Dear Prohibitionist
MrsTrish

Eldridge, MO

#1 Jul 26, 2012
1. Why do you rejoice at the fact that we have all been stripped of our unalienable rights, leaving us totally subordinate to a corporatized, despotic government with a heavily armed and corrupt, militarized police force whose often deadly intrusions into our homes and lives are condoned by an equally corrupt and spineless judiciary?

#2. Why do you wish to continue to spend $50 billion a year to prosecute and cage your fellow citizens for choosing substances which are not more dangerous than those of which you yourself probably use and approve of, such as alcohol and tobacco?

#3. Do you honestly expect the rest of us to look on passively while you waste another trillion dollars on this ruinously expensive garbage policy?

#4. Why are you waging war on your own family, friends and neighbors?

#5. Why are you so complacent with the fact that our once 'proud and free' nation now has the largest percentage of it's citizenry incarcerated than any other on the entire planet?

#6. Why are you helping to fuel a budget crisis to the point of closing hospitals, schools and libraries?

#7. Why do you rejoice at wasting precious resources on prohibition related undercover work while rapists and murderers walk free, while additionally, many cases involving murder and rape do not even get taken to trial because law enforcement priorities are subverted by your beloved failed and dangerous policy?

#8. Why are you a supporter of the 'prison industrial complex' to the extent of endangering our nation's children?

#9. Will you graciously applaud when, due to your own incipient and authoritarian approach, even your own child is caged and raped?

* It is estimated that there are over 300,000 instances of prison rape a year.
* 196,000 are estimated to happen to men in prison.
* 123,000 are estimated to happen to men in county jail.
* 40,000 are estimated to be committed against boys in either adult prisons or while in juvenile facilities or lock ups.
* 5000 women are estimated to be raped in prison.

#10. And will you also applaud when your own child, due to an unnecessary and counter productive felony conviction, can no longer find employment?
I Can Bite

Ozark, MO

#2 Jul 26, 2012
1) I do rejoice at being an American and all the rights that come with it. I am well armed, say what I feel needs to be said, and enjoy living in a relatively safe country. I exercise many of my other freedoms also, including working my a** off to pay for the things I want and untilizing many public amenities including parks, rivers, forests, law enforcement, and other government agencies. I am happy to pay taxes to support the infrastructure that allows me to travel the entire country anytime I want to and other public services including law enforcement, the judicial system, and schools. Not so happy when my taxes pay for people to live on welfare their entire lifes while the smoke dope and enjoy their limited life.
2) I actually don't think anyone should smoke cigarettes. It is a stinky habit that is hard to quit even when you know it is killing you. Unfortuneately, it was commonplace before people realized just how bad it is. If it had only been discovered recently, it would not be legal. For many people, alcohol is also addicting and deadly. So if marijuana isn't any worse than that, making it legal sure isn't going to help anything.
3) Yes because the majority of us disagree with your assessment.
4) I have had a family member in jail due to drugs. He started with smoking pot. Being nice to him did not help at all. He died in his 20's. I would rather 'wage war' and try to do something than sit back and watch people I care about kill themselves because chemicals are interfering with rational thought.
5) Because mandatory birth control is illegal in our country. It is one of those freedom things.
6) That would actually be the people who choose not to work or to work for cash and only work hard at getting stuff for free.
7) A high percentage of murders and rapes (and thefts) are drug related. They tie together well. How would you find rapists? Undercover officers usually find much more than drugs.
8) Nothing like competition to make an entity more efficient.
9) My children were raised to respect the law, not break it and end up incarcerated. However, if one were to choose this path, the consequences are theirs to bear. I do not applaud what happens in prisons, but I do feel too many Americans do not feel responsible for the choices that get them where they are. Make better choices, don't go to jail. Not a difficult concept.
10) Again, consequences of your own choices. Many felons have gone on to be successful, productive citizens by working hard and making better choices in the future. That doesn't mean the consequences of their bad decisions ended, only that they responded to those consequences in a positive way. I personally know people who made poor choices when they were young and will never be allowed to own a firearm. It is no different than someone who makes a bad decision that leads to losing a limb. They will never get that limb back. They live with the consequence. Most criminals will tell you that where they are is not their fault. Most non-criminals will tell you they got where they are because of the choices they made and the work they put in.
Does our prison system need work? Yes. Does any country have a perfect solution? No. In our country, we have the freedom to make our own choices. That does not mean there are no consequences to those choices.
MrsTrish

Eldridge, MO

#3 Jul 26, 2012
1. Nice, but that did not answer the question at all. Why do you rejoice in stripping our rights from us?

