Matthew Toerner - The Alleged Triggerman

Apr 22, 2007 Full story: www.latimes.com 196
Seabee Matthew Gerald Toerner, 20, the alleged trigger man accused of gunning down John Marmo in front of his Camarillo home the morning of December 1, 2006. Full Story
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Put emotions aside

Huntington Beach, CA

#182 Jun 28, 2011
All of you only think with emotions. Yes, this is very sad. I feel for Marmo, his family and friends and especially his daughter. I know Matthew -- I have known him since birth and still see and talk to him on a regular basis. You all have no idea what he is going through. He knows that he made a HUGE mistake, but it was just that a mistake, And he will live with that forever. He was tricked, but he is not blaming anyone for his mistakes. He has taken all the blame on himself for being nieve. And he is paying the price. He is not the "murderer" you all want to make him out to be. He is in jail for the rest of his life -- if he was that person, he would have no regard for anyone and would be involved in the riots and jail politics as he has nothing to lose now. But he refuses to play those games and to intentionally hurt any other human being, and has had to be put in protective custody because he he would not stab a guy or get involved in a black on white riot. Everything said in that trial and in the news is not "truth" so don't pretend to know the truth. We were not there and none of us will ever know the truth 100%.
justice will prevail

Tustin, CA

#183 Mar 3, 2012
Toerner is a cold blooded killer, end of story. He took a life and in return his life should have been taken. Let Nugent suck on that little nugget. It won't take long till someone at Calipatria turns Matthew into their bitch. Justice will be served.
justice will prevail

Tustin, CA

#184 Mar 3, 2012
Gee, who considered Mr. Marmo's emotions when he was being stalked and tormented by this group of thugs? I personally do not give a rats ass what Toerner is going through while is in prison. His actions led him to prison life and he is living and breathing while the family of the guy he murdered has to visit a grave with a body six feet under. We don't know the truth?? The truth is Toerner commited a MURDER. A victim does not recover from a MURDER!
Put emotions aside wrote:
All of you only think with emotions. Yes, this is very sad. I feel for Marmo, his family and friends and especially his daughter. I know Matthew -- I have known him since birth and still see and talk to him on a regular basis. You all have no idea what he is going through. He knows that he made a HUGE mistake, but it was just that a mistake, And he will live with that forever. He was tricked, but he is not blaming anyone for his mistakes. He has taken all the blame on himself for being nieve. And he is paying the price. He is not the "murderer" you all want to make him out to be. He is in jail for the rest of his life -- if he was that person, he would have no regard for anyone and would be involved in the riots and jail politics as he has nothing to lose now. But he refuses to play those games and to intentionally hurt any other human being, and has had to be put in protective custody because he he would not stab a guy or get involved in a black on white riot. Everything said in that trial and in the news is not "truth" so don't pretend to know the truth. We were not there and none of us will ever know the truth 100%.
justice will prevail

Tustin, CA

#185 Mar 4, 2012
savage wrote:
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look matt was not a low life scummbag ok you dont know him you never new him so how can you judge him yea he made a mistake and he is paying for it but to jump out there and say that stuff thats not very forgiving and do you think opur lord and savior woule comend you for talking about one of his childrenlike that
Marmo is paying for Toerners mistake too. Seriously?! You are dillusional The man lost his life because of this 'mistake'!
nugent

United States

#186 Mar 5, 2012
justice will prevail wrote:
<quoted text> Marmo is paying for Toerners mistake too. Seriously?! You are dillusional The man lost his life because of this 'mistake'!
Cold blooded killer. That's some hars words. As far as suckin on that nugget. Justice. You just sound stupid people make mistakes. Matts paying for his. But you don't know mat did you know this other guy marmo I did not know him I don't know what kinda man he was good bad or indifferent. I do know matt and asside from his. Mistake he had a good heart. And as far as you slandering him where he can't defend him self. Is bull shit justice. Just thought you should know that. So in your words suck on that little nugget
Logic

