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Hmmmm

Arnold, MO

#1 Feb 15, 2013
http://www.scribd.com/doc/125664712/Ott-Lawsu...

Why have there been no statements regarding this matter in the Leader? Not a word from the Mayor of Arnold, the Arnold City Administrator or the Arnold City Attorney, but they have smeared Ken and Doris' name all over the papers. What is different, this has been going on for over a year.
Letusnamenames

United States

#2 Feb 15, 2013
Maybe because it is current litigation and this should not even have been posted in a public forum.

Is there a council person who violated the sunshine laws by posting this? I think so.
Really

Arnold, MO

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Who said it should not have been posted in a public forum? What council person do you think violated a Shunshine Law by shining the light on this information? Isn't the Sunshine Law the one that insures things are open to the public? I think anyone can walk into the court building and ask the clerk for what is commonly called public information. Not like in Arnold where you have to get the Attorney General involved to get a simple visitor log!
Ummmmm

Fenton, MO

#5 Feb 15, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
Maybe because it is current litigation and this should not even have been posted in a public forum.
Is there a council person who violated the sunshine laws by posting this? I think so.
It is a Plaintiff's Petition, anyone can obtain a copy, just ask the Plaintiff's Attorney, or get the file from the Court Clerk. It is an open record.....it is not sealed. No violation of anything.~S
What is WRONG with you

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Feb 15, 2013
Why? Why, why, why would you post this?
1. While it is true it is a legal document that is public information what gives you the right to be the one to decide everyone needs to see it?
2. It is stuff like that this that seriously makes me ashamed to be a resident of Arnold.
Good lord, this is so ridiculous. Who the heck ARE you people?!?!
Ummmmm

Fenton, MO

#7 Feb 15, 2013
What is WRONG with you wrote:
Why? Why, why, why would you post this?
1. While it is true it is a legal document that is public information what gives you the right to be the one to decide everyone needs to see it?
2. It is stuff like that this that seriously makes me ashamed to be a resident of Arnold.
Good lord, this is so ridiculous. Who the heck ARE you people?!?!
Information just wants to be free......there are those that want to play hardball, they can bring it. Expect us.
Hmmmm

Arnold, MO

#8 Feb 15, 2013
What is WRONG with you wrote:
Why? Why, why, why would you post this?
1. While it is true it is a legal document that is public information what gives you the right to be the one to decide everyone needs to see it?
2. It is stuff like that this that seriously makes me ashamed to be a resident of Arnold.
Good lord, this is so ridiculous. Who the heck ARE you people?!?!
Why not? Why would Sweeney, Shockey and Counts put all the stuff they have over the last few months into the newspaper? They need to reevaluate their motives. If they can't stand the heat they need to get out of the kitchen! Ultimately the Mayor is responsible for allowing all of this to have gone on unfettered. The ball is in his court and he can't hit a return volley.
Anonymous

Germany

#9 Feb 15, 2013
Is the police chief afraid of getting fired over his incompetence? Is this a pre-emptive complaint against the council members that may find him guilty of these serious allegations of retaliation? So any move they may make is considered retaliation against him? While conniving and crooked, it seems a very smart move on his part. We can hope it fails, though, if the allegations are found to have merit. Let justice be served, wherever it lies.
They Just Wanna

Arnold, MO

#10 Feb 15, 2013
Girls just wanna have fu-un.
Why Oh Why

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Feb 15, 2013
What is WRONG with you wrote:
Why? Why, why, why would you post this?
1. While it is true it is a legal document that is public information what gives you the right to be the one to decide everyone needs to see it?
2. It is stuff like that this that seriously makes me ashamed to be a resident of Arnold.
Good lord, this is so ridiculous. Who the heck ARE you people?!?!
So why should Bob Shockey be granted more discretion over a complaint which the MCHR HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIATED as having merit and issued Notice to Sue, however, it is somehow alright to attempt to publicly lynch Ken and Doris over a complaint which has already been kicked out by the MCHR once and a complaint which alleges something which the Commission does not even have authority over?