2. Marijuana is far safer than both cig's and alcohol, so your answer really doesn't make sense.

3. You don't agree the drug war has failed? Great, let's see some examples of cannabis usage going down.(hint-Cannabis use is at all time high for adults in the US)

4. No one has ever died from cannabis, and the gateway theory is hogwash. When I say hogwash, I mean really, there is no scientific proof that someone who smokes cannabis will ever decide to go onto "harder" drugs.

5. Ugh, we don't have the freedom to choose what medicine we want. It's not one of those freedom things. It's an overbearing gov't brought about by an apathetic voter base, who believe's everything they are told.

6. Nope, welfare only represents 3% of the federal budget.

7. Yes, a high percentage of all crime is related to drugs, however it's the legal drug - Alcohol. So I am not sure what your point is?

8. Seriously? You think we should breed children just to make sure our prisons stay at 90% capacity?(States had to sign contracts stating the prisons would stay full, for the prison industry to take them over)

9. So your OK with your child being raped, if he makes the bad decision to smoke a joint. Parenting 101 right there..

10. Denying people the opportunistic to succeed is counter*productive, and often worse for society than the crime that was committed.

In our country, we are supposed to be free. Free to make choices that do not harm ourselves or others. Laws have slowly but surely ripped that away from us, and some feel we have a moral and ethical responsibility to not be sheep, and break those laws bringing it to the attention of those who believe that all laws are good and just.
Lock Em Up

Lees Summit, MO

#4 Jul 26, 2012
MrsTrish wrote:
1. Nice, but that did not answer the question at all. Why do you rejoice in stripping our rights from us?
2. Marijuana is far safer than both cig's and alcohol, so your answer really doesn't make sense.
3. You don't agree the drug war has failed? Great, let's see some examples of cannabis usage going down.(hint-Cannabis use is at all time high for adults in the US)
4. No one has ever died from cannabis, and the gateway theory is hogwash. When I say hogwash, I mean really, there is no scientific proof that someone who smokes cannabis will ever decide to go onto "harder" drugs.
5. Ugh, we don't have the freedom to choose what medicine we want. It's not one of those freedom things. It's an overbearing gov't brought about by an apathetic voter base, who believe's everything they are told.
6. Nope, welfare only represents 3% of the federal budget.
7. Yes, a high percentage of all crime is related to drugs, however it's the legal drug - Alcohol. So I am not sure what your point is?
8. Seriously? You think we should breed children just to make sure our prisons stay at 90% capacity?(States had to sign contracts stating the prisons would stay full, for the prison industry to take them over)
9. So your OK with your child being raped, if he makes the bad decision to smoke a joint. Parenting 101 right there..
10. Denying people the opportunistic to succeed is counter*productive, and often worse for society than the crime that was committed.
In our country, we are supposed to be free. Free to make choices that do not harm ourselves or others. Laws have slowly but surely ripped that away from us, and some feel we have a moral and ethical responsibility to not be sheep, and break those laws bringing it to the attention of those who believe that all laws are good and just.
You are one mixed up pothead.Why do you rejoice in showing everybody what a fool you are.If you get convicted this time you are going to the big house and that is why you are sounding off.It might be best for you to be very quiet now so you will have something to talk to your cellmate about.
armedvoter

United States

#5 Jul 26, 2012
I think it is entirely plausable to leave people with the right to choose for themselves what toxins to put in their own bodies, be it alcohol, thc, nicotine, saturated fat, corn syrup, etc. Alcohol and nicotine are large contributors to the government money machine and with the same regulations so could everything else out there. I would prefer that potheads, meth addicts, heroin junkies would have the opportunity to purchase their toxin of choice from a licensed dealer who is regulated by the law instead of the same people buying and selling to whoever has the money regardless of age, filling our prisons and costing the taxpayer money. the war on drugs is a loss and its time the people realized the fact and let people choose for themselves. I personally don't care what harm you do to yourself, its your life, not mine. Its a mute point anyhow, go ask anybody who works at a public school and they will tell you its not beer and weed anymore its stolen prescription medication the kids prefer nowadays. Its a lot easier for a kid to get and easier to hide and isn't tested for.
MrsTrish