Stanton, CA

#187 Mar 6, 2012
You are able to talk to Toerner on a regular basis. How fortunate for you. What about Marmo's family, friends, and especially his daughter? They aren't able to because Toerner murdered Marmo. You keep referring to the murder as a mistake. Murder is not a mistake. It was a deliberate, intentional, plotted act where Toerner was lying in wait to ambush Marmo. So, yes, Toerner is in jail for the rest of his life facing the consequences for his actions. It is jail, not a luxury resort. It isn't supposed to be pleasant and that is part of the price Toerner will have to pay. And you are right, not everything said at the trial or in the newspaper is the truth. The biggest lies came from Toerner directly during his testimony. Truth is Toerner MURDERED Marmo, regardless of whether or not he was "tricked" or how "naive" Toerner is. And that is 100% irrefutable.
Put emotions aside wrote:
All of you only think with emotions. Yes, this is very sad. I feel for Marmo, his family and friends and especially his daughter. I know Matthew -- I have known him since birth and still see and talk to him on a regular basis. You all have no idea what he is going through. He knows that he made a HUGE mistake, but it was just that a mistake, And he will live with that forever. He was tricked, but he is not blaming anyone for his mistakes. He has taken all the blame on himself for being nieve. And he is paying the price. He is not the "murderer" you all want to make him out to be. He is in jail for the rest of his life -- if he was that person, he would have no regard for anyone and would be involved in the riots and jail politics as he has nothing to lose now. But he refuses to play those games and to intentionally hurt any other human being, and has had to be put in protective custody because he he would not stab a guy or get involved in a black on white riot. Everything said in that trial and in the news is not "truth" so don't pretend to know the truth. We were not there and none of us will ever know the truth 100%.
Logic

Stanton, CA

#188 Mar 6, 2012
nugent wrote:
<quoted text>Cold blooded killer. That's some hars words. As far as suckin on that nugget. Justice. You just sound stupid people make mistakes. Matts paying for his. But you don't know mat did you know this other guy marmo I did not know him I don't know what kinda man he was good bad or indifferent. I do know matt and asside from his. Mistake he had a good heart. And as far as you slandering him where he can't defend him self. Is bull shit justice. Just thought you should know that. So in your words suck on that little nugget
Calling Toerner a cold-blooded killer is not slanderous. Sometimes the truth is harsh. You "know Toerner and aside from his 'mistake' he has a good heart." I personally knew BOTH Toerner and Marmo. Neither of them were perfect. No one is, we are all human and make mistakes. But, MURDER IS NOT A MISTAKE. Toerner willingly participated in a deliberate, intentional, plotted murder. Toerner is NOT a good hearted person. He is pure evil. Marmo wasn't a saint, but he was a good guy. Marmo was a law abiding citizen who never inflicted pain upon others. Regardless of what Toerner supposedly believed to be true about Marmo, those "beliefs" did not entitle Toerner to act as judge, jury, and executioner. Toerner's actions are inexcusable and can't be justifies by calling it a "mistake."
justice will prevail

Tustin, CA

#189 Mar 7, 2012
nugent wrote:
<quoted text>
Cold blooded killer. That's some hars words. As far as suckin on that nugget. Justice. You just sound stupid people make mistakes. Matts paying for his. But you don't know mat did you know this other guy marmo I did not know him I don't know what kinda man he was good bad or indifferent. I do know matt and asside from his. Mistake he had a good heart. And as far as you slandering him where he can't defend him self. Is bull shit justice. Just thought you should know that. So in your words suck on that little nugget
Are you freakin insane? This 'mistake' that Toerner made cost a man his life!! He know longer breathes! Marmo's daughter is paying for Toerner's mistake too! She no longer has a father. How do you explain this 'mistake' to her? Of course I have made mistakes but I have NEVER taken another human beings life, because you see... I understand the difference between right and wrong. It is a pretty simple concept especially when it comes to MURDER!
justice will prevail

Tustin, CA

#190 Mar 7, 2012
nugent wrote:
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Mistake he had a good heart. And as far as you slandering him where he can't defend him self.
Because, of course, all good hearted people commit murder. Another nugget for you, Nugent.
NAMELESS

