Judge orders Seminole County jail inmate not to contact familie...

[good girl]

The guards are not doing their jobs!!! He is in PRISION why are they not monitoring his mail??? WHat right does he have to even have a pencil, paper and stamp??6414

[onepopo]

Orlando Homegrown wrote:

<quoted text>The bottom line is the couple that got killed showed the police ample evidence that this wacko was threatrening their lives. That in itself constitutes "Assault", now couple that with the allegations of stalking and at least it should have generated some activity from the sheriff's office. If nothing else but to let the twirp know he was being watched by the county mounties! That's not to say the twirp wouldn't have found a way to succeed in killing the pair but at least the Sheriff's office wouldn't be standing there with egg on their faces as in the case of the officer that bungled the 911 call. Hind sight is always 20/20!

Actually Assault(an imminent threat) is only a second degree misdemeanor and unless it occurs in the officer's presence (with the exception of Assault related to Domestic Violence) a custodial arrest cannot be made.

Orlando Racist has it right, since the suspect was stalking these folks AND had placed them in fear of their lives, "Aggravated Stalking" is the appropriate crime and should have been charged by the initial responding deputy. It is a no bond felony.

Even knowing there is usually so much more to a story then what is printed in the media, I don't believe the deputy did all that the law allowed him to.

This is why officers need to be so careful with domestic type disputes. Some are total B.S. but most are not. You have to take the time to ask questions and dig deeper. The last thing anyone wants is to end up in a horrible situation like this.

[Tietrack]

Why can't we just execute him now. Only a nation of cowards would let these murderers live. Our criminal justice system is broke. When will we begin to kill the millions of criminals that walk our streets and those enjoyong cable TV for 25 years on so-called death row?

[Tired of paying]

"I want you to know that a lot of it isn't true. Some of it is and I'm sure you can pick out those pieces," he wrote. "They make me look like such a bad person when I'm really not. I spent enough time with you guys for you to know who I really am."

No, you are not a bad person. You probably went to church and were a student that tried his best. It is not you, just the environment you were around. You are a little angel with a troubled past who just needs a little help. We expect everyone that is good to go around a kill people.

Oh, cut the bull, just fry him and end it!

[Lady D Stella]

The Mastermind wrote:

They should cut off Allred's hands - that way he couldn't write any of the letters.

Okay LOL....that was funny and unexpected.

[Orlando Racist]

onepopo wrote:

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Actually Assault(an imminent threat) is only a second degree misdemeanor and unless it occurs in the officer's presence (with the exception of Assault related to Domestic Violence) a custodial arrest cannot be made.
Orlando Racist has it right, since the suspect was stalking these folks AND had placed them in fear of their lives, "Aggravated Stalking" is the appropriate crime and should have been charged by the initial responding deputy. It is a no bond felony.
Even knowing there is usually so much more to a story then what is printed in the media, I don't believe the deputy did all that the law allowed him to.
This is why officers need to be so careful with domestic type disputes. Some are total B.S. but most are not. You have to take the time to ask questions and dig deeper. The last thing anyone wants is to end up in a horrible situation like this.

It would be great if a real reporter from either the Sentinel or any one of the news outlets in Orlando would bring this up to SCSO.

To this date not one reporter has asked SCSO why they failed to apply the Stalking/Cyber Stalking statute to this incident.

SCSO dropped the ball on this and I have been saying it since Day 1. It may not have prevented what happened that night but doing nothing as SCSO did resulted in two young lives being wiped out. No one can defend SCSO for doing nothing.

[Meg]

Class A sociopath, all ego, no conscious. He needs to go away 4-e-ver. Brings to mind Ted Bunde, although no where near as bright.

[Nick]

I believe that from day one a victim (the living family would also count) is able to state that they don't want to ever be contacted by the prisoner/s.

They should not have to... it should be the other way around where you would have to give an OK to ever start receiving the mail/contact.

I'm sure that in the overwhelming majority of cases, the victims and their families would prefer to not be contacted by someone who has done something horrible to you and/or your family.

[Jynx87]

HuhWhatThe wrote:

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Huh? No one disputes that he had the ability to send mail. It's a question of whether or not he should be and, since the families have requested he not do so, the courts issued an order of protectance as they would with many cases of harrassment. Maybe I'm not getting the point of your post?

The point of my post was to point out that reading the ENTIRE article would be beneficial prior to posting about said article and it was directed at the person who started the thread.

[mommys angels]

If I remember correctly about this case. This is the couple who had just left the police dept earlier only to be told nothing could be done. So I think that is why the family is pushing so hard for the new law.. Aggravating Stalking should have been put to this case but the officers did not follow the law in this case dang guys were to lazy now 2 people are dead.

