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Man shoots himself outside of Owensboro Catholic church - The REAL Story Here

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Truth_Seeker

Centertown, KY

#1 Feb 4, 2011
Here is a link to the story:
http://www.14wfie.com/story/13967154/man-shoo...

But what you wont read on the news sites, is the real reason why this happened. The young man that did this, was molested by someone at the church during his youth. This tormented him and was the eventual cause of the shooting. I don't know why the news outlets aren't reporting the truth... they all make it sound like he was some sort of lone loser who killed himself. The fact of the matter is he was molested by someone at the Catholic church in Owensboro. Maybe they will report the truth at some point, but I doubt it. For some reason the Catholic church has so much power they are able to stop stories like this from coming out.
sadsad

Owensboro, KY

#2 Feb 4, 2011
owensboro is a very catholic town. it will all come out in the wash. Fr. Baer covered surely helped or suggested that he scrape it under the rug. yuck on them
Truth_Seeker

Centertown, KY

#3 Feb 4, 2011
From what I was told by someone who knew the young man, he left a suicide note behind that detailed what I have said here. He claimed this is why he was going to end his life, and decided to do it at the church. The truth should be told. Shame on whoever is covering up this part of the story.
Norman Bates

White House, TN

#5 Feb 4, 2011
I wonder which priest done it? all priests are pedophiles, http://www.priestsrapeboys.com/
Info

White Plains, KY

#6 Feb 4, 2011
Not sure what cover up you're talking about, truth seeker. This story, including a detailed description of his Facebook posting about abuse by priests, was on the front page of the Owensboro newspaper this morning.
sad

Owensboro, KY

#7 Feb 4, 2011
Fr.Freddy byrd
tmfuller21

Owensboro, KY

#8 Feb 4, 2011
He was an amazing person, a heart of gold, and even in his last hour he spent it telling his story and saying specifically that people needed to know so other children would not be hurt and that he could not stand for an organization that sweeps the abuse of children under the rug. He said that this did not change his relationship with god and that forgave them, he said his peace, now let him rest in peace. God bless you David, you were a beautiful person, your soul is free, your heart is light, theres no more pain.
This Is What Happens

Evansville, IN

#9 Feb 4, 2011
The Catholic Church does not havea problem with pedophiles. True pedophiles prey on LITTLE children, male and females, usually VERY young, like 5 and 6.

More than 90 % of the sex abuse victims in the Church were adolescent BOYS. This is properly called ephebophilia, NOT pedophilia. It is homosexual rape. The Catholic Church has ALWAYS said that men with these tendencies MUST NOT BE ORDAINED, but the liberal progressives in the eseminaries back in the fifties and sixties defied Rome and allowed them in; until they were POURING in. And now we see the fruit it has borne, this disobedience.

Good and holy men are scorned and harassed out of the priesthood, while the "Lavender Mafia" lays waste to good and holy parishes. Some estimates place the number of homosexual priests at over 50%....and the good and holy straight priests are warned to be careful about criticizing gays in the priesthood. Again, we see what fruit this disobedience has borne.

May this poor young man rest in peace, and may his family find comfort in the love a tender and loving God.
Norman Bates

White House, TN

#11 Feb 5, 2011
Westboro Baptist is gonna protest at his funeral.
Marie

Eddyville, KY

#12 Feb 5, 2011
This is just the saddest thing. The young man must have been so bright, idealistic, good, that he just could never reconcile a priest who preys on young boys with the image a priest wants to maintain. The two images are horribly contradictory.

I wonder when this young man was abused in Owensboro, if that indeed is the case...and if he or his family ever reported it...
If he kept it secret all these years, imagine the suffering!
Deepest condolences to family and friends. He is in heaven now.
Norman Bates

White House, TN

#13 Feb 5, 2011
Marie wrote:
This is just the saddest thing. The young man must have been so bright, idealistic, good, that he just could never reconcile a priest who preys on young boys with the image a priest wants to maintain. The two images are horribly contradictory.
I wonder when this young man was abused in Owensboro, if that indeed is the case...and if he or his family ever reported it...
If he kept it secret all these years, imagine the suffering!
Deepest condolences to family and friends. He is in heaven now.
sorry to bust your bubble but you dont go to heaven commiting suicide. his blood is on the priests hands who molested him.
rip david

United States

#14 Feb 5, 2011
His family knew. And he knew the difference between the priests, in his letter he thanked one for showing him what it was like to truly dedicate your life to god, one he forgave, and another he called an evil man. I've seen his full letter. Even in what would be a moment of despair for most he seemed to be completely level headed, he wanted to bring this to the surface because he felt like it was being pushed under the rug and he wanted to save other children from the torment he went through. He was an amazing guy, with a heart of gold, and his last words spoke volume to the kind hearted person he was.
Marie wrote:
This is just the saddest thing. The young man must have been so bright, idealistic, good, that he just could never reconcile a priest who preys on young boys with the image a priest wants to maintain. The two images are horribly contradictory.
I wonder when this young man was abused in Owensboro, if that indeed is the case...and if he or his family ever reported it...
If he kept it secret all these years, imagine the suffering!
Deepest condolences to family and friends. He is in heaven now.
Marie

Eddyville, KY

#15 Feb 5, 2011
Norman Bates wrote:
<quoted text>sorry to bust your bubble but you dont go to heaven commiting suicide. his blood is on the priests hands who molested him.
Oh, I believe in a just and loving God. God understands the excruciating pain that this young man was living with, and welcomed him home with open arms. In retrospect, it is apparent that God called him home, as a savior to children from sexual abuse by priests.