Riverside, CA

#191 Feb 3, 2013
I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD EXPECT WHEN YOU'RE THE COLD-BLOODED MURDERS FAMILY! AT 19 YOU HAVE A MIND OF YOUR OWN, SO HE SHOULD HAVE USED IT, AND USED IT RESPONSIBILY! JUST BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY DUPED BY THE EX, DOESN'T MEAN HE HAD ANY, AND I MEAN ANY RIGHT AT ALL TO GO AFTER THE DECEASED. THOUGHTLESS I'D SAY! HE NEVER EVER EVEN BOTHERED TO CONSIDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO POOR LITTLE GIRL IF THEY WERE CAUGHT! COLD HEARTED. HE DESERVES EVERYTHING HE GOT! I WISH THE DEATH PENALTY WAS NEVER TAKEN OFF THE TABLE! AN EYE FOR AN EYE! YET YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO LOOK DOWN ON OTHERS AND YOUR OWN FAMILY HAS A COLD-BLOODED KILLER IN THE FAMILY. I KNOW I DON'T. SO IF ANYONE SHOULD NOT JUDGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING IN LIFE, IT SHOULD BE YOU. YOU SOUND SO SELFISH. IT'S NO WONDER THIS KID TURNED OUT LIKE THIS. IT MUST RUN IN THE BLOOD. OH YEAH, YOU HAVE NONE, YOU'RE HEARTLESS. THE MARMO DESERVES BETTER! SO JUST KEEP YOUR STUPID COMMENTS TO YOURSELF, AS I TOO KNEW MATTHEW, AND YOUR FAMILY! RUTHLESS, ABSOLUTELY RUTHLESS!
Put emotions aside wrote:
All of you only think with emotions. Yes, this is very sad. I feel for Marmo, his family and friends and especially his daughter. I know Matthew -- I have known him since birth and still see and talk to him on a regular basis. You all have no idea what he is going through. He knows that he made a HUGE mistake, but it was just that a mistake, And he will live with that forever. He was tricked, but he is not blaming anyone for his mistakes. He has taken all the blame on himself for being nieve. And he is paying the price. He is not the "murderer" you all want to make him out to be. He is in jail for the rest of his life -- if he was that person, he would have no regard for anyone and would be involved in the riots and jail politics as he has nothing to lose now. But he refuses to play those games and to intentionally hurt any other human being, and has had to be put in protective custody because he he would not stab a guy or get involved in a black on white riot. Everything said in that trial and in the news is not "truth" so don't pretend to know the truth. We were not there and none of us will ever know the truth 100%.
NAMELESS

Riverside, CA

#192 Feb 3, 2013

1 min ago

I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD EXPECT WHEN YOU'RE THE COLD-BLOODED MURDERS FAMILY! AT 19 YOU HAVE A MIND OF YOUR OWN, SO HE SHOULD HAVE USED IT, AND USED IT RESPONSIBILY! JUST BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY DUPED BY THE EX, DOESN'T MEAN HE HAD ANY, AND I MEAN ANY RIGHT AT ALL TO GO AFTER THE DECEASED. THOUGHTLESS I'D SAY! HE NEVER EVER EVEN BOTHERED TO CONSIDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO POOR LITTLE GIRL IF THEY WERE CAUGHT! COLD HEARTED. HE DESERVES EVERYTHING HE GOT! I WISH THE DEATH PENALTY WAS NEVER TAKEN OFF THE TABLE! AN EYE FOR AN EYE! YET YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO LOOK DOWN ON OTHERS AND YOUR OWN FAMILY HAS A COLD-BLOODED KILLER IN THE FAMILY. I KNOW I DON'T. SO IF ANYONE SHOULD NOT JUDGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING IN LIFE, IT SHOULD BE YOU. YOU SOUND SO SELFISH. IT'S NO WONDER THIS KID TURNED OUT LIKE THIS. IT MUST RUN IN THE BLOOD. OH YEAH, YOU HAVE NONE, YOU'RE HEARTLESS. THE MARMO DESERVES BETTER! SO JUST KEEP YOUR STUPID COMMENTS TO YOURSELF, AS I TOO KNEW MATTHEW, AND YOUR FAMILY! RUTHLESS, ABSOLUTELY RUTHLESS!

