Owensboro smoking ban
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olddog

Morgantown, KY

#1 Jul 2, 2014
Good, now I won't have to sit by myself when I go to Malone's Roca Bar. Everybody always wants to sit in the bar or outside so they can smoke. Same thing with the Mexican joint, I want to sit inside and watch tv where there are always plenty of tables, but we always have to sit outside where it's always crowded and there's no tv. Guess that really won't be a prob though, since they're closing.
Me too

United States

#2 Jul 3, 2014
I'm so glad Owensboro will be truly a smoke free community! I visit bars because I enjoy playing some pool. The non smokers are in the majority but the ones that do smoke fills it up with their second hand smoke. I know the bar owners will cry "oh my business will die". I don't believe it, I think it would be a way to expand their market.
American Idea

Owensboro, KY

#3 Jul 3, 2014
Smoking policies should be based on whatever the owner of the establishment wants for his/her business. Plain and simple.
hmmm

San Mateo, CA

#4 Jul 3, 2014
From what I was reading it would only apply to public places, parks and outdoor eating areas, not privately owned businesses such as bars.

Since: May 14

Madisonville, KY

#6 Jul 3, 2014
Can we ban obese people also??
Wow

Owensboro, KY

#9 Jul 3, 2014
Me too wrote:
I'm so glad Owensboro will be truly a smoke free community! I visit bars because I enjoy playing some pool. The non smokers are in the majority but the ones that do smoke fills it up with their second hand smoke. I know the bar owners will cry "oh my business will die". I don't believe it, I think it would be a way to expand their market.
Are you saying Non smokers are the majority in bars? Actually people who don't generally smoke do while they are drinking. As far as the ban it doesn't apply to bars, so maybe you should just go buy yourself a pool table. This ban is so stupid. If the City wants to ban smoking in the parks and at on City Property then alcohol should be banned as well. They should also ban people who don't bathe before coming out in public, people who don't wear clothes that cover their 300 pound bodies, people who don't properly discipline their children so others can enjoy City events and just being out in public as a whole. So maybe you and the person who gets left alone at Maloney's should probably hook up so you can both cry together about being left out while others enjoy themselves at the bar or outside at restaurants. The only ban for smoking that the Mayor is trying to pass is at the parks and on City Property. Next time you should both try reading what the proposed issue really is from now on instead of trying to make it something more!
Just sayin

United States

#10 Jul 3, 2014
I read the article in the Messenger and it said "The city ordinance will ban smoking in all establishments open to the public." I don't think that means just city property.
BooHoo

AOL

#14 Jul 4, 2014
Wow wrote:
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This ban is so stupid. If the City wants to ban smoking in the parks and at on City Property then alcohol should be banned as well. They should also ban people who don't bathe before coming out in public, people who don't wear clothes that cover their 300 pound bodies, people who don't properly discipline their children so others can enjoy City events and just being out in public as a whole.
I wholeheartedly agree. I try to be respectful of non-smokers and walk off in a corner by myself to smoke in public events, or use an e-cig.
However, I hear some places even want to bad the e-cig, how utterly stupid is that one?
No smoke just water vapors...and they want to ban that??? That's called dictatorship in a nutshell...
It only fair to have designated smoking areas, after all, I pay city taxes as well as non-smokers.
Ole Hitler also liked to take away rights from the ones he considered undesirable. We've harped on smokers long enough, time to give them a rest and start on people who drink beer, people who drink kool-aid, fat people, skinny people, poor people, old people, young people, disabled people and anybody else we think doesn't deserve any rights.
Me too

United States

#15 Jul 4, 2014
Wow wrote:
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Are you saying Non smokers are the majority in bars? Actually people who don't generally smoke do while they are drinking. As far as the ban it doesn't apply to bars, so maybe you should just go buy yourself a pool table. This ban is so stupid. If the City wants to ban smoking in the parks and at on City Property then alcohol should be banned as well. They should also ban people who don't bathe before coming out in public, people who don't wear clothes that cover their 300 pound bodies, people who don't properly discipline their children so others can enjoy City events and just being out in public as a whole. So maybe you and the person who gets left alone at Maloney's should probably hook up so you can both cry together about being left out while others enjoy themselves at the bar or outside at restaurants. The only ban for smoking that the Mayor is trying to pass is at the parks and on City Property. Next time you should both try reading what the proposed issue really is from now on instead of trying to make it something more!
Your question; Are you saying Non Smokers are the majority in bars?
My answer. Yes

Your statement; The only ban for smoking that the Mayor is trying to pass is at the parks and on City Property.