[fedup]

onepopo wrote:

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Actually Assault(an imminent threat) is only a second degree misdemeanor and unless it occurs in the officer's presence (with the exception of Assault related to Domestic Violence) a custodial arrest cannot be made.
Orlando Racist has it right, since the suspect was stalking these folks AND had placed them in fear of their lives, "Aggravated Stalking" is the appropriate crime and should have been charged by the initial responding deputy. It is a no bond felony.
Even knowing there is usually so much more to a story then what is printed in the media, I don't believe the deputy did all that the law allowed him to.
This is why officers need to be so careful with domestic type disputes. Some are total B.S. but most are not. You have to take the time to ask questions and dig deeper. The last thing anyone wants is to end up in a horrible situation like this.

There IS more to this story than is being printed in the media and if the public knew ALL of the threats this guy made that were reported to the police and not acted upon, there would be a riot at the SCSO.

[NotReally]

Orlando Homegrown wrote:

<quoted text>The bottom line is the couple that got killed showed the police ample evidence that this wacko was threatrening their lives. That in itself constitutes "Assault", now couple that with the allegations of stalking and at least it should have generated some activity from the sheriff's office. If nothing else but to let the twirp know he was being watched by the county mounties! That's not to say the twirp wouldn't have found a way to succeed in killing the pair but at least the Sheriff's office wouldn't be standing there with egg on their faces as in the case of the officer that bungled the 911 call. Hind sight is always 20/20!

I haven't read the police report, as you or someone else suggested. I've only listened to and read news reports of what happened. My point was simply that the burden of proof for stalking, harrassment, etc is very challenging and it may be that the Deputy didn't have enough proof to further the case. You say there was ample proof...I don't know what that was, but what seems so blatantly apparent to the rest of us is an entirely different ballgame once it makes it's way to the courts. And again, especially with teens and younger adults, there tend to be a LOT of false accusations by scorned ex-partner in a vain attempt to disrupt the lives of their ex-partner. It's really quite sad, but so many people inundate the system with BS calls, it really puts law enforcement in a precarious position to prioritize cases and single out the legitimate calls from the phoney ones.

[NotReally]

onepopo wrote:

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Actually Assault(an imminent threat) is only a second degree misdemeanor and unless it occurs in the officer's presence (with the exception of Assault related to Domestic Violence) a custodial arrest cannot be made.
Orlando Racist has it right, since the suspect was stalking these folks AND had placed them in fear of their lives, "Aggravated Stalking" is the appropriate crime and should have been charged by the initial responding deputy. It is a no bond felony.
Even knowing there is usually so much more to a story then what is printed in the media, I don't believe the deputy did all that the law allowed him to.
This is why officers need to be so careful with domestic type disputes. Some are total B.S. but most are not. You have to take the time to ask questions and dig deeper. The last thing anyone wants is to end up in a horrible situation like this.

Don't you think many of these cases are discounted as insignificant when it's a younger couple, especially if they've never lived together or have no obvious long-term connection (children together, etc)? I take it that the family is trying to promote legislation to broaden the spectrum of domestic violence charges so that cases like this one...where the two did not co-habitate or have a common bond...are evaluated as domestic in nature instead of merely a stalking or potential assault/battery case.

[HuhWhatThe]

Jynx87 wrote:

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The point of my post was to point out that reading the ENTIRE article would be beneficial prior to posting about said article and it was directed at the person who started the thread.

Ok, honestly, I was re-reading posts today and I have NO idea, at what point in your post, intelligence seeped from my brains and left me an imbecile. I would like to think someone interrupted me mid-thought or something, but who knows. Might've just been one of those days when all the lights weren't on.:) Your post makes perfect sense. I apologize for being a dimwit. lol

[O brother]

I clicked on the above link where it says "Full Story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel" A page opened saying, "Page Not Found"
"Sorry, the page you requested could not be found."

So I did a Tiffany Barwick search here at the Sun Sentinel to try to find the article that you all are commenting on. Well it seems that the Tiffany Barwick search brings up nothing on this most recent revelation about Allred contacting the Barwick family here in Ocala(where I live)

Stupid newspaper! Maybe I should see if there is anything in the Ocala Star Blunder er Banner

Even a Google search failed to turn anything related to this latest development:-(

[Jynx87]

HuhWhatThe wrote:

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Ok, honestly, I was re-reading posts today and I have NO idea, at what point in your post, intelligence seeped from my brains and left me an imbecile. I would like to think someone interrupted me mid-thought or something, but who knows. Might've just been one of those days when all the lights weren't on.:) Your post makes perfect sense. I apologize for being a dimwit. lol

I've had days like that. Hell, I think I've even had a couple of years like that. lol Have a great night.