waste. I'm not trying to change your mind. Just like you want change mine. Just trying to show you that Merger has a positive side. If you would take time to study the Facts you would see that it's not all bad.
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Your article I read a long time ago, It's old news. If you read the whole article it explain why more cities & Towns are considering Merger. Louisville voted it down three times before it pass. Now they are saving money, Cut government waste. I'm not trying to change your mind. Just like you want change mine. Just trying to show you that Merger has a positive side. If you would take time to study the Facts you would see that it's not all bad.
You are correct. It is not all bad.........If you live in the city. If you live in the county, it is all bad.

And, it's not even all good if you live in the city. Still has a lot of bd aspects for most of the city dwellers!
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You guys are too late. Possum trot merged with Marshall county. Now possum trot has 30,000 people and Paducah has dropped,to 16 th place.

Make as much since as Paducah merging with the county?
people left the city

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People left the city to get away from the city problems.

If the city were a good deal people would move into some of the empty houses that the city took over from residents that the city deemed as not being in compliance with the ordinances.
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Do you want the city coming to your neighborhood next and deciding if you are fit to own your home?

If economic conditions are right there will be plenty of pretty houses and yards to look at. Taking property by force in the city and then asking to move into the county were YOU can pick your NEXT "TARGET" neighborhood for economic development will not be tolerated!
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Unity wrote:
By Judy Keen, USA TODAY
Strains on government budgets and demands for more efficiency are stirring new interest in merging cities with counties.
Voters in Memphis and Shelby County, Tenn., will decide in November whether to merge. Pittsburgh and Allegheny County, Pa., are considering forming a single government. The idea has been discussed in Milwaukee and Milwaukee County, Wis.
"The economic situation is the reason a lot of jurisdictions are taking a look at this," says Arnold Fleischmann, head of the political science department at Eastern Michigan University.
Combining operations is complex and controversial — especially if schools are affected — and often is rejected by voters concerned about higher taxes and reductions in services, he says. Cost savings aren't always dramatic, he says, but "spending doesn't grow as rapidly" in merged governments.
Millington, Tenn., Mayor Richard Hodges, who serves on the commission that's writing a proposed charter for a merged Memphis and Shelby County, has qualms. He worries that a unified government would lead to turf fights and tax increases and says cost efficiencies can be found without a merger. He hopes voters won't "see a cure in putting two problems together."
There are about 40 merged city/county governments. The last merger of a big city with its county was in 2003, when Louisville and Jefferson County, Ky., united — after three earlier attempts were rejected by voters.
Since the merger, Mayor Jerry Abramson says, the number of employees is down 22% from the previously separate governments and the elimination of overlapping services and staff saves money. One example: Merging the mayor's staff with the county executive's staff saved $700,000.
He says consolidation is "an opportunity to be more accountable, more representative and more financially responsible."
Mergers are possible in:
• Macon and Bibb County, Ga. Several departments have been consolidated; animal control departments will join forces July 1. Mayor Robert Reichert says the case for a full merger is simple: City and county garbage trucks pick up trash on opposite sides of the same street in some neighborhoods.
The Georgia General Assembly almost endorsed a referendum this year, and Reichert says another effort will begin in January.
• Evansville and Vanderburgh County, Ind. A commission is studying the issue and a proposal might be on the ballot this fall, Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel says. "This is a way of making local government … more effective and efficient, especially if you reduce costs in the process," he says.
• Covington and Alleghany County, Va. A citizens' committee is devising a plan that could go to voters by the end of 2011. Mayor Stephanie Clark says studies have suggested that a merged government could save at least $3 million a year.
The community has debated a merger for years, Clark says, but she thinks the time is right. "Change is difficult," she says, "but this is about money, this is about taxes, this is about sharing our programs."
your a f_ing whacko. Why u want this? There is no proof it will create one job. Its a joke a lie a scam to suck $ from the county folks to finance a dead paducah city.
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Paducah, work on your own problems. Get your own ship in order. Quit taxing your people till they have to leave. Then, and only then can you bring something to the table.
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Aug 26, 2012
 
Actually Paducah population has went up slightly from 2010 to 2011.