Eldridge, MO

#6 Jul 26, 2012
Lock Em Up wrote:
<quoted text>You are one mixed up pothead.Why do you rejoice in showing everybody what a fool you are.If you get convicted this time you are going to the big house and that is why you are sounding off.It might be best for you to be very quiet now so you will have something to talk to your cellmate about.
What exactly would I get convicted of? To be "convicted" you have to be guilty of committing a crime. For now, until people like you get more power, trying to change immoral and unethical laws is not illegal.
Another View

Ozark, MO

#7 Jul 27, 2012
armedvoter wrote:
I think it is entirely plausable to leave people with the right to choose for themselves what toxins to put in their own bodies, be it alcohol, thc, nicotine, saturated fat, corn syrup, etc. Alcohol and nicotine are large contributors to the government money machine and with the same regulations so could everything else out there. I would prefer that potheads, meth addicts, heroin junkies would have the opportunity to purchase their toxin of choice from a licensed dealer who is regulated by the law instead of the same people buying and selling to whoever has the money regardless of age, filling our prisons and costing the taxpayer money. the war on drugs is a loss and its time the people realized the fact and let people choose for themselves. I personally don't care what harm you do to yourself, its your life, not mine. Its a mute point anyhow, go ask anybody who works at a public school and they will tell you its not beer and weed anymore its stolen prescription medication the kids prefer nowadays. Its a lot easier for a kid to get and easier to hide and isn't tested for.
The problem with your theory is people on narcotics commit crimes and infringe on others rights. Face-eating meth-head ring a bell? That is an extreme example, but people on these narcotics cannot think rationally. Part of the reason these drugs lead to crime is they are addictive and users will do anything to get more of it. Even if it is sold legally, they will steal, kill, or whatever to get money to buy it. They become a further drag on society because they are unable to work and pay taxes, end up in hospitals and are unable to pay for it, fill homeless shelters and pull food and money from other charities. Prescription medicine is regulated currently and that is not working out so well for keeping our youth safe. There is no reason to think that legalizing any other drug would reduce usage.
Another View

Ozark, MO

#8 Jul 27, 2012
MrsTrish wrote:
<quoted text>
What exactly would I get convicted of? To be "convicted" you have to be guilty of committing a crime. For now, until people like you get more power, trying to change immoral and unethical laws is not illegal.
It is people like you that make some of us wish you could be locked up for being too stupid.

“Meh”

Since: Jan 11

Under your bed

#9 Jul 27, 2012
Personally with the hard core and synthetic epidemic going on in this country, I really don't understand why so much time and money is being wasted on policing weed.

I didn't know what meth was until 1985 when I moved to CA. There I met crazy people who stayed up all night, rewiring their stereo's so that all the lights blinked, or painting their car, in their driveway, with 17 cans of silver spray paint.

Now they leave their babies in car seats in the attic over night so they can "party". They drive around with the kid and a working meth lab in the car.(I remember when they busted a "lab" and it was a real labratory, now it's a 2 liter mountain dew bottle) They rob, rape, beat, mutilate and murder.

What do pot heads do? I mean seriously, I have a couple tweekers living across the street from me now. The fun never ends. When the potheads lived down the road, I never heard a peep out of them. And the potheads kept their yard up.
I miss the potheads.
MrsTrish

Eldridge, MO

#10 Jul 27, 2012
Another View wrote:
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The problem with your theory is people on narcotics commit crimes and infringe on others rights. Face-eating meth-head ring a bell? That is an extreme example, but people on these narcotics cannot think rationally. Part of the reason these drugs lead to crime is they are addictive and users will do anything to get more of it. Even if it is sold legally, they will steal, kill, or whatever to get money to buy it. They become a further drag on society because they are unable to work and pay taxes, end up in hospitals and are unable to pay for it, fill homeless shelters and pull food and money from other charities. Prescription medicine is regulated currently and that is not working out so well for keeping our youth safe. There is no reason to think that legalizing any other drug would reduce usage.
You must be confusing cannabis with physically addicting drugs like prescription pain pills, meth, alcohol, and tobacco. While 1 in 100 will get addicted to cannabis, and those who suffer withdrawal, may have a headache (just like caffeine) 40 million Americans admit to using pot, 6 billion joints will be smoked in the US this year, yet any crime you see pot related is due to prohibition, not use of the drug itself.

