Homosexuals in Alabama

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“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

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#1 Jan 2, 2010
I just want to know how folks feel about homosexuals here in Alabama. Do you know any personally? What about allowing them to have legal marriages? What about letting churches/synagouges or other houses of worship opt out of having to perform marriage rites for them if they do get the legal right to marry?

I'm straight, but this is an issue I feel should be discussed. After all, they could be our next-door neighbors.
jstBu

Monroeville, AL

#2 Mar 29, 2010
being homosexual doesnt make you a bad person it just makes you different from the rest. i think it is up to the church at which homosexuals want to marry at decision on whether to marry the couple. but i will say denying homosexuals that right is like denying a 16 year old girl and 17 year old guy whom had sex for the first time and ending up pregnant then allowing them to marry only for the sake of the pregnation!!!! THINK ABOUT IT, A SIN IS A SIN, NO MATTER WHO COMMITS IT!!!

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#3 Mar 29, 2010
jstBu wrote:
being homosexual doesnt make you a bad person it just makes you different from the rest. i think it is up to the church at which homosexuals want to marry at decision on whether to marry the couple. but i will say denying homosexuals that right is like denying a 16 year old girl and 17 year old guy whom had sex for the first time and ending up pregnant then allowing them to marry only for the sake of the pregnation!!!! THINK ABOUT IT, A SIN IS A SIN, NO MATTER WHO COMMITS IT!!!
Now, to me it is a greater atrocity that a young couple can get married if they are of opposite genders than it is that anyone of same-gender can marry. If a person is of a reasonable age, often agreed upon as 18-19-21, and decides to marry then they should be able to do so. I really think it should be that a person should be of voting age to marry, at least.
John

Birmingham, AL

#4 Apr 4, 2010
They do whatever they do in private and thats their business, nobody has any business digging into their private lives. But there is no need for them to air their dirty laundry either, or try to shove it down my throat. Marriage will only be recognized between a man and woman in Alabama, thats the way its always been and thats the way its going to stay around here.

As far as churches being friendly towards homosexuals, its a sin just like any other, and they should be able to attend. But if they try to come to church crossdressing or holding hands and whatnot they should be asked to leave. If not and I am a member of that church the pastor will be asked to leave otherwise I would no longer be a member of that church.

I think you will find most folks around here would agree, this is definately not an openly gay friendly place and never will be. But most folks here also respect other people's privacy, so what you do behind the closed doors of your home is your business and your business only.

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#5 Apr 5, 2010
John wrote:
They do whatever they do in private and thats their business, nobody has any business digging into their private lives. But there is no need for them to air their dirty laundry either, or try to shove it down my throat. Marriage will only be recognized between a man and woman in Alabama, thats the way its always been and thats the way its going to stay around here.
As far as churches being friendly towards homosexuals, its a sin just like any other, and they should be able to attend. But if they try to come to church crossdressing or holding hands and whatnot they should be asked to leave. If not and I am a member of that church the pastor will be asked to leave otherwise I would no longer be a member of that church.
I think you will find most folks around here would agree, this is definately not an openly gay friendly place and never will be. But most folks here also respect other people's privacy, so what you do behind the closed doors of your home is your business and your business only.
What if there was ever a national law dictating that homosexuals had every right to LEGAL marriage (or unions, if one prefers)? What if it was considered a civil right? Are there not laws on Alabama's books saying that no mixed "race" marriage would be recognized? I think they're called "blue book" laws. I don't know for sure.

As for the never being friendly to openly homosexual folks, Alabama has come a long LOOOONNNG way in being friendly towards it's social outsiders. Look at "mixed kids". In Andalusia in the 1980's and 90's, such kids were often considered both an oddity and a taboo. In my class was a white girl who dated a black boy and was ostracized for it. Now, I don't know anything about Andalusia's acceptance of such since then but Enterprise is much more accepting than Andy was once. So, too, do I think is most of Alabama. And so also do I think that succeeding generations MAY possibly become more TOLERANT, if not accepting, of open homosexuals.
Kenneth Kirkland

Pleasant Grove, AL

#6 Apr 21, 2010
First of all they are not homosexuals but according to the Word of God are Sodomaties or queers! Those who do that which is against nature ! Now their sin is no different from any ones else's except they spread more diseases and in order to produce have to molest children ! They are not born queer but choose to be or are that way as a result of abuse.

