Windyhollow speedway improvements
Dirt lover

United States

#36 Sep 12, 2013
I would not mind at all to pay more if it ment a safer track! I pay way more than that to go to tri state speedway but the racing is much better there and the track is in great condition!!
well

United States

#39 Sep 12, 2013
People will say they would much rather pay more for safety but just as soon as they raise the price and the newness of the tragedy wears off they're just gonna start growling about having to pay it.
information

Richmond, KY

#40 Sep 12, 2013
For everyone's info some of the fence has been replaced because my fiance built it and now they are fixing the repairs from the incident I'm just saying a better fence has nothing to do with it if a car wants to go through it at a fast speed lemme tell you any car could go through fence so people that are saying there should be a better fence damn right there should be but if people are told to stay off then they should stay off as well for there safety I don't even think nothing should be put on topix about what happened its horrible and I imagine the family wanna grieve in peace
seek and destroy

Owensboro, KY

#41 Sep 12, 2013
information wrote:
For everyone's info some of the fence has been replaced because my fiance built it and now they are fixing the repairs from the incident I'm just saying a better fence has nothing to do with it if a car wants to go through it at a fast speed lemme tell you any car could go through fence so people that are saying there should be a better fence damn right there should be but if people are told to stay off then they should stay off as well for there safety I don't even think nothing should be put on topix about what happened its horrible and I imagine the family wanna grieve in peace
Honestly, they need to move the stands back quite a bit, put up a few more signs that say "stay back". Also, the people working at the track need to keep telling people to stand back or move off of the fence. After repeatedly telling someone to move then they have the option to throw them out. If you can't obey the rules, you don't need to be at the track. I hate that Ryan had to die for everyone to realize how quick death can happen out there. I pray for his family and friends and I, myself have been mourning his loss. It's terrible when things like this happen in the racing community.

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Since: Nov 11

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#42 Sep 12, 2013
information wrote:
For everyone's info some of the fence has been replaced because my fiance built it and now they are fixing the repairs from the incident I'm just saying a better fence has nothing to do with it if a car wants to go through it at a fast speed lemme tell you any car could go through fence so people that are saying there should be a better fence damn right there should be but if people are told to stay off then they should stay off as well for there safety I don't even think nothing should be put on topix about what happened its horrible and I imagine the family wanna grieve in peace
Watch more NASCAR. I see fencing holding back cars often. Cars that are moving at much higher speeds. So yes a better fence would be a huge help.
Ghost

United States

#43 Sep 12, 2013
information wrote:
For everyone's info some of the fence has been replaced because my fiance built it and now they are fixing the repairs from the incident I'm just saying a better fence has nothing to do with it if a car wants to go through it at a fast speed lemme tell you any car could go through fence so people that are saying there should be a better fence damn right there should be but if people are told to stay off then they should stay off as well for there safety I don't even think nothing should be put on topix about what happened its horrible and I imagine the family wanna grieve in peace
I agree that people should stay off the fence. They should only have to be warned once then thrown out. However a stronger fence does need to be implemented. And I am sorry you find the fact that people are discussing this offensive, but if it isn't brought to peoples attention then nothing will change. I keep his family in my thoughts and prayers. If anything comes of this it should be to make the track owners and leasee's more aware of the dangers and what needs to be done to prevent anything so tragic from happening again.
Could be

Richmond, KY

#44 Sep 12, 2013
It could be fixed by simply roping or fencing the area off.
hmmmm

United States

#45 Sep 12, 2013
information wrote:
For everyone's info some of the fence has been replaced because my fiance built it and now they are fixing the repairs from the incident I'm just saying a better fence has nothing to do with it if a car wants to go through it at a fast speed lemme tell you any car could go through fence so people that are saying there should be a better fence damn right there should be but if people are told to stay off then they should stay off as well for there safety I don't even think nothing should be put on topix about what happened its horrible and I imagine the family wanna grieve in peace
1) I wouldn't be on here bragging about my fiance building the fence. It failed once, now they are letting him rebuild. WOW guess the saying.g is right about the cheap owners. "You get what you pay for"
2) how about you keep your grill shut about how people should stay off the fence after being told to stay off, that maybe true but Ian sure family does not want to here your 2 cents worth on that.
3) you want to complain about topix, you sure are keeping it hot. YOU PROBABLY started the forum.
RaceFan

Owensboro, KY

#46 Sep 13, 2013
I've been attending races for 35 years and Windy Hollow in its current state is the most dangerous track I've ever attended. The wall in turn 3 and 4 is not safe for the drivers. The stands are too close to the track. The fence can barely hold itself up and certainly can't stop a car from going through it. The stands are a hazard to anyone sitting on them or trying to navigate their way through holes and patchwork to find a seat that they feel won't collapse below them. The place is unprofessional all the way around, from the sleeveless officials to the condition of the track and the stands. It's been an accident waiting to happen for years. All this saying we assume the risk is a complete cop-out and a delusion. We assume certain risks when we race or attend races, that's true, but we also assume a certain level of safety as well and Windy Hollow's condition raises those risks to an unacceptable level. When you race or attend a race at Windy Hollow it's no longer just a possibility something tragic could unfold, it's a probability.
hmm

Russellville, KY

#47 Sep 13, 2013
RaceFan wrote:
I've been attending races for 35 years and Windy Hollow in its current state is the most dangerous track I've ever attended. The wall in turn 3 and 4 is not safe for the drivers. The stands are too close to the track. The fence can barely hold itself up and certainly can't stop a car from going through it. The stands are a hazard to anyone sitting on them or trying to navigate their way through holes and patchwork to find a seat that they feel won't collapse below them. The place is unprofessional all the way around, from the sleeveless officials to the condition of the track and the stands. It's been an accident waiting to happen for years. All this saying we assume the risk is a complete cop-out and a delusion. We assume certain risks when we race or attend races, that's true, but we also assume a certain level of safety as well and Windy Hollow's condition raises those risks to an unacceptable level. When you race or attend a race at Windy Hollow it's no longer just a possibility something tragic could unfold, it's a probability.
At some point, everyone complaining about safety or lack of, needs to take some accountability for themselves. If you go somewhere, and don't feel safe, LEAVE. That simple. I have been going to WHS for 30 plus years, as well a multitude of other tracks. There is a reason people continue to go there and love it. And yes, the drivers, families and fans know the risks. While we never imagine something this tragic will happen, we know it can. ANYWHERE ! There are guidelines every track are required to go by outlined by insurances that have to be met. WHS has done that and in some areas exceeded them.
RaceFan

Owensboro, KY

#48 Sep 13, 2013
I'm not responsible for hosting races and selling tickets to fans in an unsafe environment. I haven't gone to Windy Hollow this year because of the dangers I recognize there. What areas have been exceeded? It's a relic of what the place used to be. And no, what happened to Ryan there can't happen anyway. That's the point. The safety measures are inadequate. The enforcement of the little safety measures there is incompetent. It doesn't take a safety expert to take one look in any direction at Windy Hollow and see concerns. I could care less about driver safety. They all know what they're getting into and accept the conditions of the track when they leave the pit area. But not every fan that buys a ticket to see some local racing knows that they're risking their lives with a cheap ticket and a box of popcorn. Every lap turned there is a danger to the fans and it's that simple. You can gloss over that all you want but it's true. The track is barely safe enough to host dog races.
hmmmm

United States

#49 Sep 13, 2013
RaceFan wrote:
I've been attending races for 35 years and Windy Hollow in its current state is the most dangerous track I've ever attended. The wall in turn 3 and 4 is not safe for the drivers. The stands are too close to the track. The fence can barely hold itself up and certainly can't stop a car from going through it. The stands are a hazard to anyone sitting on them or trying to navigate their way through holes and patchwork to find a seat that they feel won't collapse below them. The place is unprofessional all the way around, from the sleeveless officials to the condition of the track and the stands. It's been an accident waiting to happen for years. All this saying we assume the risk is a complete cop-out and a delusion. We assume certain risks when we race or attend races, that's true, but we also assume a certain level of safety as well and Windy Hollow's condition raises those risks to an unacceptable level. When you race or attend a race at Windy Hollow it's no longer just a possibility something tragic could unfold, it's a probability.
Well said!!!!!
Your exactly right.
We go there for family fun, we shouldn't have to worry if a brick is gonna fly up and hit our kids, or if a car is goi.g to come over the wall and thru a fence that is standing on imagination. Its sad.
We love racing that's why we keep going back, they should care enough for the fans to keep them safe.
Ghost

United States

#50 Sep 13, 2013
hmm wrote:
<quoted text>
At some point, everyone complaining about safety or lack of, needs to take some accountability for themselves. If you go somewhere, and don't feel safe, LEAVE. That simple. I have been going to WHS for 30 plus years, as well a multitude of other tracks. There is a reason people continue to go there and love it. And yes, the drivers, families and fans know the risks. While we never imagine something this tragic will happen, we know it can. ANYWHERE ! There are guidelines every track are required to go by outlined by insurances that have to be met. WHS has done that and in some areas exceeded them.
Exceeded?!?!?! Pssshh!!! Exceedingly dangerous. And the only reason people keep going back is because they are looking to have something inexpensive to do with their family. And Windy is one of the top weekly options. Unfortunately sometimes it can be an expensive decision. Yes most are aware of the risks, however the risks are getting to be too high. Like I said the only thing that track exceeds in is danger.
Dirt lover

United States

#51 Sep 13, 2013
I think it's horrible that it took Ryan's tragic death to shine light on the safety issues at windy hollow! Well I for one am not gonna just sit back and let the safety of our family and children take the back burner! I will personally take it upon myself to see that anyone who will listen know about the safety issues at the track I will push that something should be done! At some point the sport of racing needs to take the back burner to safety! If everyone decided that there safety was more important than racing I bet the owners and lease holders would start to make more improvements! Because those bleachers would be empty! The media is very powerful and once they start on you they won't stop!
Gosh

United States

#52 Sep 13, 2013
I have an idea...... Don't like it don't go! If you're scared don't go! If you feel you are in danger don't go! If you feel your family is in danger don't go! It's SIMPLE!! Yeah I am a super genius!! Thank me later!!
Dirt lover

United States

#53 Sep 13, 2013
That's a great attitude to have good thing everyone don't think like you or that track would be bull dozed! I payed that track enough f*c*king money in pit passes I can voice my concerns! And trust me I will!
Gosh

United States

#54 Sep 14, 2013
Btw, you can always feel safe at KMS!!
former fan

Owensboro, KY

#55 Sep 14, 2013
Shut this place down! It has been a danger for years!
Ghost

United States

#56 Sep 14, 2013
Gosh wrote:
I have an idea...... Don't like it don't go! If you're scared don't go! If you feel you are in danger don't go! If you feel your family is in danger don't go! It's SIMPLE!! Yeah I am a super genius!! Thank me later!!
So you are condoning all the faulty safety practices? So you would be okay with someone you care about being injured? Assuming you have family that go there, and are "okay" with the safety threats, say they get seriously injured. You then would still be sitting there saying just leave the track alone? Don't think so. And KMS is not dirt racing, maybe some people don't like asphalt.... ever think of that? Most likely not. And Genius you are not. The only thing I am going to thank you for is justifying my beliefs that morons are plentiful.
Gosh

United States

#57 Sep 14, 2013
I was over my friends house helping his older brother work on his car. It was a hot summer day and my friend was not at home at the time. When we finished we were sitting just chatting away when he asked if I want to look at some porn mags. What 16 year old boy would say no. After a few he could see that I was getting hard and asked if I wanted to comapare c0cks. I said sure and took my shorts off. He was much bigger than me and he then asked if I wanted a bj. Next thing were going at each other. I didn't last as long as he did!!!

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