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#83
Oct 10, 2013
 
Information you can Use wrote:
There is a Facebook page called Jefferson County Missouri Stolen Alerts that allows people to communicate things they're missing due to theft to alert people to be on the lookout.
If you have had items stolen out of your yard or garage....like my lawn mower was....just go looking down Jeffco near Imperial Mainstreet at that so called Flee Market. THEY bought my lawn mower from the thief but since they are not a true pawn shop...they are not required to ask for State ID or keep records.....even though the police found my mower there because the thief told them where he sold it....but I was left with nothing. Go figure.....
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#84
Oct 10, 2013
 
According to the article "Gusmano later confessed to the crimes, police said." and "Winslow then failed to pay for the merchandise. He later confessed to the crime, according to authorities."

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#85
Oct 11, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I think you may be wrong on who iitiated an investigation into these particular theives and how people were caught receiving stolen goods. Bars get shut down all the time and their licenses get revoked for serving minors. This is basically yhe same situation.
According to the Gold Buyer it was the letter. So, if he can prove that the investigation started after that or because that, then someone is at fault.

And the stuff bought was jewelry. That would mean that they were ding electronics and such as they were accused of.
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Don't engage LUNN. I think our efforts are having an effect.
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#87
Oct 11, 2013
 
A_Wise_Man_Once_Said wrote:
Don't engage LUNN. I think our efforts are having an effect.
Not engaging her, just making sure facts are revealed like, that fact that there was no mention of any letter in either of the articles.
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#88
Oct 11, 2013
 
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Confessions? What confessions? do you have insights to information the rest of us are not privileged to? Nowhere have i seen anything that points to confessions on any of their behalves. What part of this was fact what part was opinion and what part was wishful thinking? Lots of presumptions.... Thats what i see.
Also a hearing was scheduled for the council meeting on August 15th and the gold buyer was a no show.

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A_Wise_Man_Once_Said wrote:
Don't engage LUNN. I think our efforts are having an effect.
Nope. Just wishful thinking on your part. Maybe you should act your age for a change. That would be a positive on your part.

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<quoted text>Not engaging her, just making sure facts are revealed like, that fact that there was no mention of any letter in either of the articles.
Yes, there was. It was stated that Ms. Borgelt sent a letter to City hall alleging illegal activity in the article in the Leader. Please reference page 10 "Also, Burgio said in his lawsuit that Borgelt had sent an email to city staff questioning whether illegal activity was happening there". Now go play your semantics game.

And you can choose to not engage me but I will keep posting so everyone can see what liars you are, so not engaging me isn't going to make me go away. You choose not to engage me because every time you do, you lose the debate. Must be sad to be you.
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#91
Oct 11, 2013
 
Seems to me its pretty obvious. Illegal activities were going on. While he may not be charged with anything, if you want me to believe he didn't know about it or have a part, it's not going to happen.
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#92
Oct 11, 2013
 
The investigation into alleged thefts at Target led to the eventual arrest at the gold buying shop. An employee was allegedly quite willing to buy the stolen jewelry during business hours in the business location. No letters involved. Criminal activities performed on site violate licensing guidelines.
Revocation. Except where state statutes require immediate revocation, failure to comply with or any violation of any provision of this article by any licensee under this article the city administrator may suspend, for a period not to exceed thirty (30) days, without prior warning, notice or hearing, any license issued under this chapter during the term of such license, for the failure of any licensee to comply with and provision of this chapter. A licensee may appeal the suspension to the city council and the licensee shall have the right to a full and adequate hearing before the city council upon the matter, giving the affected party at least fifteen (15) days written notice of the hearing. Any party may be represented by counsel, and all parties shall have the opportunity to be heard. After the hearing, if the evidence supports a finding that the licensee has failed to comply with or violated any provisions of this article, the city council shall issue an order to revoke or suspend said license. If the evidence does not support a finding that noncompliance or violations have occurred, no order shall be issued. Such revocation or suspension shall be in addition to any other penalties prescribed in this article. Any party aggrieved by an order of the city council hereunder may appeal said order to the circuit court as provided under chapter 536 RSMo.
Sec. 14-26. Conformance to all laws.permanent link to this piece of content

The license required of merchants, manufacturers, businesses and occupations shall be conditioned on the licensee at all times maintaining his establishment in conformance to all laws, ordinances and regulations of the city, the state, the federal government, and all political subdivisions having supervisory or regulatory jurisdiction over said establishment.

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If the owner didn't know, then his business shouldn't be at fault. And according to him an email was sent. It would be funny if he had that email for his court case. That would make you all liars.
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#94
Oct 11, 2013
 
It would be funny if that email doesn't accuse him of anything and merely questions the intent of the ordinances on the books.

