god in schools-explain

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abby

Owensboro, KY

#1 Jan 23, 2013
I am so tired of hearing put god back in schools. What does this even mean? Back when I was in high school they removed the 10 commandments from the classrooms. Whoopee. We still had christian clubs and prayer around the flag pole. My sister goes to a local high school and my neice a middle school. They both say that their schools still have christian themed clubs and prayer groups and even say the pledge of alliegence with the option to not say under god if they want. I dont understand what these people want...force every kid to pray or read the bible?
jadksn

Owensboro, KY

#2 Jan 23, 2013
Exactly.
It isn't illegal in any school I know of to openly pray, or wear religious insignia, or bring in religious literature, etc. It's just illegal to teach religion as anything but an objective study.
God is still "allowed" in schools, you're just not allowed to teach kids worldviews.
crazy

United States

#3 Jan 23, 2013
Thats what they want but its never gonna happen. Im catholic and my kids go to catholic schools, but I would never force my religion on someone else. If we put god in the schools are we also gonna put buddah or Allah in the schools? We have separation of church and state not to keep god out of the schools but rather to allow for people to practice freedom of religion, whatever that religion might be.
homo jesus

Hartland, WI

#4 Jan 24, 2013
God Doesnt need to be in schools..might as well have a goddamn fairy tale Class as well teaching about other made up myths or just believe santa clause is real
truth

Princeton, KY

#5 Jan 24, 2013
If you want your child to pray in school, teach them to pray to themselves (not talking). I do it all the time when I'm having a bad day. God help me with this..... No one knows and that is the way it should be. Broadcasting your religious values is usually for those that have something to hide.
wookie

Duluth, GA

#6 Jan 24, 2013
homo jesus wrote:
God Doesnt need to be in schools..might as well have a goddamn fairy tale Class as well teaching about other made up myths or just believe santa clause is real
They teach mythology and they have all kinds of fiction books in the library. Also, Santa was real. Ever heard of St. Nicholas?

Since: Nov 11

Wild Blue Yonder

#7 Jan 24, 2013
abby wrote:
I am so tired of hearing put god back in schools. What does this even mean? Back when I was in high school they removed the 10 commandments from the classrooms. Whoopee. We still had christian clubs and prayer around the flag pole. My sister goes to a local high school and my neice a middle school. They both say that their schools still have christian themed clubs and prayer groups and even say the pledge of alliegence with the option to not say under god if they want. I dont understand what these people want...force every kid to pray or read the bible?
The cry to put God back in schools is not to teach about God, it's to have His eyes watching over them again. When God was allowed in school, when the day started with the pledge of allegiance AND a morning prayer, there were no school shootings. There were no students killing themselves over bullying. There was order in the classroom. Students respected their teachers.

As society has pushed God away, wanting His word banned from schools and public places, there has been a steady decline in moral fiber and now we have kids killing kids or taunting & tormenting to the point of the victims wanting to end their own lives to get away from it. God is light & love. You take Him out of school and all you're left with is darkness and evil. That's why people want God back in schools. Having Him there didn't hurt anyone; taking Him out of school has.
Talk

Owensboro, KY

#8 Jan 24, 2013
I think that instead of blaming the fact that we no longer allow other people to push their beliefs on our children for the issues we should blame the real problem- parents

Back in those days, most families only had 1 parent working- the other was there to watch the kids. The economy doesn't allow for that anymore. Back in those days parent teacher conferences were attended by most parents- now they are never there. Parents just want to pawn their kids off on anyone and everyone so that they don't have to deal with them

I have a senior in high school- i have been to every meeting, conference, etc. I know exactly which parents will be there (can count them on one hand). They are the same ones who have taken an interest all thru school. A teacher told me once that parent teacher conferences are a joke now- the parents who come already know how their kids are doing and the ones who the teachers need to talk to wont come

I do not want my child taught someone else's religion- that's my job. Some parents don't do it? It's still not the schools job. And how come if we are going to put god back in school it automatically is the Christian god? How about we put the Hindu gods in schools and see how fast all the die hard Christians start screaming- take god out, separation of church and state, etc
Really

Owensboro, KY

#9 Jan 25, 2013
Some schools even have Christmas decorations. Christmas is the holiest day of the year. So nobody can accuse them of taking God out of school.
abby

Greenville, KY

#10 Jan 25, 2013
CastleOnACloud wrote:
<quoted text>The cry to put God back in schools is not to teach about God, it's to have His eyes watching over them again. When God was allowed in school, when the day started with the pledge of allegiance AND a morning prayer, there were no school shootings. There were no students killing themselves over bullying. There was order in the classroom. Students respected their teachers.

As society has pushed God away, wanting His word banned from schools and public places, there has been a steady decline in moral fiber and now we have kids killing kids or taunting & tormenting to the point of the victims wanting to end their own lives to get away from it. God is light & love. You take Him out of school and all you're left with is darkness and evil. That's why people want God back in schools. Having Him there didn't hurt anyone; taking Him out of school has.
When was there ever a morning prayer? I graduated in 94 and never did we do a morning prayer. They still say the pledge. How has his word been banned? Sounds like you are saying prayer should be forced on all the students. Thats just wrong.
abby

Greenville, KY

#11 Jan 25, 2013
Really wrote:
Some schools even have Christmas decorations. Christmas is the holiest day of the year. So nobody can accuse them of taking God out of school.
Surely you mean HOLIDAY decorations :P
Blaster21