My response; No, any business that is open to the public.
Wow

Owensboro, KY

#17 Jul 4, 2014
Me too wrote:
<quoted text>Your question; Are you saying Non Smokers are the majority in bars?
My answer. Yes

Your statement; The only ban for smoking that the Mayor is trying to pass is at the parks and on City Property.

My response; No, any business that is open to the public.
I did some research for you on the statistics of non smoking vs people who smoke that go out to bars and guess what 70% of people who that frequent these places are SMOKERS! So you seem to be the minority. Also as far as the article go back and read it again. Now another little piece of info for you: Yes I smoke but I respect others who don't. I don't smoke around children, I don't smoke around my friends or family that don't smoke, and I'm sick and tired of people like you labeling people who do smoke. I think that there should be designated smoking areas for people who do smoke. I don't think it should be right in the front door of any establishment due to the people who don't smoke, but unfortunately that's where they place the ash tray so instead of littering I put my cigarette out in one of those ashtrays. As far as the new park downtown that was paid for with my and other smokers tax dollars. Like I said I would never blow smoke into a child's face or anyone else's even yours but that's just me. Lots of people smoke but don't group me in with the ones who don't have respect for others. Now as far as the E-Cig which instead of smoke releases water vapor you non-smokers don't like that either. I'm sure you are so perfect and never do anything that offends others right? And to the other person who responded about the smell of smoke I would rather smell a cigarette than your overpowering cologne or perfume and your body odor! If it weren't for having a family member's paver at The Shelton Memorial I wouldn't go down there anyway. You can't go to Friday after 5 without being around a bunch of drunks and kids that aren't supervised by their parents.
Wow

Owensboro, KY

#18 Jul 4, 2014
American Idea wrote:
Smoking policies should be based on whatever the owner of the establishment wants for his/her business. Plain and simple.
I agree with you 100%!
Wow

Owensboro, KY

#19 Jul 4, 2014
non smoker wrote:
Smokers are the rudest, nastiest, selfish , self centered people I have ever meet. All of you deserve health problems with your noxious weed. How would you like to smell a nasty fart every few minutes right on your nose? You stinking people.
So you must be perfect right? Take a long look in the mirror because you non-smokers are rude, self centered, and obviously insecure in your own self or you wouldn't be putting everyone else down because they smoke and you don't. Put on some more of your nasty smelling perfume and your five pounds of make up. And as far as gas you probably do that anyway and that's why it smells so bad downtown and right before the 231 offramp on the bypass.
Me too

United States

#20 Jul 5, 2014
Wow wrote:
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I did some research for you on the statistics of non smoking vs people who smoke that go out to bars and guess what 70% of people who that frequent these places are SMOKERS! So you seem to be the minority. Also as far as the article go back and read it again. Now another little piece of info for you: Yes I smoke but I respect others who don't. I don't smoke around children, I don't smoke around my friends or family that don't smoke, and I'm sick and tired of people like you labeling people who do smoke. I think that there should be designated smoking areas for people who do smoke. I don't think it should be right in the front door of any establishment due to the people who don't smoke, but unfortunately that's where they place the ash tray so instead of littering I put my cigarette out in one of those ashtrays. As far as the new park downtown that was paid for with my and other smokers tax dollars. Like I said I would never blow smoke into a child's face or anyone else's even yours but that's just me. Lots of people smoke but don't group me in with the ones who don't have respect for others. Now as far as the E-Cig which instead of smoke releases water vapor you non-smokers don't like that either. I'm sure you are so perfect and never do anything that offends others right? And to the other person who responded about the smell of smoke I would rather smell a cigarette than your overpowering cologne or perfume and your body odor! If it weren't for having a family member's paver at The Shelton Memorial I wouldn't go down there anyway. You can't go to Friday after 5 without being around a bunch of drunks and kids that aren't supervised by their parents.
I never said “if a person smokes they are a bad person”. Some of my friends smoke and have tried to quit, some with success and some not. I think most people would like to stop. This is not about you smoking, perfume or bad parents but the effects of 2nd hand smoke on those that don’t. Second hand smoking increases the risk of breast cancer, heart disease, lung cancer and the list could go on.

Owensboro should join these other cities and counties that have a 100% smoking ban in all public places (including bars). Ashland, Bardstown, Bowling Green, Campbellsville, Corbin, Danville, Elizabethtown, Georgetown, London, Manchester, Morehead, Paducah, Prestonburg, Radcliff, Somerset, Williamsburg, Lexington (include all Fayette County), Louisville (including all Jefferson County and Churchill Downs), plus Clark County, Letcher County, plus Hardin County, plus Madison County.

All the citizens in Daviess County that has any type of insurance is paying for the park downtown. Smokers and non smokers.