People QuickFacts Paducah Kentucky
Population, 2011 estimate 25,135 4,369,356
Population, 2010 (April 1) estimates base 25,024 4,339,362
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Actually Paducah population has went up slightly from 2010 to 2011.
People QuickFacts Paducah Kentucky
Population, 2011 estimate 25,135 4,369,356
Population, 2010 (April 1) estimates base 25,024 4,339,362
Just because they increased the size of the jail!
Kidding.
But they took census in 2010. Wonder who made up the 2011 numbers?
But then again, do they count the inmates? They just added a 150 person halfway house on Adams street. Do these people now count in the city population?
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<quoted text>Just because they increased the size of the jail!
Kidding.
But they took census in 2010. Wonder who made up the 2011 numbers?
But then again, do they count the inmates? They just added a 150 person halfway house on Adams street. Do these people now count in the city population?
As far as I know they count everyone. Every 10 years the census comes out, But every year they keep track of people moving in or out. Looks like it would be hard to get it 100% accurate.
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Because big Corporation like Saturn for example, that pays good wages won't locate in an area less than 50,000. If we merge it would show us on the census count as 65,000, which would make us Candidate for Bigger Tax break from the state. Right now for example if you live in a certain part of the county like Reidland, you pay higher property tax than people in Heath. With Merger everyone would be on the same playing field. People paying the highest property tax, Their cost would be lower some to equal Heath, Lone Oak etc.
so if we manipulate the population count by counting everyone as one city (rather than a city and a county)the people from saturn will think we have more people and we will trick them into locating in our area. That's a brilliant political plan, I hope the people at saturn are stoopid enough to fall for it.

or maybe big corporations aren't as stoopid as big governments. what's the real reason for pushing the merger...more government control, bigger tax base
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Wasn't the guy that bought the executive inn investigated for criminal charges (based on an accounting error)by our local government who didn't like how he did things. Wasn't this done while they were trying to negotiate with him.

This sounds like Dirty Paducah Politics.

this crap keeps investor far away from Paducah and we should keep Paducah out of the county.
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so if we manipulate the population count by counting everyone as one city (rather than a city and a county)the people from saturn will think we have more people and we will trick them into locating in our area. That's a brilliant political plan, I hope the people at saturn are stoopid enough to fall for it.
or maybe big corporations aren't as stoopid as big governments. what's the real reason for pushing the merger...more government control, bigger tax base
Saturn is out of business. Has been for years. But, even they would not have fallen for this!
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As far as I know they count everyone. Every 10 years the census comes out, But every year they keep track of people moving in or out. Looks like it would be hard to get it 100% accurate.
For the love of God, don't tell the city that! They will arrest all us county people and tell Saturn that their population is now 65,000.
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so if we manipulate the population count by counting everyone as one city (rather than a city and a county)the people from saturn will think we have more people and we will trick them into locating in our area. That's a brilliant political plan, I hope the people at saturn are stoopid enough to fall for it.
or maybe big corporations aren't as stoopid as big governments. what's the real reason for pushing the merger...more government control, bigger tax base
So true brother. Do they think corporations are so stupid to fall for a trick like that? The trick will be played on the county folks to fund what ever crazy sh!t the city thinks up...starving artists, kick the people out of tent city at the beginning of winter or whatever else the sobs can think of. This is stupid. Vote NO.
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<quoted text>So true brother. Do they think corporations are so stupid to fall for a trick like that? The trick will be played on the county folks to fund what ever crazy sh!t the city thinks up...starving artists, kick the people out of tent city at the beginning of winter or whatever else the sobs can think of. This is stupid. Vote NO.
Your comment was about dumb as your username. When you get your Car title, You have to go to the Court House which is located in Paducah. So if you drive a Car, You should stop if you hate Paducah so much. Paducah is the Heart of McCracken County. Regardless if your for Merger or Not, McCracken Can not survive without Paducah.

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