OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44069 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>There are good and bad issues with Canadian Socialized Medicine. The good is preventive healthcare. The bad is catastrophic healthcare.
We now have preventive healthcare and it is only as good if people take advantage of it.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44070 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I have those worries now, and I have enough insurance to cover all bills except yearly deductible.
Are you on a group plan? And what are your deductibles? Then think about the people that are on a fixed income and the medicare deductibles for Part A.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44071 Jun 21, 2013
For me, Obamacare turned to crap when public option bit the dust.

Hey Justaminute, this was my first Obama disappointment.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44072 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I have those worries now, and I have enough insurance to cover all bills except yearly deductible.
Before my husband found out he had the high end stage 3 colon cancer in 2003 our health ins. policy was a $500 DEDUCTIBLE and after that was met it paid 100% of the bills. Even though our premiums were high we had made the right decision to have bought it and have it when he fought his cancer.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44073 Jun 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Are you on a group plan? And what are your deductibles? Then think about the people that are on a fixed income and the medicare deductibles for Part A.
I want you to forget about Obamacare for a minute.

Are you against socialized medicine?
Stephen

United States

#44074 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>There are good and bad issues with Canadian Socialized Medicine. The good is preventive healthcare. The bad is catastrophic healthcare.
I don't know if I'll remember all the details maybe Tamara will fill in if I leave something out. MistyGirl's neighbor moved from Canada because she was diagnosed with terminal cancer I don't remember what kind of cancer. She was told that there was nothing medicine could do for her she needed to get her personal affairs in order. So this woman told her husband and kids and prepared to die. MistyGirl said around 2 weeks passed and her neighbor decided she wasn't going to just die without a fight so she contacted the Mayo Clinic I think it was and long story short her neighbor has been her neighbor for a decade now or so because she sought treatment somewhere they would treat her instead of sending her home with a bottle of pills or an I.V. to die.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44075 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I want you to forget about Obamacare for a minute.
Are you against socialized medicine?
At this time I am not that impressed with socialized medicines. No matter what some has said on here I myself have not talked to one person that says their care is a quality care. That there are long wait periods in getting their health issues taken care of. Some health issues don not allow for long wait periods to be taken care of. I am glad people that don't have health ins. now will have it but it should not be at the expense of others. I donot like the idea that the government will be in control of who gets medical help and to what degree of help the will get. Age will play a big part in that decision and so will the cost of the medical help they will need.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44076 Jun 21, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if I'll remember all the details maybe Tamara will fill in if I leave something out. MistyGirl's neighbor moved from Canada because she was diagnosed with terminal cancer I don't remember what kind of cancer. She was told that there was nothing medicine could do for her she needed to get her personal affairs in order. So this woman told her husband and kids and prepared to die. MistyGirl said around 2 weeks passed and her neighbor decided she wasn't going to just die without a fight so she contacted the Mayo Clinic I think it was and long story short her neighbor has been her neighbor for a decade now or so because she sought treatment somewhere they would treat her instead of sending her home with a bottle of pills or an I.V. to die.
Long story short you pretty much got it all in.

I wonder if Canada's health ins covers them outside of Canadian boarders? I know that what people buy here in the US including Medicare does not cover you outside the boarders of the US,
So What

Newalla, OK

#44077 Jun 21, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if I'll remember all the details maybe Tamara will fill in if I leave something out. MistyGirl's neighbor moved from Canada because she was diagnosed with terminal cancer I don't remember what kind of cancer. She was told that there was nothing medicine could do for her she needed to get her personal affairs in order. So this woman told her husband and kids and prepared to die. MistyGirl said around 2 weeks passed and her neighbor decided she wasn't going to just die without a fight so she contacted the Mayo Clinic I think it was and long story short her neighbor has been her neighbor for a decade now or so because she sought treatment somewhere they would treat her instead of sending her home with a bottle of pills or an I.V. to die.
I've heard enough stories like this to believe it is true. But what you don't here is the stories about people that were able to avoid catastrophic healthcare issues because of Canada's preventative healthcare.

TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44078 Jun 21, 2013
Well people I am heading back to bed. Got some pain issues under control so maybe I can go to sleep and stay asleep. Talk with you all today at daylight hours.
Stephen

United States

#44079 Jun 21, 2013
Time for me to call it a nite or maybe early morn...