I would be interested in the source of your research if you would be willing to share.
Wow

Owensboro, KY

#21 Jul 6, 2014
Me too wrote:
<quoted text>I never said “if a person smokes they are a bad person”. Some of my friends smoke and have tried to quit, some with success and some not. I think most people would like to stop. This is not about you smoking, perfume or bad parents but the effects of 2nd hand smoke on those that don’t. Second hand smoking increases the risk of breast cancer, heart disease, lung cancer and the list could go on.

Owensboro should join these other cities and counties that have a 100% smoking ban in all public places (including bars). Ashland, Bardstown, Bowling Green, Campbellsville, Corbin, Danville, Elizabethtown, Georgetown, London, Manchester, Morehead, Paducah, Prestonburg, Radcliff, Somerset, Williamsburg, Lexington (include all Fayette County), Louisville (including all Jefferson County and Churchill Downs), plus Clark County, Letcher County, plus Hardin County, plus Madison County.

All the citizens in Daviess County that has any type of insurance is paying for the park downtown. Smokers and non smokers.

I would be interested in the source of your research if you would be willing to share.
I started my research with the American Cancer Society and it lead me to another site called Tobaccocontrol.org . Also the studies that have been done are called scientific consensus. Also there are many other things that cause the same cancers: Car emissions, factory pollution, weather (rain), and sadly even the stuff that is put in foods and fragrances. I don't know where you got your sources but we were in Letcher County within in the last few months and I smoked in public ( not around people because I don't believe that's appropriate) and saw others smoking as well. Also we stopped in Campbellsville, Bowling Green, and Elizabethtown and never saw anything about no smoking in public or in a park. The point I'm trying to make is we are all taxpayers and and paid for all those city improvements. Instead of the city trying to control smoking there are many other issues that need to be addressed first. Especially when you see some of the City Officials smoking in these places as well.
Me too

United States

#22 Jul 6, 2014
Wow wrote:
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I started my research with the American Cancer Society and it lead me to another site called Tobaccocontrol.org . Also the studies that have been done are called scientific consensus. Also there are many other things that cause the same cancers: Car emissions, factory pollution, weather (rain), and sadly even the stuff that is put in foods and fragrances. I don't know where you got your sources but we were in Letcher County within in the last few months and I smoked in public ( not around people because I don't believe that's appropriate) and saw others smoking as well. Also we stopped in Campbellsville, Bowling Green, and Elizabethtown and never saw anything about no smoking in public or in a park. The point I'm trying to make is we are all taxpayers and and paid for all those city improvements. Instead of the city trying to control smoking there are many other issues that need to be addressed first. Especially when you see some of the City Officials smoking in these places as well.
I agree that there are many other things that cause cancer and some of it is just bad luck. When I spoke of 100% smoke free I was mainly speaking of enclosed public places.

If you would like to read more about different the smoking bans in the towns you visited here is the link from University of Ky.

http://www.mc.uky.edu/tobaccopolicy/Ordinance...
BooHoo

AOL

#23 Jul 7, 2014
I think the smokers, including myself, should ban together and refuse to attend any event, especially those geared to making money, if designated smoking areas are not available.
Why should I spend my money there if they don't offer designated areas to smoke.
Smokey the Bear

Owensboro, KY

#24 Jul 7, 2014
You tell em!
Frank

Morgantown, KY

#25 Jul 8, 2014
BooHoo, you have it right. Since the restaurant smoking ban took effect, I've not only saved quite a bit of money, I've also grown closer with my circle of friends and have more fun. Instead of going out to eat, we take turns hosting cookouts, tailgate parties, and sometimes work parties. We save money, have fun, and feel more cormfortable in each others' homes (which means we crash out on sofas for a while if we need to with no worries). Plus, we smoke with no hassles; and although I don't partake, I think some of my friends might even smoke a little something they wouldn't dare smoke downtown.
Sotrue

United States

#26 Jul 8, 2014
Wow wrote:
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Are you saying Non smokers are the majority in bars? Actually people who don't generally smoke do while they are drinking. As far as the ban it doesn't apply to bars, so maybe you should just go buy yourself a pool table. This ban is so stupid. If the City wants to ban smoking in the parks and at on City Property then alcohol should be banned as well. They should also ban people who don't bathe before coming out in public, people who don't wear clothes that cover their 300 pound bodies, people who don't properly discipline their children so others can enjoy City events and just being out in public as a whole. So maybe you and the person who gets left alone at Maloney's should probably hook up so you can both cry together about being left out while others enjoy themselves at the bar or outside at restaurants. The only ban for smoking that the Mayor is trying to pass is at the parks and on City Property. Next time you should both try reading what the proposed issue really is from now on instead of trying to make it something more!
i couldn't agree more
Tessie

Owensboro, KY

#27 Jul 8, 2014
We need a cessation program....

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