Studies have shown that regulation,not prohibition works better to keep kids of drugs.
armedvoter

United States

#11 Jul 27, 2012
Another View wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with your theory is people on narcotics commit crimes and infringe on others rights. Face-eating meth-head ring a bell? That is an extreme example, but people on these narcotics cannot think rationally. Part of the reason these drugs lead to crime is they are addictive and users will do anything to get more of it. Even if it is sold legally, they will steal, kill, or whatever to get money to buy it. They become a further drag on society because they are unable to work and pay taxes, end up in hospitals and are unable to pay for it, fill homeless shelters and pull food and money from other charities. Prescription medicine is regulated currently and that is not working out so well for keeping our youth safe. There is no reason to think that legalizing any other drug would reduce usage.
The face eater was finding a creative way to get a fix using bath salts, totally legal and your kids can go to walgreens and buy all they want. If people want to get a fix they will no matter what is legal or illegal. This is america "land of the free" and that used to mean something.

There will always be criminals and junkies, even mayberry had otis. The war on drugs is really just a way for a lot of people to make money on the backs of working americans, look at the facts. Drug testing is a joke, squarely aimed at the pothead, who in reality is the least likely to cause an employer problems, least likely to come home and abuse their families. I have seen far more problems out of alcoholics than any pothead, seen far. more families destroyed by alcohol than any other drug, far more people are "accidentally" killed as a direct result of alcohol than any other drug, how many people do you know that were killed or seriously injured by drunk drivers. Too many.
Elmer

Brighton, MO

#12 Jul 28, 2012
armedvoter wrote:
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The face eater was finding a creative way to get a fix using bath salts, totally legal and your kids can go to walgreens and buy all they want. If people want to get a fix they will no matter what is legal or illegal. This is america "land of the free" and that used to mean something.
There will always be criminals and junkies, even mayberry had otis. The war on drugs is really just a way for a lot of people to make money on the backs of working americans, look at the facts. Drug testing is a joke, squarely aimed at the pothead, who in reality is the least likely to cause an employer problems, least likely to come home and abuse their families. I have seen far more problems out of alcoholics than any pothead, seen far. more families destroyed by alcohol than any other drug, far more people are "accidentally" killed as a direct result of alcohol than any other drug, how many people do you know that were killed or seriously injured by drunk drivers. Too many.
Why is it necessary to use any kind of substance legal or illegal, instead of just learning to deal with life as for it comes your way. What ever happened to having respect for yourself and self discipline? How about learning to handle difficult decisions and learning to make good and moral decisions that benefit you and your neighbor, your health and your future? All these substances are just a way to escape reality. Some people can do this on their own, but somepeople people need professional help.Some of these problems come down to greed and the user doesn't want to accept the fact that all they're doing is helping that greedy person fill their pockets, while they destroy themselves. The greedy person just uses you and once they have totally destroyed you, that move on the the next one. So sad how people describe "Freedom".
MrsTrish

Eldridge, MO

#13 Jul 28, 2012
Elmer wrote:
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Why is it necessary to use any kind of substance legal or illegal, instead of just learning to deal with life as for it comes your way. What ever happened to having respect for yourself and self discipline? How about learning to handle difficult decisions and learning to make good and moral decisions that benefit you and your neighbor, your health and your future? All these substances are just a way to escape reality. Some people can do this on their own, but somepeople people need professional help.Some of these problems come down to greed and the user doesn't want to accept the fact that all they're doing is helping that greedy person fill their pockets, while they destroy themselves. The greedy person just uses you and once they have totally destroyed you, that move on the the next one. So sad how people describe "Freedom".
I get it, I understand completely where you are coming from. The reality is that even Mayberry had a Otis. From the beginning of time, until the end of time there are going to be people who for whatever reason need to get intoxicated. Nothing the way the current system is set up, will prevent that so let's stop throwing money into a failed policy.

Freedom is freedom. If you pick and choose how people get to enjoy "freedom" then it really isn't freedom at all.

“Meh”

Since: Jan 11

Under your bed

#14 Jul 28, 2012
armedvoter wrote:
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The face eater was finding a creative way to get a fix using bath salts, totally legal and your kids can go to walgreens and buy all they want. If people want to get a fix they will no matter what is legal or illegal. This is america "land of the free" and that used to mean something.
First, the bath salts in question aren't calgon and they don't sell it at walgreens, walmart, cvs, or any other corporate owned store that has quarterly inspections.

Second, at no time in the history of this country has it been a free-for-all. There has always been laws and regulations since the colonies. From laws on having to pay taxes,(to the crown and the church), to laws on smuggling and even laws covering drunk in public, this country has ALWAYS attempted to control it's populace as do all counrties.

Land of the free has more to do with being able to openly disagree with the government, than doing whatever you want.

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