OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34977 Jan 5, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>I think he is refering to another civil war.
If so I donot want that for this country. Again that sounds to much like Iran, Iraq and the others. I would to think this country and the people would have to live as they do. Where the heck has it gotten them. And there is no country out there to come to our aid as it seems it is always up to us to go to other country's aid. It sickens me that our men and women are dying or being seriously hurt for countries like Iran, Iraq and the others. What is even worse the majority of the time these countries never get better.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34978 Jan 6, 2013
I wouldn't be pointing at those ME counties and patting ourselves on the back.

We have more violent gun deaths than they do.

In fact, we, thanks to the Repub party, have made it easier to own a gun than to vote.

But we are going to be pointing fingers now and bring to peoples attention to the hypocrisy of Republican house members. All of the no votes for disaster relief for hurricane Sandy were from Reps of states that had request aid from the government for disasters in their districts who then turned and voted No for Sandy. What is even more hypocritical they are from States that receive more from the government than what they pay in federal taxes. Maybe it's time to cut them off from the federal dole.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34979 Jan 6, 2013
Well so far I donot see the need nor feel the ned to pack a gun 24/7. Most of the violent shooting are from people that have gotten their guns illegally. One thing that needs to be put a stop to is the way guns are sold at the gun shows. Even before states made it legal to buy and carry guns any Tom/Dick/Harry could buy a gun with out a back ground check at any gun show. So people can get their hands on a gun without a back ground check if they want one bad enough. But so far the majority of kids are not being raised at grade school age to carry a gun. The shootings that are done by under age kids their parent are as much at fault as the kid that does the shooting. Just like this last school shooting. The kid got the guns from his mother which took the kid shooting with her and she seemed to know this kids had mental problems. I still would not like this country to be like most ME countries. If you people think these M countries are better than this country then I wonder why they are not living there instead of here!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34980 Jan 6, 2013
Oh I see some must be wanting is for the Democrats and the Rebublicans to start a full scale uprising war like the Civil War. It amazes me that people Always wants to blame the other guy for all the faults of asituation whe actually it is both parties that has cause problems that has gotten this country to this point.

Since: Jul 10

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#34981 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>To me that is giving one organization to much power. Like going into a dictatorship. One party would not be giving the people any more power than they have right now. Would we still be voting for a President and we they be from the same party. I guess you mean the country would be more united like Iraq, Iran and others like them. NO THANK YOU!
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Nope, one party would be the creation of the masses of people and it would be the best representation as it is from the people. We'd still have the same Constitution, same rights, unless the masses decide to amend according to law. It is not likely that the masses would vote for loss of liberty and freedom and dictatorships, but we do it now by voting against those who would uphold the Constitution and law.

For example, if 75% of nation voted Democrat it would be the single party system and as a condition of the peoples choice. Our Constitution would still protect the minority from the majority.

You underestimate the American people and don't allow that they can choose the leadership. We do it all the time, but not as one party, fully united.

When you have 75% or more of people in agreement it is the voice of the people and the way our system is designed to be. Of the people, by the people, for the people.

Since: Jul 10

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#34982 Jan 6, 2013
Tamara, you are opposed to coming together. The ultimate results of coming together is a one-party system.
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#34983 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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You underestimate the American people ......
It's not possible to underestimate the American people.
Especially Okies.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34984 Jan 6, 2013
No I am not opposed to coming together but I have not seen in either party where I would want either party being that one-party system. To think I would have the Pelosci [misspelled I know] and the Harry Reids and /or many rebulicans running my scares the heck out of me! To give that power to just the Democrats No Thank You! To give that power to just the Republicans No Thank You! First Good Honest People would have to be found and this just is not happening for either party!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34985 Jan 6, 2013
You underestimate the American people No WMCOL I just donot over estimate the people in politics!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34986 Jan 6, 2013
People will be surprise when they go to file their income taxes for 2013. Not only the people making $400,000 be loosing what they can deduct but every one under that amount. Also what the employers pay for their employees healthcare will be figured into their total amount of earned income. So not only will the higher income people be hit with higher taxes so will the lower income people.
As for the government cutting back on flood pay out for assistance in Storm Sandy because I guess claims are maxing it out. I have never had to buy flood insurance so I donot know if the government has ever raised premium for it or not. But I bet you'll be seeing this happening.
People need to figure out away to better protect themselves from lost of property from storms instead of wanting the government to pick up the tab.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34987 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
No I am not opposed to coming together but I have not seen in either party where I would want either party being that one-party system. To think I would have the Pelosci [misspelled I know] and the Harry Reids and /or many rebulicans running my scares the heck out of me! To give that power to just the Democrats No Thank You! To give that power to just the Republicans No Thank You! First Good Honest People would have to be found and this just is not happening for either party!
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>>>To give that power <<<

What you don't understand is that this coutry was designed for a one-party system where the ultimate power resides with the people, not the elected. Of the people, by the people, for the people. Think about that. It has one party, the Peoples(Demos) Party written all over it.

Yo are so used to giving your power away to elected representatves that you can't even comprehend what OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, and FOR THE PEOPLE means. Come out of your bondage. We the people, UNITED as ONE, one party, have the power. E Pluribus Unum.