They can be saved but only if they are willing to turn away from their sin as is required by the scriptures. In Romans chapter 1 it explains that they are the way that they are because they refuse to retain the knowledge of God and as a judgement of God have been turn over to a reprobate mind!

Their desire is not to be accepted but to have their perverted life style force on normal people and they do not intend on stopping that life style on others.

It is either you are them and there is no in between! Good and Evil can never dwell together in Peace !

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#7 Apr 23, 2010
Kenneth Kirkland wrote:
First of all they are not homosexuals but according to the Word of God are Sodomaties or queers! Those who do that which is against nature ! Now their sin is no different from any ones else's except they spread more diseases and in order to produce have to molest children ! They are not born queer but choose to be or are that way as a result of abuse.
They can be saved but only if they are willing to turn away from their sin as is required by the scriptures. In Romans chapter 1 it explains that they are the way that they are because they refuse to retain the knowledge of God and as a judgement of God have been turn over to a reprobate mind!
Their desire is not to be accepted but to have their perverted life style force on normal people and they do not intend on stopping that life style on others.
It is either you are them and there is no in between! Good and Evil can never dwell together in Peace !
You are saying that homosexuals molest kids? I've known of a few girls growing up who were molested by men. They often were molested by FAMILY. On the flip-side, I've known of no one who was molested by a homosexual. It can happen, but I've not seen it.

What would you, the reader and not necessarily this poster, do if it was scientifically proven that homosexuality is indeed a hormonal imbalance or is something that's hardwired into the brain from within the womb? Would ya then treat it like a handicap or a disease? After all, the Bible gives examples of lepers being cast out and cursed and yet we now know that leprosy is an illness.

You, the poster, seem really passionate about this.

Homosexuals want to force their lifestyle upon others? I've worked with and lived near many openly homosexuals and have never had them force their way of life upon me. I only had one girl hit on me, but she backed off when I told her I'm straight. We were good friends from that point onwards. In fact, it's my experience with homosexuals that makes me think that it may be a biological case of brain wiring mistakes that makes people feel like homosexuals.

You, I'm guessing, have been allowed to openly love any female in your life because you are male (the name). You know what it is to love another in such a manner. Why should that be denied to homosexuals? Why should they not be allowed to love each other? The Bible? Bring that as evidence to any court of law in any civilized nation and you would be ousted. The Bible is for it's followers as much as is the Koran for it's adherents and the sacred books of the Jews are for them. Yeah, the Bible has some good points and has sparked some great things like some of the colonies here. But that is a discussion for another thread.
Riki

New Providence, PA

#8 Jul 1, 2010
John wrote:
They do whatever they do in private and thats their business, nobody has any business digging into their private lives. But there is no need for them to air their dirty laundry either, or try to shove it down my throat. Marriage will only be recognized between a man and woman in Alabama, thats the way its always been and thats the way its going to stay around here.
As far as churches being friendly towards homosexuals, its a sin just like any other, and they should be able to attend. But if they try to come to church crossdressing or holding hands and whatnot they should be asked to leave. If not and I am a member of that church the pastor will be asked to leave otherwise I would no longer be a member of that church.
I think you will find most folks around here would agree, this is definately not an openly gay friendly place and never will be. But most folks here also respect other people's privacy, so what you do behind the closed doors of your home is your business and your business only.
I am about to be a new resident of Ozark, AL and I was researching the area in hopes that I won't have to fight to be ME! You have just made me realize that there will be no chance of me being happy and a bigger chance of harassment by coming there. It's closed minded individuals like yourself that make it hard for people to just enjoy the little bit of life they are going to live. 70+ years isn't really that long to live. Enjoy it while you can, and if that means enjoying your church AND relationship, so be it.

Doesn't it say in your bible: Judge not lest ye be judged" ??

You, sir, are judging where judging is not needed.

I am open to other people's thoughts, feelings, religions and a plethora of diversities.

Why can't I hold hands with my partner, but you can with your wife?

it's only fair.:P
Aleyra

Clanton, AL

#9 Jul 2, 2010
Food for thought: If you are against homosexuality think about whether it is the sexual act or the relationship of homosexuals that is so abhorrant?

Yes, these two things usually come hand in hand, but they are not necessarily one and the same. A couple years ago, I read about a heterosexual couple that met, fell in love, and during their engagement one was found to have contracted HIV through a blood transfusion. I can't remember if it was the husband or wife, but the partner loved their fiance with HIV so much that they went ahead with the marriage and the two remained abstinant the entire time. The partner stood by their spouse through it all as the infected spouse became ill, their HIV eventually became full blown AIDS and they died of it. This is a true marriage in my eyes, two people wanting so much to be with each other forever that they will live through anything and everything just to be by their side. No many marriages don't work out that way anymore, but that is the general idea of it.