Put emotions aside wrote:
All of you only think with emotions. Yes, this is very sad. I feel for Marmo, his family and friends and especially his daughter. I know Matthew -- I have known him since birth and still see and talk to him on a regular basis. You all have no idea what he is going through. He knows that he made a HUGE mistake, but it was just that a mistake, And he will live with that forever. He was tricked, but he is not blaming anyone for his mistakes. He has taken all the blame on himself for being nieve. And he is paying the price. He is not the "murderer" you all want to make him out to be. He is in jail for the rest of his life -- if he was that person, he would have no regard for anyone and would be involved in the riots and jail politics as he has nothing to lose now. But he refuses to play those games and to intentionally hurt any other human being, and has had to be put in protective custody because he he would not stab a guy or get involved in a black on white riot. Everything said in that trial and in the news is not "truth" so don't pretend to know the truth. We were not there and none of us will ever know the truth 100%.
Nugent

Lake Forest, CA

#193 Feb 3, 2013
Ok nameless I guess I understand what your saying , now on the otherhand I Dr ont agree with all of it what happened was wrong and should never of happened but it did can't take it back you have made comments about how heartless and cold he is and how bad his family is but you did not know them I mean really know them well . just like I did not know marmo or his family or the situation his little girl will suffer yes and its not fair in the least but if she has good family she will be just fine and she will have a great life filled with lots of love and joy despite what has happned . And before you go and get your self all twisted and your panties all knotted I'm not saying don't be mad, pssd off or what ever ut marmo is in a better place know better the n matt is and mat gets to re liv e it every day and matt will answer to GOD when his day comes ....... I don't know who you are or your connection to marmo if any at all but if there I'd a connection and you know his daughter my advise stop worrying about matt and spend time loving on his daughter tell her story's about her dad things like that it may make your heart a little softer and bring your life some joy I'm just saying
NAMELESS

Riverside, CA

#194 Feb 22, 2013
MY PANTIES ARE EXTREMELY FAR FROM BEING ALL KNOTTED UP! NO I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE VICTEM OR HIS FAMILY. BUT I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM! AND AS FAR AS MATTHEW HAVING TO ANSWER TO GOD, MATTHEW WILL NEVER EVEN GET THAT FAR! HE'S GOING DIRECTLY TO HELL! THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THIS COLD AND HEARTLESS ACT! FOR SUCH RELIGIOUS OF A FAMILY, CATHOLIC NO LESS, MATTHEW SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT ONE THE MAIN QUOTES FROM THE BIBLE IS,"THOU SHALL NOT KILL!" EVERYONE I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS CASE, THEY ALL WISH HE'S LOCKED UP AND SEES HIS DYING DAYS IN PRISON. HAVING TO LIVE WITH WHAT HE'S DONE EVERYDAY IS STILL GETTING OFF WAY TOO EASY. AND AS FOR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE POOR LITTLE GIRL, HER LIFE HAS BEEN TORN APART BECAUSE OF WHAT MATTHEW HAS DONE! SHE COULD HAVE ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD FROM HER FAMILY, BUT IT WILL NEVER COMPARE TO THE LOVE OF HER PARENTS (MOSTLY HER DAD). THERE'S NO GREATER LOVE. EITHER YOU WERE ALSO DEPRIVED OF PARENTS, ARE CLUELESS, OR ARE JUST STRAIGHT UP MEAN. I CAN'T IMAGINE MY LIFE WITHOUT MY PARENTS. AND AS A PARENT MYSELF, I CAN'T IMAGINE MY CHILD EVER HAVING TO GO THROUGH WHAT THAT POOR GIRL HAS AND WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE. I ALSO CAN'T COMPREHEND KILLING MY EX JUST FOR CUSTODY OR FOR ANYOTHER REASON FOR THAT MATTER! MY CHILD MEANS MORE TO ME THAN THAT! CHILD FIRST, ME SECOND! THATS THE WAY I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE. ALWAYS THINK OF THE CHILD FIRST AND FOREMOST! ONLY COLD-BLOODED PEOPLE BEHAVE THE WAY MATTHEW AND THE OTHERS DID. I WOULD BE ASHAMED IF MY CHILD EVER DID WHAT HE DID, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD ALSO BE THERE FOR HIM TOO! THEN AGAIN, I DIDN'T, HAVEN'T, AND WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT! MY CHILD WAS RAISED BETTER THAN THAT....HE WOULD NEVER KILL ANYONE....
Nugent wrote:
Ok nameless I guess I understand what your saying , now on the otherhand I Dr ont agree with all of it what happened was wrong and should never of happened but it did can't take it back you have made comments about how heartless and cold he is and how bad his family is but you did not know them I mean really know them well . just like I did not know marmo or his family or the situation his little girl will suffer yes and its not fair in the least but if she has good family she will be just fine and she will have a great life filled with lots of love and joy despite what has happned . And before you go and get your self all twisted and your panties all knotted I'm not saying don't be mad, pssd off or what ever ut marmo is in a better place know better the n matt is and mat gets to re liv e it every day and matt will answer to GOD when his day comes ....... I don't know who you are or your connection to marmo if any at all but if there I'd a connection and you know his daughter my advise stop worrying about matt and spend time loving on his daughter tell her story's about her dad things like that it may make your heart a little softer and bring your life some joy I'm just saying
Nugent

