We need homosexual marriage in KY!
Sins

Brentwood, TN

#42 Sep 19, 2012
"In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from evil brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us." 2 Thessalonians 3:6

"I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people." Romans 16:17-18

"Do not be misled:'Bad company corrupts good character.' Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God-I say this to your shame." 1 Corinthians 15:33-34

My friend this is not judging people. This is discernment. We can choose not to agree with others lifestyle and not to be around them. As the Bible says....we will become corrupted as well if we do.
amazed

Belvidere, IL

#43 Sep 20, 2012
Omg wrote:
<quoted text>to be supportive of gays and promote prayer in the same paragraph is awful! God does not agree or accept homosexuality! He tells us so in the bible! It is not right. It is not what he made us for! You are NOT born gay either! So sick of hearing that too. Its a sin just like murder is a sin. You cant become a murderer and go around killing ppl just because its the way you believe u are!
. Omg is a euphemism for Oh My God . There is no reason to use the Lord's name here and one of the ten commandments is thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. If you are using it for obama must go, then carry on Pilgrim.
You asked

Paducah, KY

#44 Sep 20, 2012
Sins wrote:
You people are getting this all wrong. The Bible tells us not to covet our neighbors wife, not to lie, but some of us do. The key here is forgiveness. When you are a homosexual you cannot truly seek forgiveness because seeking forgiveness is an act which requires repenting and turning away from that sin. Jesus died for our sins. Past, present, and future. No, God does not find divorce acceptable just as He does not find lying, premarital sex, murder, or hatred acceptable, but the point is He forgives us of our sins if we ask. We can’t just ask for forgiveness and continue to sin and ask for forgiveness and continue to sin. It doesn’t work like that. True forgiveness comes from turning away from sin and not repeating it. There is no such thing as an adulterous marriage and that term is found nowhere in the Bible. Even when people get divorced for the wrong reasons they can learn from their sin and repent and remarry making sure not to make the same mistake twice. Repentance is more than just feeling sorry for sinning, it is an act. You must make changes in the future to seek forgiveness and God is a forgiving God. With that being said, how does a homosexual seek forgiveness? They do not. They may believe in God, but they continue to do the same sin, day in and day out. That is not seeking TRUE forgiveness nor is that turning away from sins. We are all humans, and we ALL fall short one way or another. No sin is greater than another in God’s eyes. Nobody is born “gay.” God created Adam and made Eve because He saw man needed a partner. That partner is a woman. And they marry. God didn’t make a man for Adam to partner with. So if one is gay, asks for forgiveness, and then turns away, then true repentance has been done and they are forgiven, just as every other sinner.
Romans 1:27-32 states,“In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do the very things but also approve of those who practice them.”
Every sin is forgiven as long as you turn away from your sins. People love to quote Scripture when it is fitting for their views or lifestyle.
But a divorced person who has remarried is committing adultry. Unless they divorce the second marriage, and then repent, they have not "turned away from sin" and therefore are no better than the gay. And yes there is an adulterous marriage. It says it so in several sections of the bible. Several of them are quoted here.

Some churches accepting divorce is a very recent thing. The bible didn't change, the churches changed. Well some of them did. Many churches still will not marry a divorced person.

That's the good thing about the bible. If it doesn't say what you want it to say you can just ignor the parts you don't like.

A divorced and remarried person is Living in as much sin as a openly gay person is.
Anonymous

Utica, KY

#45 Sep 20, 2012
WHY? why are some of you so retarded to waiste your time and energy worrying about what other people do? thats whats really sad. I am not gay. but if you are ...awesome. if you want to get married to someone you truly love ...great. To the hating bible thumpers out there, read a little deeper its not your place to judge. i grew up in church and catholic school was tested blah blah ...i know the bible myself. Your job as a christian is to make it known to sinners thier sins. What they decide to do is thiers. Hating is not what god intended. besides we're all going to hell anyway, especially to those of you who say "ive read the bible". great you read it! now go back and really read it. the bible is not a history book or anything to be taken literally. seriously, yes, but you must know what its actually saying. but anyway i just figured id shine a little more mature and unbiased light on the subject. gay people we hetereos (even tho we like to think we know) dont know whats right or wrong and you know you dont really either. its between you and god to figure out not the people who dont understand what your going through .....straight people....what if your son or daughter one day said "mom/dad can i talk to you" and lays it on ya. great point to the person who mentioned about divorce being just as wrong as homosexual acts....it is ya know ...if you read the bible ....right is right and wrong is wrong ....no excuses for me or you ...might as well admit it now ...unless we all change we are going to hell.
Anonymous