Now most people would feel compassion and nothing but sympathy for said couple. However, what if it was a homosexual couple? So why should a couple expressing their love for one another by holding hands make you sick, friends hold hands and hug one another all the time. I can understand making out, but that goes for any couple. People generally don't like to watch others making out in public.

Now I don't believe in mixing religion with law, but as far as I remember reading in the bible, it was not the loving relationship that was "a sin" but the lustful and lude behavior of "sodimites". That behavior is risky and disgusting in my book regardless of sexual orientation. Homosexuals are just as capable of a healthy monogamous relationship as anyone else. If you argue that marriage is for having children, then what about couples that are not able to bare children, such as those who are on birth control, or have had medical operations, whether it was for personal or medical reasons? Their marriages would then be invalid as well. Marriage is often a mental and emotional committment between two people that they will be there to love and honor one another through both the good and the bad forever, it is the companionship and not the sexual action that makes it a marriage to me.

As for all homosexuals being molesters and disease spreaders that is simply the only people you tend to hear about in the news. The reality is many homosexuals live lives no different than a heterosexual couple, and are just as disgusted by the thought of touching a child as any so called "normal person" and are just as apalled by "players" as well. I find that the majority of homosexuals are unknown to those who are not close to them out of fear. A very real fear of being hated, ostricised, and even physically assaulted for what may or may not be a choice. The fact is we don't know and it may be that there are elements of both. But for every GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender for those who aren't familiary with this phrase) you meet who is rude and lude to you, truly trying to force their sexuality on you and generally being, I would be willing to bet money you have met 10 more that you never even knew about because they are so afraid to be honest about who they are. The vast majority are as disgusted about hitting on a "straight" person as they are of being hit on.
Darlene Barr

Seattle, WA

#10 Jul 4, 2010
It also says in the bible that adulterers should be stoned to death and that you can kill your wife if she is not a virgin. should be put this into law? how many of you would be dead?
traditional marriage=1 man and as many women as he could afford

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#11 Jul 4, 2010
Riki wrote:
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I am about to be a new resident of Ozark, AL and I was researching the area in hopes that I won't have to fight to be ME! You have just made me realize that there will be no chance of me being happy and a bigger chance of harassment by coming there. It's closed minded individuals like yourself that make it hard for people to just enjoy the little bit of life they are going to live. 70+ years isn't really that long to live. Enjoy it while you can, and if that means enjoying your church AND relationship, so be it.
Doesn't it say in your bible: Judge not lest ye be judged" ??
You, sir, are judging where judging is not needed.
I am open to other people's thoughts, feelings, religions and a plethora of diversities.
Why can't I hold hands with my partner, but you can with your wife?
it's only fair.:P
Best of luck to ya. If I were you, I'd keep such things low-key until you get settled in well and known. Ft. Rucker is near Ozark and thus brings in a bit of a diverse crowd. There are some openly homosexual folks around here, but none are overly "out". Most that I've met are low-key. I work in Enterprise in a rather busy place, so we're likely to cross paths at some point. As for me, I'm of the philosophy of whatever floats ya boat. Come on down here! We're not all like that other poster.
Trollface McGee

El Centro, CA

#12 Jul 5, 2010
Just as it is unconstitutional for anything involving religion to be incorporated with state government policy, it is unconstitutional for the state to come down on religious organizations to redefine their definition of holy matrimony.

Separation of Church and State works both ways, if a law is passed for same sex couples to have the same benefits as a traditional couple then so be it, just don't call it marriage. However, seeing how badly this country has become so overly-polarized with recent legislation (or lack there of), getting either side to agree on anything controversial will be next to impossible.

Either way, good luck.

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#13 Jul 5, 2010
Trollface McGee wrote:
Just as it is unconstitutional for anything involving religion to be incorporated with state government policy, it is unconstitutional for the state to come down on religious organizations to redefine their definition of holy matrimony.
Separation of Church and State works both ways, if a law is passed for same sex couples to have the same benefits as a traditional couple then so be it, just don't call it marriage. However, seeing how badly this country has become so overly-polarized with recent legislation (or lack there of), getting either side to agree on anything controversial will be next to impossible.
Either way, good luck.
I can't recall which comedian said this years ago, but I'm going to agree with (and paraphrase) them.