United States

#12 Jan 25, 2013
No, they mean CHRISTMAS decorations.
wookie

Duluth, GA

#13 Jan 25, 2013
Why don't they at least have courses on humanity? The only time I had the opportunity to help others was if I was involved in a club. They should require some sort of humanitarian class.
Me again

Owensboro, KY

#14 Jan 25, 2013
We can't teach American history without teaching Christian religion. The Declaration of Independence has a number of invocations of religious matter. Patrick Henry's famous speech, and Thomas Paine's famous broadside pamphets, had lots of references to God, and other religious matter. Thomas Paine even explained why God was on our side and not the side of the British. Abraham Lincoln went on and on like a preacher in his 2nd inaugural address, with phrases such as "the judgments of the lord" etc. And that was one of the most famous speeches in American history, from which millions of schoolchildren have had to memorize quotations.

We have to face the fact that we've always been a Christian nation, and that other religions are welcome here as outsiders visiting, not as parts of the foundations of our society. When we preach freedom of religion, we just mean the government shouldn't persecute people for their religions, not that we consider all religions to be equal.

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Hawesville, KY

#15 Jan 25, 2013
Talk wrote:
I think that instead of blaming the fact that we no longer allow other people to push their beliefs on our children for the issues we should blame the real problem- parents
Back in those days, most families only had 1 parent working- the other was there to watch the kids. The economy doesn't allow for that anymore. Back in those days parent teacher conferences were attended by most parents- now they are never there. Parents just want to pawn their kids off on anyone and everyone so that they don't have to deal with them
I have a senior in high school- i have been to every meeting, conference, etc. I know exactly which parents will be there (can count them on one hand). They are the same ones who have taken an interest all thru school. A teacher told me once that parent teacher conferences are a joke now- the parents who come already know how their kids are doing and the ones who the teachers need to talk to wont come
I do not want my child taught someone else's religion- that's my job. Some parents don't do it? It's still not the schools job. And how come if we are going to put god back in school it automatically is the Christian god? How about we put the Hindu gods in schools and see how fast all the die hard Christians start screaming- take god out, separation of church and state, etc
well said.
Talk

United States

#16 Jan 25, 2013
Me again wrote:
We can't teach American history without teaching Christian religion. The Declaration of Independence has a number of invocations of religious matter. Patrick Henry's famous speech, and Thomas Paine's famous broadside pamphets, had lots of references to God, and other religious matter. Thomas Paine even explained why God was on our side and not the side of the British. Abraham Lincoln went on and on like a preacher in his 2nd inaugural address, with phrases such as "the judgments of the lord" etc. And that was one of the most famous speeches in American history, from which millions of schoolchildren have had to memorize quotations.
We have to face the fact that we've always been a Christian nation, and that other religions are welcome here as outsiders visiting, not as parts of the foundations of our society. When we preach freedom of religion, we just mean the government shouldn't persecute people for their religions, not that we consider all religions to be equal.
Religion being taught as history is one thing- but forcing children to believe someone else's beliefs is just wrong
Our nation was founded on freedom from persecution and separation of church and state was so important that they put it in our founding documents. They didn't state - separation of church and state unless it is the Christian faith. Since they didn't specify one must believe that they meant ALL religions are equal and that they are all free to practice free from persecution. They are free to send their children to public schools (which their taxes pay for) and not worry that their religious choices are going to be run over or dismissed as wrong or not as important. If you want your child to have a Christian education, send them to a Christian school
crazy

United States

#17 Jan 27, 2013
Really wrote:
Some schools even have Christmas decorations. Christmas is the holiest day of the year. So nobody can accuse them of taking God out of school.
Lmao. You think having Christmas decorations in the school means that God is in schools. You're nuts. When's the last time you saw a manger scene in the public schools? I don't think I ever have. Christmas is all about gifts and trees and decorations. Its completely commercialized. Yes for Christians it is more than that but that's not how everyone sees it. Im pretty sure Santa didnt show up at the manger with gifts did he? Lol

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Since: Jan 13

Hawesville, KY

#18 Jan 27, 2013
abby wrote:
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When was there ever a morning prayer? I graduated in 94 and never did we do a morning prayer. They still say the pledge. How has his word been banned? Sounds like you are saying prayer should be forced on all the students. Thats just wrong.
i graduated in 1985, there was never a prayer in school.

Since: Nov 11

Wild Blue Yonder

#19 Jan 27, 2013
kristilou wrote:
<quoted text>i graduated in 1985, there was never a prayer in school.
Ask your parents how their school day commenced.

Since: Nov 11

Wild Blue Yonder

#20 Jan 27, 2013
abby wrote:
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When was there ever a morning prayer? I graduated in 94 and never did we do a morning prayer. They still say the pledge. How has his word been banned? Sounds like you are saying prayer should be forced on all the students. Thats just wrong.
I'm not saying prayer should be forced on all students. Is it any different than an illegal alien in the public school system standing there every morning listening to the Pledge of Allegiance? Are we forcing that upon them? They don't have to recite it, if they don't want to. The same would apply if it was a Hindu or Buddhist prayer...Christians wouldn't have to participate in it...but would, hopefully, be as tolerant of any other religion's prayer as they'd like for everyone else to be tolerant of one lifted up to our Christian God, the way it was when school was established.

All I'm saying is, any time there is a tragedy in the school, people cry about how God could allow something like that to happen. When society wants to banish God's watchful, protective hand from school, why is it a surprise when evil takes over?

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