Lake Forest, CA

#195 Feb 22, 2013
I have parents as I think about it more I think you are holding way way too much stock in all this move on already get over it shit
NAMELESS

Riverside, CA

#196 Feb 26, 2013
SO I GUESS YOUR PARENTS ARE JUST FINE IF YOU WERE TO GET BLOWN AWAY? AND AS FOR THE TOERNER FAMILY, I DO KNOW THEM, I KNOW THEM WAY TOO WELL, UNFORTUNATELY! THEY COMPLETELY PURE EVIL, ALL OF THEM! THE WHOLE FAMILY JUST LOVES RUINING OR ATTEMPTING TO RUIN ALL OTHERS LIVES. WHO HAS GIVEN THEM THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE IN THIS WORLD WITH A MURDER IN CLOSE FAMILY? THEY ALL NEED A LESSON ON HOW TO DEAL AND APPRECIATE OTHERS. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL AND THINK WHATEVER THEY FEEL THINGS SHOULD BE, THAT IS THE WAY IT GOES. AND THIS RUTHLESS FAMILY WILL GO TO NO EXTENT TO SEE THAT IT'S DONE. SO YOU NEED TO GET A GRIP AND GET OVER IT. YOU'RE BEGINNING TO SOUND JUST AS FREAKING SICK AND DEMENTED AS THE TOERNERS. YOU ALL DESERVE EACHOTHER! JACKASS
Nugent wrote:
I have parents as I think about it more I think you are holding way way too much stock in all this move on already get over it shit
Nugent

United States

#197 Feb 26, 2013
See here's the funny thing about all of this in some post before this one your said your did jot know either side of this now you say that you know Matt's family so wit h is it do you ? Or don't you know any of the parties and on a nether point I also see some comedy in how mad you get when someone doesn't go along with .... Or believe in what you have to say about all this also on the same point you like to call people names and stamp labels on people do you even know every aspect of the story in what happened were you there ........ No ! You weren't and neither was I so again your holding way too much stock in this thing I mean for real there freaking murders evry ten seconds in the world .... Are you out there stomping your feet and waving your hand around and trying to get people to be mad at the man behind the gun what do you do with your time other than this get over it already your fuckin annoying and for fuck sake use your real name stop hiding behind nameless you got so much to say but your a coward what you can't throw a tantrum using your real name what you scared some one you know might read this and know how much of a weenie you are for real get over it already

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