The Founders saw the MANY as becoming ONE. Jefferson, Adams, others, saw that as the way to preserve the Union. Only through that ONENESS are the elected persons controlled in the interest of the people. Parties DIVIDE us, create Divisions, the very thing parties thrive on, and the very thing that keeps us from coming together as one people.

E Pluribus Unum is the best that a government can be. Unum, ONE party.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#34988 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
You underestimate the American people No WMCOL I just donot over estimate the people in politics!
I agree, whats wrong these politians?
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34989 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Well so far I donot see the need nor feel the ned to pack a gun 24/7. Most of the violent shooting are from people that have gotten their guns illegally. One thing that needs to be put a stop to is the way guns are sold at the gun shows. Even before states made it legal to buy and carry guns any Tom/Dick/Harry could buy a gun with out a back ground check at any gun show. So people can get their hands on a gun without a back ground check if they want one bad enough. But so far the majority of kids are not being raised at grade school age to carry a gun. The shootings that are done by under age kids their parent are as much at fault as the kid that does the shooting. Just like this last school shooting. The kid got the guns from his mother which took the kid shooting with her and she seemed to know this kids had mental problems. I still would not like this country to be like most ME countries. If you people think these M countries are better than this country then I wonder why they are not living there instead of here!
Those ME countries use religion as their means to keep their power. There is only one party here in the US that always use Religion when they want to stir the populace up. And that's not the Dems. And it's pretty safe to say that Religion only advocates for one party now and that's the Republican party.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34990 Jan 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Those ME countries use religion as their means to keep their power. There is only one party here in the US that always use Religion when they want to stir the populace up. And that's not the Dems. And it's pretty safe to say that Religion only advocates for one party now and that's the Republican party.
You maybe if people got back to believing in God there just might be less violence in this country. When God has been forbidden to be allow in so many places that is when I noticed people becoming more violent. When pride in our country was taken out of many places that is when I saw more people disrespecting this country. So you go ahead and blame all what's wrong with the U. S. on one party.

Since: Jul 10

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#34991 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>You maybe if people got back to believing in God there just might be less violence in this country. When God has been forbidden to be allow in so many places that is when I noticed people becoming more violent. When pride in our country was taken out of many places that is when I saw more people disrespecting this country. So you go ahead and blame all what's wrong with the U. S. on one party.
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You might have a good point there about there being less violence when we believe in God.

Jesus said:

Luke 11:21 "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,his goods are in peace."

However, the saying is God AND country, not God IS country. That's some other place you're thinking about where Theocracy sways the day, and still there is no peace.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34992 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
<quoted text>
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You might have a good point there about there being less violence when we believe in God.
Jesus said:
Luke 11:21 "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,his goods are in peace."
However, the saying is God AND country, not God IS country. That's some other place you're thinking about where Theocracy sways the day, and still there is no peace.
Right now it is not God and Country ot Gid is Country. I do agree it is God and Country. But now days that is not allow here anymore. Like a few on here seem to be saying if you believe in God then you are taking this country down. I believe when so many decided believing in God was no longer cool our country was on it's way down.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34993 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Right now it is not God and Country ot Gid is Country. I do agree it is God and Country. But now days that is not allow here anymore. Like a few on here seem to be saying if you believe in God then you are taking this country down. I believe when so many decided believing in God was no longer cool our country was on it's way down.
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God AND country indicates two different agendas, two different entities. A separation. A secular and a spiritual.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34994 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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God AND country indicates two different agendas, two different entities. A separation. A secular and a spiritual.
I understand that. But when people do not do the right and moral things then that starts them down paths of wrongs. Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions. I donot care who you are it happens. And I believe our government is walking down that path and has for some time. I believe alot of people are walking down that path. I believe this is why so many donot give it a second thought to handle problems by violence. You pist me off so they think I 'll do you in and thats what they do. I think in alot of cases children are not being given structure in their lives. I believe alot people actually donot know how to parent so our young generation will not grow up with good morals.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34995 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I understand that. But when people do not do the right and moral things then that starts them down paths of wrongs. Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions. I donot care who you are it happens. And I believe our government is walking down that path and has for some time. I believe alot of people are walking down that path. I believe this is why so many donot give it a second thought to handle problems by violence. You pist me off so they think I 'll do you in and thats what they do. I think in alot of cases children are not being given structure in their lives. I believe alot people actually donot know how to parent so our young generation will not grow up with good morals.
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People that don't believe in a God and who are not religious do the right thing all the time. They don't steal. They don't do murder, rape, robbery, they believe in strong family units, education, well behaved children. They are governed by the SECULAR rule-of-law which is suppposed to be the one thing that unites us all whether believer or non-believer.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#34996 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
<quoted text>
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People that don't believe in a God and who are not religious do the right thing all the time. They don't steal. They don't do murder, rape, robbery, they believe in strong family units, education, well behaved children. They are governed by the SECULAR rule-of-law which is suppposed to be the one thing that unites us all whether believer or non-believer.
So, I guess you know all these poeple and keep up with them.

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