:-)

later ladies.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44080 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I've heard enough stories like this to believe it is true. But what you don't here is the stories about people that were able to avoid catastrophic healthcare issues because of Canada's preventative healthcare.
You do know that we have what you are calling preventative healthcare now. Even on medicare now you donot have to had meant you deductible and medicare pays. But preventable healthcare is only good if one take advantage of it.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44081 Jun 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Long story short you pretty much got it all in.
I wonder if Canada's health ins covers them outside of Canadian boarders? I know that what people buy here in the US including Medicare does not cover you outside the boarders of the US,
No it does not.

A little story about Frances Healthcare system. When I went to France this spring, I went into a pharmacy and asked the pharmacist a question and was charged approx. 100.00 for the answer to my question, because I wasn't a French citizen. It would have been free if I was Citizen of France. I still came out ahead because the medicine I asked about, was over the counter there, and was about 20 times cheaper than here.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44082 Jun 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that we have what you are calling preventative healthcare now. Even on medicare now you donot have to had meant you deductible and medicare pays. But preventable healthcare is only good if one take advantage of it.
Preventative healthcare needs to start when you are in the womb. Even before that, but that's another tangled web.

I here people say we have the finest healthcare in the world. If that's true why is our infant mortality rate so much higher compared to most countries with socialized healthcare?
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44083 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>No it does not.
A little story about Frances Healthcare system. When I went to France this spring, I went into a pharmacy and asked the pharmacist a question and was charged approx. 100.00 for the answer to my question, because I wasn't a French citizen. It would have been free if I was Citizen of France. I still came out ahead because the medicine I asked about, was over the counter there, and was about 20 times cheaper than here.
Just because Obama and his supporter say health care cost will go down does not mean it actually will. So far I am not seeing it. I am not seeing medical going down nor drugs cost going down nor health insurance premiums going down. Also I am not so sure that some meds should be sold over the counter. There are meds no being sold over the counter that should not be. I know some meds that were sold over the counter in Mexico now need a prescription.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44084 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Preventative healthcare needs to start when you are in the womb. Even before that, but that's another tangled web.
I here people say we have the finest healthcare in the world. If that's true why is our infant mortality rate so much higher compared to most countries with socialized healthcare?
When you are talking about the mortality rate of infants are talking do to illnesses or what?
So What

Newalla, OK

#44085 Jun 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>When you are talking about the mortality rate of infants are talking do to illnesses or what?
Each year, about one million infants around the world die on the same day they’re born. That figure includes about 11,300 U.S. babies — the highest first-day infant mortality rate of any other country in the industrialized world, In fact, the United States’ rate of first-day infant death is 50 percent more than all the other industrialized countries combined. The reason? Lack of adequate healthcare.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44086 Jun 21, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Each year, about one million infants around the world die on the same day they’re born. That figure includes about 11,300 U.S. babies — the highest first-day infant mortality rate of any other country in the industrialized world, In fact, the United States’ rate of first-day infant death is 50 percent more than all the other industrialized countries combined. The reason? Lack of adequate healthcare.
When you are saying lack of adequate healthcare is that these when got poor medical attention, or did they not have medical attention do to not having health ins, or could it possibly that the mothers did not take of themselves with or without the proper healthcare. Was adequate healthcare available to these women. It is hard to believe all these infants deaths were from not having adequate healthcare.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44087 Jun 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I am not sure what you are calling a discount plan. I am pretty sure if you are no longer working at 65 and older and in a group health plan that age group don't buy discount plans and make medicare a supplyment.
these discount plans what are the cost and what is their deductibles and the pay out towards medical bills. I would bet that these discount plans would have deductibles and it would have to be met before they pay out towards medical bills and I would thinks even if medicare was the supplyment it would also have it's deductibles. Now would the deductibles be the same if a person had medicare with a supplyment health ins.?
<SomeWhat>

You never answered this post about discount plans and how deductibles work with Medicare's deductible. Depending on what supplyment plan you pick to go with medicare they both have deductibles to be met.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44089 Jun 21, 2013
Some one must not know diddle about health insurance to put clueless up on my last post.
If medicare is your primary ins. and you have a supplement ins you have to meet Medicare's deductible before it kicks in and pays and for your supplement to pay if it has a deductible it has to be met before it starts to pay. Now if you have another primary health insurance and it has a deductible that has to be met before it starts to pay and with this you have medicare as the supplement then its deductible would have to be met before it starts to pay.

I just wanted to know if this is what SomeWhat was talking about in her post.

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