That old teaching by the Church about suicide being a mortal sin is as archaic as that old teaching about little unbaptized babies being in Limbo.

The Church just evaporated Limbo. What happened to all those innocent little babies?

Since: Jan 11

Richmond, KY

#16 Feb 5, 2011
Norman Bates wrote:
I wonder which priest done it? all priests are pedophiles, http://www.priestsrapeboys.com/
Not all of them are.
Marie

Eddyville, KY

#17 Feb 5, 2011
rip david wrote:
His family knew. And he knew the difference between the priests, in his letter he thanked one for showing him what it was like to truly dedicate your life to god, one he forgave, and another he called an evil man. I've seen his full letter. Even in what would be a moment of despair for most he seemed to be completely level headed, he wanted to bring this to the surface because he felt like it was being pushed under the rug and he wanted to save other children from the torment he went through. He was an amazing guy, with a heart of gold, and his last words spoke volume to the kind hearted person he was.<quoted text>
I wonder how old he was and if the family went to the Church to get help or if they tried to deal with it on their own...
For Catholics of years back, the idea of Priests as sexual molesters was incomprehensible (because they are so "holy"); now unfortunately we've come to see that the molestation is common, possibly because many priests are so young when they go to the Seminary and probably are preyed upon by older priests who were preyed upon as boys...and so it continues...
Norman Bates

White House, TN

#18 Feb 5, 2011
Marie wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I believe in a just and loving God. God understands the excruciating pain that this young man was living with, and welcomed him home with open arms. In retrospect, it is apparent that God called him home, as a savior to children from sexual abuse by priests.
That old teaching by the Church about suicide being a mortal sin is as archaic as that old teaching about little unbaptized babies being in Limbo.
The Church just evaporated Limbo. What happened to all those innocent little babies?
you cant go to heaven with unforgiven sin suicide is murder you cant repent after your dead its too late when your dead.
notice

Owensboro, KY

#19 Feb 5, 2011
Norman Bates wrote:
<quoted text>you cant go to heaven with unforgiven sin suicide is murder you cant repent after your dead its too late when your dead.
there is something called Gods mercy that often times escapes human understanding
tmfuller21

Owensboro, KY

#20 Feb 5, 2011
I know that there was one that he made reference to as an evil man, and that one is in Minnosota, where he went to college, the other one that he forgave is here in town and Im almost certain at the church, but Im not for certain what he "forgave" him for, Im sure that it will come out in the wash, hopefully, not from the church, but hopefully from his family, his friends, and from other victims, Im sure there are more, Im positive of it. If you could have read his words, even in what was a desperate hour for most his words were beautiful and composed, concern for others, not blaming but simply giving enough info to raise concern to protect other children. He told us to smile and not to cry, that most of his life he had to smile when he really wanted to cry, and that he understood that we wanted to cry but for us to understand that he was at peace now, that he forgave, and he was ready to go home. He was an amazing person, I can not put into words.
Marie wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder how old he was and if the family went to the Church to get help or if they tried to deal with it on their own...
For Catholics of years back, the idea of Priests as sexual molesters was incomprehensible (because they are so "holy"); now unfortunately we've come to see that the molestation is common, possibly because many priests are so young when they go to the Seminary and probably are preyed upon by older priests who were preyed upon as boys...and so it continues...
tmfuller21

Owensboro, KY

#21 Feb 5, 2011
Not that its any of your business, but he didnt die immediately, he didn't pass until almost 12 hours later, he was very close to his god, and had plenty of time to repent.
Norman Bates wrote:
<quoted text>you cant go to heaven with unforgiven sin suicide is murder you cant repent after your dead its too late when your dead.
Marie

Eddyville, KY

#22 Feb 5, 2011
tmfuller21 wrote:
I know that there was one that he made reference to as an evil man, and that one is in Minnosota, where he went to college, the other one that he forgave is here in town and Im almost certain at the church, but Im not for certain what he "forgave" him for, Im sure that it will come out in the wash, hopefully, not from the church, but hopefully from his family, his friends, and from other victims, Im sure there are more, Im positive of it. If you could have read his words, even in what was a desperate hour for most his words were beautiful and composed, concern for others, not blaming but simply giving enough info to raise concern to protect other children. He told us to smile and not to cry, that most of his life he had to smile when he really wanted to cry, and that he understood that we wanted to cry but for us to understand that he was at peace now, that he forgave, and he was ready to go home. He was an amazing person, I can not put into words.<quoted text>
Touches my heart...but also my anger if there are more victims and that diocese has covered up for years.
If honesty, love, value of the children had been at the forefront the Church could have and would have prevented so much suffering.

Owensboro Diocese needs to come clean; I'm not sure that their investigating David's molestation--way after the fact--is honest attempt. Are they going to report any cover-up by previous bishops? Of course not!
Sorry to interject cynicism into a sacred moment of grieving, and I do mean that. David's soul is resting with God. But let's do spare more families from having to go through this.

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