Before you cry, think about this and your own actions, and remember how it feels. Remember that there are real repercussions for those actions you take to demonize others in the name of politics just so you can ensure control of your fiefdom, your job, and/or line your own pockets with developer cash, and that when unelected City Employees decide to play politics, they risk getting burned. This has gone on way too long, and Arnold is a laughing stock. They talk about us in the halls of Jefferson City. No one knows exactly what to do.

Bob Sweeney is the core of every one of these past and present events. He is the one commonality. Sweeney, Boone, and Shockey cannot use their status of "employment" as both a sword and a shield. Either they play ball or they watch from the stands, and they have decided to take the Pitcher's mound. They have brought these issues upon themselves, and when they blow back as others do the same to them, just remember that they willingly chose to become involved in this train crash.
Letusnamenames

United States

#12 Feb 15, 2013
And part of why Arnold is a laughing stock is because of Doris' antics. She isn't Ms. Innocent. She contributed to the problems.

Sounds like your post is labelled with a lot of threats. To bad that is how you have to handle things rather than being diplomatic. I would like to have a Mayor that can be diplomatic and Doris has just shown she can't be. She threatens people which is wrong.
Come on

Imperial, MO

#13 Feb 15, 2013
So, let me get this right.... It's ok for Sweeney to blast folks for not paying their taxes on time but its not ok to post a law suit against the City? I'm confused... I hope his girl wins big.
Bulletin

Arnold, MO

#14 Feb 15, 2013
There goes CC again, everybody is making threats if you ask her. She is just like Chicken Little the sky is falling...la la la la we can't hear you.
Letusnamenames

United States

#15 Feb 15, 2013
Not when it involves personnel matters against the city and considering that this is a trial by jury you have now tainted he potential jury pool. Way to go!
Letusnamenames

United States

#16 Feb 15, 2013
That's the problem, Doris does things and never thinks of the repercussions to others, in this case the city.
Bulletin

Arnold, MO

#17 Feb 15, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
That's the problem, Doris does things and never thinks of the repercussions to others, in this case the city.
Look if all you are going to post is stupid crap, just restrain yourself can you? I know the answer is probably no, but if you have nothing to add to the discussion other than your whiney BS, just stop. Can you answer the question or offer any intelligent insight? Now back to the subject of this thread:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/125664712/Ott-Lawsu ...

Why have there been no statements regarding this matter in the Leader? Not a word from the Mayor of Arnold, the Arnold City Administrator or the Arnold City Attorney, but they have smeared Ken and Doris' name all over the papers. What is different, this has been going on for over a year.
Letusnamenames

United States

#18 Feb 15, 2013
And Doris has now publically threatened by making the statement if you can't handle it then quit accusing me. Her posting this lawsuit just shows that she is retaliating giving Shockey even more of a case. Her posting this lawsuit was a clear retaliation for Shockey filing a claim against her. Way to go Doris for proving Shockey's claims true. Maybe you should think of the repercussions of your actions before retaliating. Just another reason why Doris shouldn't be Mayor.
Goodnight

Arnold, MO

#19 Feb 15, 2013
Oh Mommie, LUNN/CC thinks someone is threatening her.
Back to the subject:
Why have there been no statements regarding this matter in the Leader? Not a word from the Mayor of Arnold, the Arnold City Administrator or the Arnold City Attorney, but they have smeared Ken and Doris' name all over the papers. What is different, this has been going on for over a year.
Sigh

Arnold, MO

#20 Feb 15, 2013
This is ooooold stuff. Filed in 2011. 1.5 years is an eternity in politics. Give it up already. Mayor Counts is headed for a comfortable win in April. And he should be. Arnold has progressed significantly under his administration, and that is simply all there is to it.
Bulletin

Arnold, MO

#21 Feb 16, 2013
Old stuff? No it is stuff that has been kept under wraps, someone just shook out the rug. Mayor Counts has had this knowledge and didn't demand immediate resignations for this egregious violation, but let someone allegedly call someone a name and all of a sudden it is the Spanish Inquisition. No this is a perfect example of the things that have been going on behind the scenes for many years. I'm most positive that the ghosts of Christmas past are starting to rattle their chains old Scrooge is starting to pay attention. The change is a comin'

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