Farmers Cheer Administration's About-...

Farmers Cheer Administration's About-Face On Limiting Teen Farm Work

There are 38 comments on the National Public Radio story from Apr 30, 2012, titled Farmers Cheer Administration's About-Face On Limiting Teen Farm Work. In it, National Public Radio reports that:

When the Obama administration proposed new restrictions on teens working on farms last year, labor leaders and child welfare advocates cheered.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Apr 30, 2012
Millions of farm kids are cursing Obama now that they have to clean out the pig barn again......

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#2 Apr 30, 2012


The people rose up and stiff-armed the asinine Maobama.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#3 Apr 30, 2012



Obama: A disaster for civil liberties

He may prove the most disastrous president in our history in terms of civil liberties.

September 29, 2011
By Jonathan Turley



With the 2012 presidential election before us, the country is again caught up in debating national security issues, our ongoing wars and the threat of terrorism. There is one related subject, however, that is rarely mentioned: civil liberties.

Protecting individual rights and liberties — apart from the right to be tax-free — seems barely relevant to candidates or voters. One man is primarily responsible for the disappearance of civil liberties from the national debate, and he is Barack Obama. While many are reluctant to admit it, Obama has proved a disaster not just for specific civil liberties but the civil liberties cause in the United States.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/29/opini...

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#4 Apr 30, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Millions of farm kids are cursing Obama now that they have to clean out the pig barn again......




Farm kids aren't afraid of a little work, wuss. Go back to playing with your barbie or larry wolf doll.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#5 Apr 30, 2012


YES!!!! The people Turned Back yet another Maobama "Overreach!"


It's time to send obama back to crooked chicago.



Gary

Bellingham, WA

#6 Apr 30, 2012
What we need is a bunch of kids to go and muck out the Republican pig sty. It would be good training for the future.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#7 Apr 30, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Millions of farm kids are cursing Obama now that they have to clean out the pig barn again......
they have plenty of REAL reasons to curse that overreaching -sshole...this isn't one of them.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Apr 30, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
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Farm kids aren't afraid of a little work, wuss. Go back to playing with your barbie or larry wolf doll.
Obvioulsy a little sarcasm is beyond the great queen of spam's comprehension.

I grew up on a family farm, asswipe! Trust me, farm kids wouldn't mind getting out of shoveling sh!t cleaning out the pig barn in 30 below temps or baling hay in 100 degree heat.

But have no fear, all the little brown illegals will still be able to pick your strawberries for your next daquiri.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#10 Apr 30, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Millions of farm kids are cursing Obama now that they have to clean out the pig barn again......
Obama steps on his tee tee again. The marxist just don't get it.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#11 Apr 30, 2012
Gary wrote:
What we need is a bunch of kids to go and muck out the Republican pig sty. It would be good training for the future.
Muck this mother mucker..........SEALS SLAM OBAMA FOR MAKING IT POLITICAL, the clown in chief again plays spike the football. What a clown.

Farrakhan: Joining U.S. Military Is Fighting 'for the Enemy'..so is joining Obama.

Jon Lovitz scorches Obama again:'President lying to get votes'...
Cat74

United States

#12 Apr 30, 2012
Whose idea was it to say young people cannot work the farm, even the family farm? Oh, that's right in Obama's culture young people don't work unless it is selling drugs, or being lookouts for the cops. God forbid we should encourage a work ethic. I will never understand how he thinks. It is so different from Americans. It has to come from his Muslim background.
Curtis Lowe

United States

#13 Apr 30, 2012
Obama sends our young men and women to lose limbs in his illegal wars and now he want's babies to work threshers on farms? Monster! Where's Vera Baker?

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#15 May 1, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
Whose idea was it to say young people cannot work the farm, even the family farm? Oh, that's right in Obama's culture young people don't work unless it is selling drugs, or being lookouts for the cops. God forbid we should encourage a work ethic. I will never understand how he thinks. It is so different from Americans. It has to come from his Muslim background.
This isn't a safety thing. I can tell you that this is outlawing a culture. But, that makes sense seeing as that culture teaches a good work ethic, self-reliance and personal responsibility. All things that threaten liberalism.
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#16 May 1, 2012
What is interesting to me is the lack of explanation as to why Obama "caved" in this matter. Was it truly because he NOW understands what the effect would be if he dictated such legislation, or was his decision strictly a political move, only to try again if he were re-elected.

Does anyone actually believe he changed his opinion? Or, in the alternative, is he pandering for votes again?
Evilmonger

Evansville, IN

#17 May 1, 2012
LoLBama wrote:
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This isn't a safety thing. I can tell you that this is outlawing a culture. But, that makes sense seeing as that culture teaches a good work ethic, self-reliance and personal responsibility. All things that threaten liberalism.
Bingo! This idiocy would have killed 4-H and FFA. I don't know if this was out of control liberalism or big-city ignorance, but it sure did stir up the middle of the country.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#18 May 1, 2012
LoLBama wrote:
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This isn't a safety thing. I can tell you that this is outlawing a culture. But, that makes sense seeing as that culture teaches a good work ethic, self-reliance and personal responsibility. All things that threaten liberalism.
Obama sees great collective farms in americas marxist future.........if people are stupid enough to vote for the marxist in chief again.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#19 May 1, 2012
Dances with Wolves wrote:
What is interesting to me is the lack of explanation as to why Obama "caved" in this matter. Was it truly because he NOW understands what the effect would be if he dictated such legislation, or was his decision strictly a political move, only to try again if he were re-elected.
Does anyone actually believe he changed his opinion? Or, in the alternative, is he pandering for votes again?
Obama's farm boondoggle spanned all age groups and could have united many where he only wants to divide.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#20 May 1, 2012
LoLBama wrote:
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This isn't a safety thing. I can tell you that this is outlawing a culture. But, that makes sense seeing as that culture teaches a good work ethic, self-reliance and personal responsibility. All things that threaten liberalism.
Actually there ARE significant safety issues with farming; obviously you've never been on a farm. Many kids (and adults) are killed each year in farming accidents. