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ttt

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May 13, 2013
 
If a dad is paying child support does that automatically give him the right to see his kid? Even if he has extremely bad anger problems and has been abusive with the mom.
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May 14, 2013
 
No, child support and visitation do NOT go hand in hand. You have to prove that he shouldn't have visitation to a judge though.
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#3
May 14, 2013
 
Just me is right but if you feel that he is a danger to your child you need to petition the court to stop visitation or at the very least have supervised visitations. Until you do that there is nothing you can legally do to stop him from seeing his child.
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May 14, 2013
 
How would I prove that if I've never called the cops on him for it?
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May 14, 2013
 
Past criminial records of violent nature or just dont physically allow him to see the children and eventually he will show his anger enough to warrant the issue.
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May 14, 2013
 

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Sounds like a bunch of shit to me , just because the guy may have anger towards a mother doesn't mean he would towards his child . My husband is awesome with my daughter even though he had some anger issues with his ex and they use to push each other . That doesn't make them all of a sudden abusive . Sounds like a ex that has been dumped and trying to use a child as a weapon .
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May 14, 2013
 
Julie wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of shit to me , just because the guy may have anger towards a mother doesn't mean he would towards his child . My husband is awesome with my daughter even though he had some anger issues with his ex and they use to push each other . That doesn't make them all of a sudden abusive . Sounds like a ex that has been dumped and trying to use a child as a weapon .
Actually, sweetie, no. I left him because I walked in the house and my kid had shit running all down his legs screaming and crying in the middle of the floor while his dad was yelling at him. Thanks for the input though.
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May 14, 2013
 

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Input is what you were asking for if I'am not mistaken . Welcome ;)
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May 15, 2013
 
ttt wrote:
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Actually, sweetie, no. I left him because I walked in the house and my kid had shit running all down his legs screaming and crying in the middle of the floor while his dad was yelling at him. Thanks for the input though.
Did you atleast take pictures of this incident (or any others)? Unless there is physical abuse that leaves behind bruises, broken bones, etc, it's going to be hard to prove this isn't just a scorned ex making up stories (I'm NOT saying you are). Your best bet is to get a case started with child services. Once they do their investigation they will decide whether or not to pursue supervised visitation. But be prepared to be retaliated against because 80% of the people who have child services called on them retaliate in one form or another (this could help your case too). I would contact child services to start a case (or add to a file if he's already in the system). Then, as a custodial parent, if you feel your child is in danger, you have a right to keep him from visitation (but be prepared to prove it). It will be his responsibility to prove he should have it. But he will probably stop child support so be prepared for that, even though he can't. Then you can contact the child support office and report him as non payment. Good luck hun!
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May 15, 2013
 

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Visitation is the CHILD's right. Every child has a right to have a relationship with each of its parents, free from the coercion so often present when the parents are feuding with each other. It is shocking to see how many women who consider themselves "good" mothers are itching to cut off visitation the minute they aren't getting "their" money. They are willing to hurt their child and deprive their child of its relationship with the other parent, just to spite and hurt that other parent. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

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#11
May 15, 2013
 
My ex is a very abusive Meth addict. And I still let her see OUR children. Cause I believe the children should know both parents, but I do get upset when she gives them candy and cokes all day long and their strung out. I speak my peace it upsets me but I still don't keep them from their mother.....and I do make sure there's no drugs and she's been clean for the moment. Only called child services once...but that's when she was
Wacked out...and threatened me in front of dozens of people and they called the law....but she blamed me for pursuing it.....but safety is most priority of your children. Never use your children against one another the world is bad enough to have kids raised in violent households to would be unjustly to the children ......just do the fight thing not for your gain.....but for the kids....ty....much love.
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May 16, 2013
 

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Pearl wrote:
Visitation is the CHILD's right. Every child has a right to have a relationship with each of its parents, free from the coercion so often present when the parents are feuding with each other. It is shocking to see how many women who consider themselves "good" mothers are itching to cut off visitation the minute they aren't getting "their" money. They are willing to hurt their child and deprive their child of its relationship with the other parent, just to spite and hurt that other parent. Selfish, selfish, selfish.
Though I agree with why you've said, I'd like to add that it is also a child's right to refuse visitation. This should be documented on every occasion...there is a reason the child doesn't want to go
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May 16, 2013
 

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Scooby wrote:
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Though I agree with why you've said, I'd like to add that it is also a child's right to refuse visitation. This should be documented on every occasion...there is a reason the child doesn't want to go
I might add it isn't up to the child if they go to the visiting parents home . It's up to the guardian of the child or social services to prove the home is unfit .
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May 16, 2013
 
Julie wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of shit to me , just because the guy may have anger towards a mother doesn't mean he would towards his child . My husband is awesome with my daughter even though he had some anger issues with his ex and they use to push each other . That doesn't make them all of a sudden abusive . Sounds like a ex that has been dumped and trying to use a child as a weapon .
If your man has been violent towards a woman, why would you think it's a good idea to trust him with children?
You're extremely short-sighted.
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Let me say this though, blood doesn't mean shit. Anyone jackass can get a woman pregnant, it's not a hard thing to do. Your kid's better off with one parent if you worry about his safety with the other "parent".
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May 17, 2013
 
Pearl wrote:
Visitation is the CHILD's right. Every child has a right to have a relationship with each of its parents, free from the coercion so often present when the parents are feuding with each other. It is shocking to see how many women who consider themselves "good" mothers are itching to cut off visitation the minute they aren't getting "their" money. They are willing to hurt their child and deprive their child of its relationship with the other parent, just to spite and hurt that other parent. Selfish, selfish, selfish.
For starters she said it had nothing to do with his paying child support, because he was paying. So your little rant is ridiculous. Furthermore, a CHILD deserves to be around people who are healthy for them to be around. An abusive prick is not healthy and will eventually become abusive towards their child. Donating some sperm only helps create the child, it's doesn't make you a fit parent.
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May 17, 2013
 
Shaggy wrote:
<quoted text> I might add it isn't up to the child if they go to the visiting parents home . It's up to the guardian of the child or social services to prove the home is unfit .
Incorrect. The child can refuse to visit the parent. Anyone in this situation is encouraged to have as much documentation as possible. The child is refusing for a reason, usually fear of being alone with the non-custodial parent. Get your child into therapy so the child has someone else besides the custodial parent on their side to fight for them in court. Children are not some possession you can simply demand access to. If more children were actually put first and kept from idiot breeders who look at them as property then we would have healthier, happier, more stable kids running around.
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May 19, 2013
 
Too many custodial parents talk so bad about the noncustodial parent tht the child loses respect for the noncustodial parent. It's sad really.
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May 19, 2013
 
I never talk bad about him in front of my kid.. I told him if he got help with his anger and all his problems he has then I would let him see our son again but he said there's no point in that. So I guess he don't want to see him too bad. I don't want my son to hate him, but he's only one and already cries when his dad tries holding him. To me, that shows me something.
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May 19, 2013
 
velma wrote:
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Incorrect. The child can refuse to visit the parent. Anyone in this situation is encouraged to have as much documentation as possible. The child is refusing for a reason, usually fear of being alone with the non-custodial parent. Get your child into therapy so the child has someone else besides the custodial parent on their side to fight for them in court. Children are not some possession you can simply demand access to. If more children were actually put first and kept from idiot breeders who look at them as property then we would have healthier, happier, more stable kids running around.
"The child can refuse to visit the parent."
Yes, and they can also refuse to do chores, refuse to do their homework, refuse to get a haircut, and refuse to eat. That's just the way children are. Some mothers never learn.

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