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MrsTrish

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Jul 6, 2012
 
What we expect from our sheriff..

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

What we have now, that we must vote out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Jul 6, 2012
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA MrsTrish that was friggin hilarious. Get a clue
MrsTrish

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Jul 7, 2012
 
This might be really hard for you, and if it is too much, just let me know, but could you possibly state why you think it's hilarious, and why I need to "get a clue"?
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Jul 7, 2012
 

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I like everything u post keep it up

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Jul 8, 2012
 
I think it is hilarious for several reasons.

1. How do you know that is what it is like at the department? Do you work there, Have you worked there?

2. You want a county that is run like another county which has nothing to do with our area, or set of problems.

3. You make comparisons in a recruitment video and a political video. The go get em video looks like it is for recruits and meant to amp them up. The second looks like a political video.

4. Next you have POLICE videos. The problem with this is area vs. ability. Since our county is rural how exactly do you want stuff like bike patrols? Be real we don't live in an area where this can happen.

Lastly both video's have nothing even remotely based in reality for the sheriff of the County. It is easy to post video's to defame or insult people when you have the ability of hindsight or are perfect as long as you sit behind a computer. Why don't you run for Sheriff or Commissioner since you know how to solve every problem? You probably won't though because it takes fortitude to get in the lime light and deal with pathetic people criticizing everything you do.

Real quick since I answered your question, lets see if you have the guts to answer mine and be honest about it. How is it that you know this is the way the Sheriff runs the Office. Seems like you have internal knowledge since one video focuses on training and Officers being intense and yelling at all the new guys. Were you one of the new guys? I have yet to see any Deputy act like this in public, nor anyone say that they have seen Officers act like this. I have never seen the Sheriff act like this, or his command staff go around jumping over walls and tac rolling everywhere...although that would be a sight.
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Jul 8, 2012
 
1. How do you know that is what it is like at the department? Do you work there, Have you worked there?

Nope, just seen them in action..

2. You want a county that is run like another county which has nothing to do with our area, or set of problems.

Nope, I want my county sheriff's office to work towards solving problems, not making them worse.

3. You make comparisons in a recruitment video and a political video. The go get em video looks like it is for recruits and meant to amp them up. The second looks like a political video.

Nope, both are recruitment videos.

Real quick since I answered your question, lets see if you have the guts to answer mine and be honest about it.

Our officers are trained to be a para-military organization, they freely admit that. That is what you see in the second video. They do not hold themselves to a higher standard. Working within the problem areas of Christian county, to solve problems before they escalate is not what they do. 4th of July, my tweaker neighbors where shooting rockets into a dry field, right next to my home. First call I made to 911, was we can't do anything until a fire is started. Not the sheriff's fault, but whatever.. To keep them from starting a grass fire that would have endangered my home, we turned our cars around with the lights on. Said neighbors then threatened to "get the gun" Now, they are serious tweakers, and any gun they might have had, would have been sold long ago to supply the habit, but remarks like that should not go unpunished correct? Officers came out, said they where too busy, so they where just going to write everyone a trespass notice, and the neighbors would stop shooting rockets into dry field. Now, a good policeman would not have punished the people trying to protect their property, would have wrote a peace disturbance ticket to the one's endangering said property, and continued to do patrols making sure that rockets where not being fired into dry grass. If it was your property being endangered, you would have expected the same.
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Jul 8, 2012
 
I have to point something out that trish said. Almost all agencies in united states and world that are modernized are ran paramilitary style. With that being said it is not a bad thing if you understand the concept, para meaning similar to military as far as rank and file. Just because it is paramilitary style does not mean the department has to run around acting like jerks and robots that is where it is taken out of context. If you understand the meaning and dont lose site of the real position of the Office of Sheriff; serving the citizens of the county you are in under the Sheriff's direction it is a great thing. Just remember Flint for Sheriff!!! He understands the true concept of the Sheriff's office, serve the people not yourself or ego
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Jul 8, 2012
 
Well Mrs. Trish I watched the videos and will tell you that your view is a little off. I will say that I understand what you are trying to get across, and tell you a good Officer or Deputy should be able to use all aspects of both videos. If you have not been in law enforcement you would not understand that there is a time and place for one person to utilize community oriented police approach like the first video, but also use all officer safety tactics in other situations like the second one. A good law enforcer should be able to use both when the time is right and that falls on how they are trained and from the direction of their supervisors. In my opinion a good cop should also be a problem solver not just a report taker, but when it is time to handle the high risk dangerous situations the same cop should be able to handle it the proper way. Being a citizen of the county and in law enforcement I understand your view and agree with some points, but please look at it from our view, some people will try to hurt us just because of our profession. Others only think about us when they are scared and in need of help. Anyway sorry about trailing off subject...If you want the best of both worlds in that aspect of law enforcement you should contact Flint and speak with him, I think you would have a refreshing outlook on law enforcement. Flint for Sheriff
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Jul 8, 2012
 
I think that our sheriff's dept is trained to allow situations escalate until the crimes become newsworthy, allowing the current sheriff some TV time.

Am I wrong,I hope so. Going from a suburbia mom, forced to move into the white trash area of Christian county, has really opened my eye on how crime is handled in this county. It's almost as if its allowed to happen, so politicians can scream "we need to be tough on crime"
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Jul 8, 2012
 
Mrs Trish you know I don't agree with much that you say. But in a way crime is treated laxed in Christian county but that does not always fall on the sheriffs office. Sheriffs dept is at the mercy of the prosecutor if they don't wanna file then the deputy is screwed. Then it up to the judges and they are really relaxed in Christian county. I've seen how relaxed they can be Espically a certain judge. It is a joke and a lot of the offenders know this.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
LEO 1 wrote:
Mrs Trish you know I don't agree with much that you say. But in a way crime is treated laxed in Christian county but that does not always fall on the sheriffs office. Sheriffs dept is at the mercy of the prosecutor if they don't wanna file then the deputy is screwed. Then it up to the judges and they are really relaxed in Christian county. I've seen how relaxed they can be Espically a certain judge. It is a joke and a lot of the offendeers know this.
Yes but leo1 you know as well as I do that alot of it depends on how well the Deputy writes the report too. If the Deputy does not care about his report or is trained to be just a call taker or trained poorly that does fall on the Sheriff. It could also be because the Deputy training them does not know how to write reports, but it all falls on the Sheriff because he is responsible and held accountable for the actions, or lack of by his men
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Jul 9, 2012
 
MrsTrish wrote:
4th of July, my tweaker neighbors where shooting rockets into a dry field, right next to my home. First call I made to 911, was we can't do anything until a fire is started. Not the sheriff's fault, but whatever.. To keep them from starting a grass fire that would have endangered my home, we turned our cars around with the lights on. Said neighbors then threatened to "get the gun" Now, they are serious tweakers, and any gun they might have had, would have been sold long ago to supply the habit, but remarks like that should not go unpunished correct? Officers came out, said they where too busy, so they where just going to write everyone a trespass notice, and the neighbors would stop shooting rockets into dry field. Now, a good policeman would not have punished the people trying to protect their property, would have wrote a peace disturbance ticket to the one's endangering said property, and continued to do patrols making sure that rockets where not being fired into dry grass. If it was your property being endangered, you would have expected the same.
There are a limited number of officers available. Do you really think you were the only one in the county calling to complain about neighbors shooting off fireworks? You think your potential danger was more important than the domestic violence call, drunk driving call, child injured in fireworks accident call they were also receiving? You also didn't think shining your car lights into the field was going to escalate the problem? The officer did the best he could under the circumstances. He treated everyone involved in the drama equally. He probably didn't make anyone happy, but he diffused the situation and you all had a safe evening. You always seem to forget when you are pointing the finger at everyone else, your other fingers are pointing back at you. You need to take some responsibility for your part in your difficulties. Your choices have led you to where you are. Maybe if you make better choices, you will find yourself in a better place and have a better relationship with your neighbors and local officers.
You could have sat outside with a garden hose handy and a bucket of water and enjoyed the neighbor's fireworks show. If you were keeping watch, you could have stopped any fire from spreading before it even got started. That doesn't mean it is right for the neighbors to be shooting off fireworks in dangerous conditions. You are not in control of their actions though. Only your own. You chose conflict and escalation over any other option.
Interesting you point out several times these neighbors are tweakers. You advocate for legalizing pot and letting people make their own decisions on what they put in their bodies, but that obviously only applies to people with your beliefs. You were obviously insulting your neighbors for the choice of drugs they choose. Maybe they do drugs for a reason. Maybe they have problems that cannot be treated any other way. Rather judgemental of you.
Your stupidity is frequently amusing, but otherwise just sad.
County Resident