Utica, KY

#46 Sep 20, 2012
oh fwi straight anal sex oral sex and masterbation....just as bad as a homosexual act. sex without the intent to procreate.
Local Pastor

Metropolis, IL

#47 Sep 20, 2012
God does accept divorce in very few circumstances. A couple of them are abuse by a partner (mental or physical), an affair by a partner (being unfaithful). There are means where divorce is okay in God's eyes. Of course it wasn't designed this way, but we were born into a world of sin. We have to accept the fact that God said to repent or perish... God created a family to be one man...one woman.
Sins

Brentwood, TN

#48 Sep 20, 2012
You asked wrote:
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But a divorced person who has remarried is committing adultry. Unless they divorce the second marriage, and then repent, they have not "turned away from sin" and therefore are no better than the gay. And yes there is an adulterous marriage. It says it so in several sections of the bible. Several of them are quoted here.
Some churches accepting divorce is a very recent thing. The bible didn't change, the churches changed. Well some of them did. Many churches still will not marry a divorced person.
That's the good thing about the bible. If it doesn't say what you want it to say you can just ignor the parts you don't like.
A divorced and remarried person is Living in as much sin as a openly gay person is.
First of all, you have a serious obsession with divorce. Second, the term "adulterous marriage" is NOT found in the Bible. Adultery is but not "adulterous marriage." That would be an interpretation of someone. Third, seriously, your missing the entire point. You views are entirely different than mine and you trying to prove a point is not changing the fact. A divorced person does not continue to live in sin, just as a murderer doesn't, just as a person who lusts who doesn't gouge out their eye. God wants marriage to be taken very seriously. Forgiveness and repenting means your not going to divorce again. You don't think God is going to forgive you? Really? You don't think if someone got a divorce, by mistake, for the biblical reasons, or for the wrong reasons that that person is tarnished forever? I serve a forgiving and just God. And He knows our hearts. He isn't going to abandon us because we sin when we truly ask for forgiveness and strive to do what He commands us to do.
You asked

Paducah, KY

#49 Sep 20, 2012
Sins wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, you have a serious obsession with divorce. Second, the term "adulterous marriage" is NOT found in the Bible. Adultery is but not "adulterous marriage." That would be an interpretation of someone. Third, seriously, your missing the entire point. You views are entirely different than mine and you trying to prove a point is not changing the fact. A divorced person does not continue to live in sin, just as a murderer doesn't, just as a person who lusts who doesn't gouge out their eye. God wants marriage to be taken very seriously. Forgiveness and repenting means your not going to divorce again. You don't think God is going to forgive you? Really? You don't think if someone got a divorce, by mistake, for the biblical reasons, or for the wrong reasons that that person is tarnished forever? I serve a forgiving and just God. And He knows our hearts. He isn't going to abandon us because we sin when we truly ask for forgiveness and strive to do what He commands us to do.
Actually I have an obsession with hypocrisy.

Getting a divorce for any reason is not adultry. Getting remarried is. Hard to get remarried by accident. Every time you have sex with a divorced person, you commit adultry.

1 Corinthians 7: 10-11 Read it if u have a Bible
9 "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery."

You have a reading disorder?
You asked

Paducah, KY

#50 Sep 20, 2012
Local Pastor wrote:
God does accept divorce in very few circumstances. A couple of them are abuse by a partner (mental or physical), an affair by a partner (being unfaithful). There are means where divorce is okay in God's eyes. Of course it wasn't designed this way, but we were born into a world of sin. We have to accept the fact that God said to repent or perish... God created a family to be one man...one woman.
Where does it say that divorce is ok for abuse? It should say that, but it does not. It does say it is ok in case of adultry, but you guys make up other reasons to fit your lifestyle. I personally like the lusting eyes thing. Or the catholic idea that if you want a divorce, you were really never married in the first place.