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It would be funny if that email doesn't accuse him of anything and merely questions the intent of the ordinances on the books.
So an email does exist. Now I have to question your credibility because before you said no letter existed. Looks like someone was caught in another lie. Makes it hard to believe what you claim to be in the email now, doesn't it?
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#96
Oct 14, 2013
 
So a business owner isn't responsible for what his employees do at his business, but the same business owner believes Arnold City Government is responsible for what their employees do.

Am I missing something.

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So if an employee at WalMart does something like stealing from another business and selling it to a customer at WalMart, then WalMart should lose their license? Come on.
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So a business owner isn't responsible for what his employees do at his business, but the same business owner believes Arnold City Government is responsible for what their employees do.
Am I missing something.
You are not missing anything. It's the same if a bartender sells alcohol to minors or gets caught selling liquor they didn't buy from an authorized distributor, the business gets their license revoked for criminal activity.

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Oct 14, 2013
 
Rules are Rules wrote:
<quoted text>You are not missing anything. It's the same if a bartender sells alcohol to minors or gets caught selling liquor they didn't buy from an authorized distributor, the business gets their license revoked for criminal activity.
It's not the same. If it is then may I recommend that Arnold investigate all Wal-Mart employees and Target employees for criminal activity and if one employee is guilty then they revoke their business licenses.

And the business license in your situation isn't revoked. It's only their liquor license.
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Oct 14, 2013
 
Does anyone remember this?
It is the first time the City of Arnold has used an ordinance the city council passed in February of 2010. It gives city authorities to revoke a business license if a business causes or maintains a nuisance or permits activities that are determined to be detrimental to the health, safety or welfare of residents.

The City said the Jefferson County Sheriff's Drug Task Force, the DEA and the FBI responded to drug overdoses, prostitution, child pornography, stealing, assault, drug sales, drug manufacturing, rape, burglary and other felonious actions at the hotel at 888 Arnold Commons Drive.

The city said it and the police department worked with Value Place to address the problems, but it was not effective.

The Value Place Hotel can petition the city council for a hearing to reinstate its license within 15 days of this action.

The City of Arnold has called a press conference at 1:00 p.m. Friday to further address the issue.
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Oct 14, 2013
 
Sec. 3-36. Suspension of revocation—Generally.permanent link to this piece of content

The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance, suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee or his employees or agents shall have been shown to be guilty of, to have violated, or to be involved in, any of the following:

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An offense resulting in a conviction involving the use of force or violence upon the person of another in the operation of the business of licensee;
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A conviction of a crime involving a felony by licensee or any of the officers or the managing officer of licensee;
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Any false, misleading or fraudulent statement of fact in the license application for the licensee or in any other document required by the city in conjunction therewith;
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Violation of any of the provisions of this chapter or any of the laws of this city;
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Violation of the laws of the federal or state government, or any rule or regulation pertaining to the sale and licensing of intoxicating liquors;
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Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood;
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Conduct by the officers, employees, or managing officers of the licensee such as public drunkenness when working or while on the premises, indecent exposure when working or when on the premises or other conduct which shows improper conduct by an individual who is licensed pursuant to this chapter.
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Lack of proper control of customers. The licensee shall use good judgment in the sale of intoxicating beverages and shall not sell same to persons obviously intoxicated. If any customer becomes unruly or abusive, it shall be the duty of the licensee to call and fully cooperate with police, or other law enforcement authority. The licensee shall take appropriate and necessary steps to supervise the premises immediately outside the liquor establishment, shall keep said premises free from litter, and shall not allow the premises to become a gathering location for the liquor establishment's customers. This is not an exhaustive list, but only provided as an example of the type of behavior that may result in the suspension or revocation of license

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Oct 14, 2013
 
Rules are Rules wrote:
Does anyone remember this?
It is the first time the City of Arnold has used an ordinance the city council passed in February of 2010. It gives city authorities to revoke a business license if a business causes or maintains a nuisance or permits activities that are determined to be detrimental to the health, safety or welfare of residents.

The City said the Jefferson County Sheriff's Drug Task Force, the DEA and the FBI responded to drug overdoses, prostitution, child pornography, stealing, assault, drug sales, drug manufacturing, rape, burglary and other felonious actions at the hotel at 888 Arnold Commons Drive.

The city said it and the police department worked with Value Place to address the problems, but it was not effective.

The Value Place Hotel can petition the city council for a hearing to reinstate its license within 15 days of this action.

The City of Arnold has called a press conference at 1:00 p.m. Friday to further address the issue.
And yet they never suspended the license. They worked with management to come to an agreement. Your memory sucks.

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