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jadksn

Owensboro, KY

#21 Jan 27, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
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The cry to put God back in schools is not to teach about God, it's to have His eyes watching over them again. When God was allowed in school, when the day started with the pledge of allegiance AND a morning prayer, there were no school shootings. There were no students killing themselves over bullying. There was order in the classroom. Students respected their teachers.
As society has pushed God away, wanting His word banned from schools and public places, there has been a steady decline in moral fiber and now we have kids killing kids or taunting & tormenting to the point of the victims wanting to end their own lives to get away from it. God is light & love. You take Him out of school and all you're left with is darkness and evil. That's why people want God back in schools. Having Him there didn't hurt anyone; taking Him out of school has.
Don't be silly, at every public school I've been to there have been christian organizations, even prayer groups. Of course the students had to go there by their on will.
Some students would even bring bibles to class. God is very much allowed in school, you just can't force your own ideas upon another person legally

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Duluth, GA

#22 Jan 27, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
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Ask your parents how their school day commenced.
ok i will, ask dad. Mom was in catholic school
Talk

Owensboro, KY

#23 Jan 27, 2013
If you truly believe a coue of Amen's in the morning is going to cure our schools you are downright delusional.
Kids don't listen to teachers, they don't listen to their parents or anybody else- and that's the parents fault
Maybe if we started holding parents responsible for what their kids do then parents would stop letting kids act like heathens. If a kid gets caught with drugs, mom and dad have to pay up and take some parenting classes and attend meetings along with jr's punishment. Then maybe parents will actually parent their kids instead of pushing them off so they can do their own thing
yep

Owensboro, KY

#24 Jan 27, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
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I'm not saying prayer should be forced on all students. Is it any different than an illegal alien in the public school system standing there every morning listening to the Pledge of Allegiance? Are we forcing that upon them? They don't have to recite it, if they don't want to. The same would apply if it was a Hindu or Buddhist prayer...Christians wouldn't have to participate in it...but would, hopefully, be as tolerant of any other religion's prayer as they'd like for everyone else to be tolerant of one lifted up to our Christian God, the way it was when school was established.
All I'm saying is, any time there is a tragedy in the school, people cry about how God could allow something like that to happen. When society wants to banish God's watchful, protective hand from school, why is it a surprise when evil takes over?
Proof that there is no God.
abby

Greenville, KY

#25 Jan 28, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not saying prayer should be forced on all students. Is it any different than an illegal alien in the public school system standing there every morning listening to the Pledge of Allegiance? Are we forcing that upon them? They don't have to recite it, if they don't want to. The same would apply if it was a Hindu or Buddhist prayer...Christians wouldn't have to participate in it...but would, hopefully, be as tolerant of any other religion's prayer as they'd like for everyone else to be tolerant of one lifted up to our Christian God, the way it was when school was established.

All I'm saying is, any time there is a tragedy in the school, people cry about how God could allow something like that to happen. When society wants to banish God's watchful, protective hand from school, why is it a surprise when evil takes over?
But thats because god is supposed to protect the innocent blah blah blah. The cry about why god let it happen is because it seems god abandoned them. People say he isnt allowed in school so then it seems god abandons these kids because of adult actions...not allowing him in. So yeah excuse us if we see 20 kids shot dead in school and wonder why this amazing loving forgiving savior let this happen.
crazy

United States

#26 Jan 28, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
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I'm not saying prayer should be forced on all students. Is it any different than an illegal alien in the public school system standing there every morning listening to the Pledge of Allegiance? Are we forcing that upon them? They don't have to recite it, if they don't want to. The same would apply if it was a Hindu or Buddhist prayer...Christians wouldn't have to participate in it...but would, hopefully, be as tolerant of any other religion's prayer as they'd like for everyone else to be tolerant of one lifted up to our Christian God, the way it was when school was established.
All I'm saying is, any time there is a tragedy in the school, people cry about how God could allow something like that to happen. When society wants to banish God's watchful, protective hand from school, why is it a surprise when evil takes over?
First off, if someone immigrates to the us legally or illegally they should still at the very least respect the pledge of allegiance, especially if they're undocumented. Secondly, there are approximately 4200 religions worldwide. How do you propose we honor all of the religions equally. And what about aetheists and agnostics. You may not consider that a religion but I bet they do. Are you as a Christian going to allow them to stand up in the morning and denounce God? I doubt it. And what about religions that worship idols? Are we going to start displaying them in the hallways. Although your ideas are well intentioned, they make absolutely no sense and by promoting bringing religion into the schools you are actually contradicting your own religion. Think about it.
crazy

United States

#27 Jan 28, 2013
Talk wrote:
If you truly believe a coue of Amen's in the morning is going to cure our schools you are downright delusional.
Kids don't listen to teachers, they don't listen to their parents or anybody else- and that's the parents fault
Maybe if we started holding parents responsible for what their kids do then parents would stop letting kids act like heathens. If a kid gets caught with drugs, mom and dad have to pay up and take some parenting classes and attend meetings along with jr's punishment. Then maybe parents will actually parent their kids instead of pushing them off so they can do their own thing
Although I understand your position, its not applicable in all situations. Even the best families have a black sheep. My parents have 5 children, successfully raised 4, but the last one is in and out of rehab all of the time. They did nothing different with him than they did with us, but he made bad choices and no matter how hard they tried, he would never listen to them or any of his siblings. I don't think the issue is whether or not parents should be held responsible or whether or not god should be allowed in school. I think parents need to hold themselves accountable. My children are well mannered and I pride myself on that. If other parents did the same and insttilled some values in their children then the world would be a better place.
wookie

United States

#28 Jan 28, 2013
I remember a student who struggled because he had to work to provide for his family. Putting God in schools won't change what a student has to deal with at home.
Talk

Owensboro, KY

#29 Jan 28, 2013
crazy wrote:
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Although I understand your position, its not applicable in all situations. Even the best families have a black sheep. My parents have 5 children, successfully raised 4, but the last one is in and out of rehab all of the time. They did nothing different with him than they did with us, but he made bad choices and no matter how hard they tried, he would never listen to them or any of his siblings. I don't think the issue is whether or not parents should be held responsible or whether or not god should be allowed in school. I think parents need to hold themselves accountable. My children are well mannered and I pride myself on that. If other parents did the same and insttilled some values in their children then the world would be a better place.
Of course there will always be "black sheep" but I can't help but believe if parents were more involved like they used to be that a lot of kids wouldn't be the way they are. Most are just screaming for attention from parents too caught up in living their own lives. I can't see where saying a prayer in the morning is going to change the kids
sweet1234

Owensboro, KY

#31 Jan 30, 2013
abby wrote:
<quoted text>But thats because god is supposed to protect the innocent blah blah blah. The cry about why god let it happen is because it seems god abandoned them. People say he isnt allowed in school so then it seems god abandons these kids because of adult actions...not allowing him in. So yeah excuse us if we see 20 kids shot dead in school and wonder why this amazing loving forgiving savior let this happen.
Those kids were shot bc of a mentally ill person!! Nobody in their right mind would do that, regardless of their religion or lack thereof. I believe it's a parents job to teach the child their religion, take them to church, Sunday school, etc.

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