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Dec 13, 2012
 

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Well, well, well,,,, after the Hostess/Union thread drama
last month, we thanked the Unions for taking away our cakes and most importantly, the jobs.
After receiving various opinions on both sides, I used the prime example of why Auto workers lost their jobs. Going on strike because $35/hr wasnt enough money to put a lightbulb in a car on a assembly line. So now, Michigan (where Detroit is), for you haters, has voted to be a right to work state now.
Wow, how ironic huh?
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Dec 14, 2012
 
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Do you enjoy having weekends? How about holidays off? Overtime? Benefits? Pension? Safe working conditions? If you answered yes to any of these you can thank the unions. Without unions stepping up years ago none of this would be possible. As for states going right to work you are basically hiring anyone off the streets and letting them do the sort of work that only qualified professionals should be doing. Union trades are having a hard enough time competing with non union labor, and what the general public doesn't see is that a non union contractor will only underbid a union contractor by about 3-5% but turns around and pays his workers nickels and dimes. You bash up for making a decent wage but we spend more years in school than you would for two degrees in college. Right to work is just another way to kill the middle class and the middle class is what keeps the country running.
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Dec 14, 2012
 
Leon91 wrote:
Well, well, well,,,, after the Hostess/Union thread drama
last month, we thanked the Unions for taking away our cakes and most importantly, the jobs.
After receiving various opinions on both sides, I used the prime example of why Auto workers lost their jobs. Going on strike because $35/hr wasnt enough money to put a lightbulb in a car on a assembly line. So now, Michigan (where Detroit is), for you haters, has voted to be a right to work state now.
Wow, how ironic huh?
When you vote for right to work you are voting for right to work for less so the company executives can get their huge bonus.

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Dec 14, 2012
 
Unions and regulations are the last firewall before we all become slaves to big business...
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#6
Dec 14, 2012
 
I agree if it wasn't for unions things would b bad
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#7
Dec 14, 2012
 
hey leon91....how bout you post your address for some 'foxnews' justice?!?!!?
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#8
Dec 14, 2012
 
Ive watched over 15 union workers stand on the sidelines while waiting for a "forklift operator" to come unload the pallets of material they were all waiting for to start there job, all the while the forklift was sitting right there by the waiting truckload of of pallets. The "forklift operator was on his lunchbream and wouldnt return for an hour. Geez you would think "somebody would unload that truck!!!! Thats what kills the unions. Laziness !!!
No more free loading

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#9
Dec 14, 2012
 
If you are smart enough to form a union, shouldn't you be smart enough to form your own contracting business. You could even start your own factory.

Some factories prefer to employ workers based on their individual performance. These factories stay in the USA.

No more free loading, you have to be competitive to work. If you can't be competitive someone else in another country who is more competitive will be glad to do your job more efficiently.
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How about if everyone in the country joins one big union and we all go on strike until we get $35 an hour plus benefits. And we make it a law that everyone must join the union. It would be a liberal dream society!
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#11
Dec 14, 2012
 
Unions may have had there place somewhere in time but that time is over, you must competiivly produce something and thats just not gonna happen as long as your setting on your azz waiting on an electrician to come install a light bulb because thats not in your job description !!! Geez seen it happen

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Dec 15, 2012
 
Where is this union that you can join to wait around on someone to change a light bulb? Or wait for someone to run a fork lift? I'm union and at my job if we did something like that, first we'd get our ass chewed for not doing our job, then the next time we'd be shown the door! Unions are a good thing unless you want to work in a sweat shop.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
Saul Goodman wrote:
Where is this union that you can join to wait around on someone to change a light bulb? Or wait for someone to run a fork lift? I'm union and at my job if we did something like that, first we'd get our ass chewed for not doing our job, then the next time we'd be shown the door! Unions are a good thing unless you want to work in a sweat shop.
They do it all the time. It's to ensure every man has a job. You don't do the job of another trade. I've been on job sites where plumbers won't even move electrical cords. They will wait for an electrician to come move it. Or instead of getting in a backhoe and moving it if its in the way, they'll stand around and wait for the union operator to show up and move it. It happens all the time.

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Dec 15, 2012
 
I can understand it happening at a construction sight. I've worked non union in construction and I definitely wouldnt opperate someone else's equipment if they weren't around, or haven't given me permission. Where I work, we're union, but if management tells us to do something and we refuse, unless it's a safety issue, then we can be fired. I've also worked non union in other fields where my wages were cut, even though everyone was busting ass to get things done. Guess who's pay didn't take a cut?? The management! Unions look out for you, I've worked both ways, union is definitely better.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
Saul Goodman wrote:
I can understand it happening at a construction sight. I've worked non union in construction and I definitely wouldnt opperate someone else's equipment if they weren't around, or haven't given me permission. Where I work, we're union, but if management tells us to do something and we refuse, unless it's a safety issue, then we can be fired. I've also worked non union in other fields where my wages were cut, even though everyone was busting ass to get things done. Guess who's pay didn't take a cut?? The management! Unions look out for you, I've worked both ways, union is definitely better.
Oh no, this equipment is owned by the same company that employs both the plumbers and the operators! That's the problem! I could understand hopping on a piece of equipment owned by a other outfit. You just don't do that. But this is an entirely different situation. Sorry. Guess I should have been a little more specific.
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#16
Dec 15, 2012
 
I worked for railroad and was union.If we changed a light buld or worked on anything eletrical we would get in trouble for doing a eletricians job.This is wrong .But this is how unions work.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
foreman wrote:
I worked for railroad and was union.If we changed a light buld or worked on anything eletrical we would get in trouble for doing a eletricians job.This is wrong .But this is how unions work.
This is how non-union jobs work. 8/hr...long hours...no benefits... Little to no job security.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
foreman wrote:
I worked for railroad and was union.If we changed a light buld or worked on anything eletrical we would get in trouble for doing a eletricians job.This is wrong .But this is how unions work.
Their is a reason for that, because more than likely you're a unskilled craft that could get hurt or killed doing electrical work because your untrained! Now changing a light bulb is one thing but working on control circuits and etc when your not a electrician is like playing Russian roulette. And I also love how everyone thinks they can put two wires together or change a light bulb thinks they're a electrician...
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#19
Dec 15, 2012
 
All the Union workers I know just want to fish and draw unemployment checks. Lazy bastard! Study a bit of economics for a while before you post something stupid here please.
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#20
Dec 15, 2012
 
If you develop a valuable in-demand skill, you don't need union protection.

Today's workers must be well trained and always learning and improving their skills to compete for the best jobs.

Unions used to be worth while, but went too far with workers rights and now they are typically a burden to society.

If you do a job that lots of other people can do with minimal training, you might want to form a union to try to protect your job. Or you could improve your skills by learning the newest technology related to your job.

The people that must sell the product or service that you help provide must compete also.

The new unions (if any) should be optional (right to work)and should focus on improving the skills and efficiency of the workers.

what if you had a choice of 2 different unions or no union and one of the unions was focused on improving the skills and efficiency of its members, what if only the best were allowed to join.

Forced Union Membership must STOP it's sending jobs overseas.

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