The bible also says adulterers should be stoned, but you don't do that. But, you don't like gays, so that passage, and that one alone, really means what it says. Hypocrites.
Jill

Mayfield, KY

#51 Sep 20, 2012
Omg wrote:
<quoted text>to be supportive of gays and promote prayer in the same paragraph is awful! God does not agree or accept homosexuality! He tells us so in the bible! It is not right. It is not what he made us for! You are NOT born gay either! So sick of hearing that too. Its a sin just like murder is a sin. You cant become a murderer and go around killing ppl just because its the way you believe u are!
That is for God to decide, not you! He also tells us, in the Bible, to not gossip or judge others, so I guess you will be going to Hell.
HD straggler

Paducah, KY

#52 Sep 21, 2012
Flamboyant wrote:
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In my experience, its typically the gay bashers or "haters" who are the ones wishing they could be poking around their closets spreading diseases. Did ur wife leave for a sec? let me guess shes at work and ur online searching for gay topics to get u off, because ur so ugly u cant pick anyone up? ;)Its dumb sh!ts like u that makes everyone else think people in Kentucky are inbred.
You don't make your point very well when you defend against a stereotype by using another stereotype at the end of your argument.
8675309asr

White Plains, KY

#53 Sep 21, 2012
WOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoever just wrote this is ignorant. Homosexuality is wrong. Period. No excuses, no justifications, no exceptions, it is wrong. God clearly states that in His Word. And to actually compare a divorced person to a homosexual is beyond ignorant.
You are absolutely correct that their are sinners in church. That is what church is for, but the POINT IS these sinners TURN AWAY FROM THEIR SIN. They may have gotten a divorce, asked for forgiveness, remarried, and are committed to never make that mistake again. A homosexual does NOT TURN FROM THEIR WAYS. THEY CONTINUE TO SIN.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. HELLO? What planet did you fall off of?
The way I understand the Bible all sin is equal.in God's view. Divorce appears to be a sin to some people and homosexual seems to be a sin to some.people. Depending on your interpretation of the bible both are sins in God's eyes. The bible is subject to different interpretation. Anybody who claims they know everything about the bible.and their view is the only correct one is the ignorant one. To me that is one of the reasons the bible is such an amazing book. It can speak to different people in different situations. There are several verses that have a different meaning to me know than they did 40 years ago. As far as gay marriage. I think they should be allowed to marry. What difference does it make? It is such a small.percentage of the population it really is a non issue. Are you claiming homosexual marriage may hurt the family? Well, with a divorce rate 50% among us heterosexuals I don't think we havs any room to talk as we have already damaged the family with consequences that may not be seen for years. Most churches these days are no more than social clubs. They can get together and look over each others sins but put down thw sinners who they believe are not righteous enough for their little social club. Religion has caused so much pain and division in this world. I don't think the Lord meant it to be that way.
Ted

Paducah, KY

#54 Oct 6, 2012
8675309asr wrote:
<quoted text>The way I understand the Bible all sin is equal.in God's view. Divorce appears to be a sin to some people and homosexual seems to be a sin to some.people. Depending on your interpretation of the bible both are sins in God's eyes. The bible is subject to different interpretation. Anybody who claims they know everything about the bible.and their view is the only correct one is the ignorant one. To me that is one of the reasons the bible is such an amazing book. It can speak to different people in different situations. There are several verses that have a different meaning to me know than they did 40 years ago. As far as gay marriage. I think they should be allowed to marry. What difference does it make? It is such a small.percentage of the population it really is a non issue. Are you claiming homosexual marriage may hurt the family? Well, with a divorce rate 50% among us heterosexuals I don't think we havs any room to talk as we have already damaged the family with consequences that may not be seen for years. Most churches these days are no more than social clubs. They can get together and look over each others sins but put down thw sinners who they believe are not righteous enough for their little social club. Religion has caused so much pain and division in this world. I don't think the Lord meant it to be that way.
Kinda my point, but I think it is a little less open to interpretation. The bible seems pretty clear to me about homosexuality. The word "abomination" is hardly in the grey area. But it is just as clear about divorse and remarriage. It's pretty clear about a lot of things. You say " interpretation"', I say "choosing what you wish it said". Take a lot of control to listen to some woman that has been divorced and remarried, calling a gay a sinner.