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Jul 9, 2012
 
Sorry for the double post. Not sure why that happened.
Trish is a hypocrite

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Jul 9, 2012
 
MrsTrish wrote:
Officers came out, said they where too busy, so they where just going to write everyone a trespass notice, and the neighbors would stop shooting rockets into dry field.
If everyone got a trespass notice, you must have been trespassing. You must dislike officers so much because they feel the law applies equally to you. You seem to feel the law only applies to other people. Just because the neighbors trespassed first, doesn't make it okay for you to trespass.
Most of us want honest and fair officers. That seems to be what we have. Good job Joey Kyle. Thank you Mrs Trish for showing us such a great example of our officer's performance on a difficult holiday night.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
County Resident wrote:
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There are a limited number of officers available. Do you really think you were the only one in the county calling to complain about neighbors shooting off fireworks? You think your potential danger was more important than the domestic violence call, drunk driving call, child injured in fireworks accident call they were also receiving? You also didn't think shining your car lights into the field was going to escalate the problem? The officer did the best he could under the circumstances. He treated everyone involved in the drama equally. He probably didn't make anyone happy, but he diffused the situation and you all had a safe evening. You always seem to forget when you are pointing the finger at everyone else, your other fingers are pointing back at you. You need to take some responsibility for your part in your difficulties. Your choices have led you to where you are. Maybe if you make better choices, you will find yourself in a better place and have a better relationship with your neighbors and local officers.
You could have sat outside with a garden hose handy and a bucket of water and enjoyed the neighbor's fireworks show. If you were keeping watch, you could have stopped any fire from spreading before it even got started. That doesn't mean it is right for the neighbors to be shooting off fireworks in dangerous conditions. You are not in control of their actions though. Only your own. You chose conflict and escalation over any other option.
Interesting you point out several times these neighbors are tweakers. You advocate for legalizing pot and letting people make their own decisions on what they put in their bodies, but that obviously only applies to people with your beliefs. You were obviously insulting your neighbors for the choice of drugs they choose. Maybe they do drugs for a reason. Maybe they have problems that cannot be treated any other way. Rather judgemental of you.
Your stupidity is frequently amusing, but otherwise just sad.
There is a limited number of County Deputies available because the command staff is to busy patting them self on the back to realize they have only scheduled one deputy for the night patrol duties. Oh yea and they use a couple reserve officers you will come in on a minutes notice. The Sheriff (Bozo Kyle) said her needs more money and more deputies. How about using the ones you have, take the ones off of the Marshals task force and make them again dot eh duties they were hired for, to protect the community in which they are employed. How about you BOZO stop sending your buddy's to wasted training and put them back on the street. How about the commissioned deputies working in the jail who go home after shift sporting the badge and gun saying they are Deputies, make them get out and work the streets and stop wasting our tax money. Or even better why does his command staff draw such high [ay checks but only work part time when they also could be out on patrol. Yes Kyle is an idiot.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
@ Tired tax payer. Everything you stated was spot on. There are just 2 things I would like to comment on.

1. I personally know 1 that is attached to the Marshal Task force and it does not affect is normal patrol duties.

2. Per Kyle himself the reason the deputies in the jail cannot work the road to help out. Is insurance issues and they can not be hired for a jail position and work road something to do with the law. But it is ok for them to assist in Joplin and not get paid because the county supposedly messed up on the paperwork. Now there letting the deputies from the jail work at linden doing patrol.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
Trish is a hypocrite wrote:
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If everyone got a trespass notice, you must have been trespassing. You must dislike officers so much because they feel the law applies equally to you. You seem to feel the law only applies to other people. Just because the neighbors trespassed first, doesn't make it okay for you to trespass.
Most of us want honest and fair officers. That seems to be what we have. Good job Joey Kyle. Thank you Mrs Trish for showing us such a great example of our officer's performance on a difficult holiday night.
Nice name. None of the people involved stepped foot on either ones property. That's what the trespass warning laughable.