"Let the gays marry and be as miserable as the rest of us."

I dunno about the "miserable" thing, but I like the basic sentiment of letting them have the same privileges as the rest of Americans. Besides, no religion that opposes such marriages should be forced to recognize them. Churches ARE allowed to deny events they don't condone from occurring on their grounds. I also don't agree with folks saying that religions should recognize such marriages if they go against that religion's beliefs. If one is homosexual and walks into, let's say, a church expecting to be accepted as a homosexual...one is ignorant of church teachings or one is asking for trouble, IMO.
Trollface McGee

El Centro, CA

#14 Jul 5, 2010
The practice of marriage goes back before recorded history but the institutionalization of marriage began with its roots in religion, and marriage by definition is between a man and a women.

Same sex couples should have the same benefits as traditional couples, just don't call it marriage because it isn't.

Since homosexuality is viewed as a sin, a gay man or women should be able to walk into a church and be accepted just as drunks, drug addicts, gamblers, adulterers and everyone else with sin are also welcomed. Those who do not welcome such people are ignorant of church teachings and are asking for trouble.

Luke 6:37, we can sit and cherry pick bible verses, but leave the judgments to God.

“"2 roads diverged in a yellow ”

Since: Aug 09

wood. & I tuk d 1 < traveled."

#15 Jul 5, 2010
Trollface McGee wrote:
The practice of marriage goes back before recorded history but the institutionalization of marriage began with its roots in religion, and marriage by definition is between a man and a women.
Same sex couples should have the same benefits as traditional couples, just don't call it marriage because it isn't.
Since homosexuality is viewed as a sin, a gay man or women should be able to walk into a church and be accepted just as drunks, drug addicts, gamblers, adulterers and everyone else with sin are also welcomed. Those who do not welcome such people are ignorant of church teachings and are asking for trouble.
Luke 6:37, we can sit and cherry pick bible verses, but leave the judgments to God.
If that's the case, no one should say that that religion is being impinged upon by the legalization of homosexual marriages. Call them unions, commitments, knot-tyings, whatever you wish. Marriage is simply a common word used to denote the legal and/or religious union of (in our society, 2) folks who commit themselves to each other.

Marriages were once for political/economic gain and the production of children. Sometimes, they still are. But we have in place a system that allows any 2 people aged 16 and older with opposing genitalia to legally marry.
Trollface McGee

El Centro, CA

#16 Jul 6, 2010
In the end any type of legislation or lack of legislation would still essentially be offending one group of people to appease another, bringing every argument back to square one. States are left to decide their own policies with such matters, if California can't get it passed I doubt anything significant will ever happen in Alabama in the near future.
Muddy

Wise, VA

#17 Jul 30, 2010
Wow.....who even knew sex was even legal in Alabama?? Strip clubs being shut down, porn channels banned, sex toys banned, DOMA enforced...i guess the evangelical "Ayatollahs" truly run Alabama! What next...Burkas for women?
Muddy

Wise, VA

#18 Jul 30, 2010
Kenneth Kirkland wrote:
First of all they are not homosexuals but according to the Word of God are Sodomaties or queers! Those who do that which is against nature ! Now their sin is no different from any ones else's except they spread more diseases and in order to produce have to molest children ! They are not born queer but choose to be or are that way as a result of abuse.
They can be saved but only if they are willing to turn away from their sin as is required by the scriptures. In Romans chapter 1 it explains that they are the way that they are because they refuse to retain the knowledge of God and as a judgement of God have been turn over to a reprobate mind!
Their desire is not to be accepted but to have their perverted life style force on normal people and they do not intend on stopping that life style on others.
It is either you are them and there is no in between! Good and Evil can never dwell together in Peace !
Doesn't the book of Leviticus state the one should not wear clothing made of more than one material? Do you do that? Also, Romans is NOT Jesus talking, it is Paul!!
AbsolutelyAlabam a

Birmingham, AL

#19 Aug 9, 2010
I wish should of you would discuss it at the link below. Maybe we can get some diverse views, as currently everyone tend to speak out against it lol.

http://www.absolutelyalabama.com/showthread.p...
Kayla

Forest Lake, MN

#20 Sep 16, 2010
Im only 13 my option is impporant too? Right? Well anyways I used to know a guy who was bisexual. If it was my option I would have to say no gays. That s just the way I was raised by my family. Im sorry if you don't think I am right. As I said "Just the way I was raised."

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