I do agree with you about the pain and division caused by religion. Organized religion is the worst thing to have ever happened to the human race. It was currupted by hypocrites before the ink was dry on the first book.
Happy Divorced and Single

Murfreesboro, TN

#55 Oct 7, 2012
You asked wrote:
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Where does it say that divorce is ok for abuse? It should say that, but it does not. It does say it is ok in case of adultry, but you guys make up other reasons to fit your lifestyle. I personally like the lusting eyes thing. Or the catholic idea that if you want a divorce, you were really never married in the first place.
The bible also says adulterers should be stoned, but you don't do that. But, you don't like gays, so that passage, and that one alone, really means what it says. Hypocrites.
It does not say that ... it does say that if you get divorced for any reason other than adultery, that you are to remain single. So, that includes abuse, or flat-out not liking your husband or wife. Just stay single
You asked

Paducah, KY

#56 Oct 7, 2012
Happy Divorced and Single wrote:
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It does not say that ... it does say that if you get divorced for any reason other than adultery, that you are to remain single. So, that includes abuse, or flat-out not liking your husband or wife. Just stay single
Yas, you are correct. But we covered that several posts ago. According to the bible, you can get divorsed for any reason. But you can not remarry, Or have sex, for that matter for the rest of your life. Having sex, married or not, after divorse is adultery. Most people remarry and are thus adulterers according to the bible.

Makes no difference to me either way, until you then start calling other people sinners. My original point is that a church, or church member, that accepts remarried divorcees, has no grounds for condemning or excluding gays.
Happy Divorced and Single

Murfreesboro, TN

#57 Oct 8, 2012
I know it was already said ... I was responding to the other person. Actually, it is not adultery that prevents remarriage; it is fornication. According to the Bible, looking lustfully at another while married is adultery, and is not grounds for remarriage if divorce occurs. Only having sex with another while married is grounds for remarriage, biblically. Different Greek words.

"And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[fn] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery." Matthew 19:9

The adultery occurs after the remarriage occurs, if for any reason other than fornication. The fornication (sexual immorality) is what allows the remarriage.

I finally decided to leave an abusive marriage, and was okay with not ever being married again. He admitted after I told him I was leaving that he had been sleeping with his secretary and our babysitter, as I had previously accused him of. But, I would have survived otherwise.
Happy Divorced and Single

Murfreesboro, TN

#58 Oct 8, 2012
But, for the record, the members of a church do not get to decide who joins the church. Church is not in a building. The Bible says the Lord added those that were saved to the church daily (Acts 2, I think, going off memory). Men don't add people to the church. So, to say that churches should allow homosexuals to be members if they are going to let unscripturally divorced and remarried people join, is moot. Jesus decides who is added.
You asked

Paducah, KY

#59 Oct 8, 2012
Happy Divorced and Single wrote:
But, for the record, the members of a church do not get to decide who joins the church. Church is not in a building. The Bible says the Lord added those that were saved to the church daily (Acts 2, I think, going off memory). Men don't add people to the church. So, to say that churches should allow homosexuals to be members if they are going to let unscripturally divorced and remarried people join, is moot. Jesus decides who is added.
Finally, a Christian who can read. Most church goers will argue forever that it really doesn't say that. Most people make us excuses for their divorse so they can feel better about what they were going to do anyway. The " word of God" apparently is just suggestion to most.people. Easy to be a Christian when you get to make up your own "word of god". I congratulate you on your Ability to understand what you read.

Most of the local preachers will even perform the ceremony. Even they make up their own rules.

Now, I don't care if gays are admitted into the church or divorsees either. Just erks me when one sinner bad mouths a different kind of sinner..
Happy Divorced and Single

Murfreesboro, TN

#60 Oct 8, 2012
I don't disagree ... don't judge people who sin differently than you. I've found that I'm a much happier person when I just let God do the judging.

Its not that I can read, its that I do read. Most people can read, but would rather take someone's word for it. The Bible is actually a very interesting piece of work, and easy to understand if you start with a blank slate, clear of manmade ideas. God is not the author of confusion (1 Cor 14:33); let the ignorant be ignorant (1 Cor 14:38).
Jason Crockett

Paducah, KY

#61 Oct 8, 2012
Jason Crockett is running for Ky state rep. He is for gay marriage and will do what ever it takes to see this is the way of life in Kentucky. He wans his partner and him be able too marry.

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