Maybe we could have handled it differently, but the field wasn't set on fire, and my property wasn't endangered. That doesn't mean the officers handled the situation properly.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
County Resident wrote:
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There are a limited number of officers available. Do you really think you were the only one in the county calling to complain about neighbors shooting off fireworks? You think your potential danger was more important than the domestic violence call, drunk driving call, child injured in fireworks accident call they were also receiving? You also didn't think shining your car lights into the field was going to escalate the problem? The officer did the best he could under the circumstances. He treated everyone involved in the drama equally. He probably didn't make anyone happy, but he diffused the situation and you all had a safe evening. You always seem to forget when you are pointing the finger at everyone else, your other fingers are pointing back at you. You need to take some responsibility for your part in your difficulties. Your choices have led you to where you are. Maybe if you make better choices, you will find yourself in a better place and have a better relationship with your neighbors and local officers.
You could have sat outside with a garden hose handy and a bucket of water and enjoyed the neighbor's fireworks show. If you were keeping watch, you could have stopped any fire from spreading before it even got started. That doesn't mean it is right for the neighbors to be shooting off fireworks in dangerous conditions. You are not in control of their actions though. Only your own. You chose conflict and escalation over any other option.
Interesting you point out several times these neighbors are tweakers. You advocate for legalizing pot and letting people make their own decisions on what they put in their bodies, but that obviously only applies to people with your beliefs. You were obviously insulting your neighbors for the choice of drugs they choose. Maybe they do drugs for a reason. Maybe they have problems that cannot be treated any other way. Rather judgemental of you.
Your stupidity is frequently amusing, but otherwise just sad.
No, I advocate for things that are not a danger to others to be legal.
I advocate for truthful education. Legalize
Pot, treat it like tobacco and watch usage
Drop. Tell parents how
Closely ADHD meds resemble meth and show them the numbers of kids who go on to be drug addicts and watch the usage of meds, and drug addicts drop. Allow Americans to make educated choices and watch society flourish. Continue to scream for a nanny state where govt knows best, and see the results around you.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
The reason for limited Deputies is because so many have quit and the commission wont replace them. Another issue is the scheduling they work 12 hour shifts and sometime there are only 2 on. That is bad because with the calls and reports they are always behind on reports and use alot of the shift to catch up on that paperwork. It is obvious that they are poorly managed. I was told by one of them it was a choice made by the Chief Deputy to show his power. That is the person making most of the problems because he is not very experienced to begin with and was made the number 2 guy in charge of the department...poor choices all around.
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Jul 10, 2012
 
reality wrote:
The reason for limited Deputies is because so many have quit and the commission wont replace them. Another issue is the scheduling they work 12 hour shifts and sometime there are only 2 on. That is bad because with the calls and reports they are always behind on reports and use alot of the shift to catch up on that paperwork. It is obvious that they are poorly managed. I was told by one of them it was a choice made by the Chief Deputy to show his power. That is the person making most of the problems because he is not very experienced to begin with and was made the number 2 guy in charge of the department...poor choices all around.
The commissioners have been clear about tax revenue being down and not having enough money to pay for everything the county needs. Sheriff Kyle has had to run the department on less money each year. That means he has had to make difficult cuts and employees have gone without raises, worked more hours, and had to do more jobs. Of course most deputies are not going to like those changes. Unlike some government agencies, our sheriff is managing the department within the budget given to him. This is not an easy task in a world where being in debt is the norm and living within your means is the exception. If county residents want more officers, they need to shop, eat, fuel vehicles, go to the movies, etc. in Christian County to generate the sales tax needed instead of giving all their tax money to Greene and Stone counties. The residents are making the decision not to fund our Sheriff Department as well as our road districts.

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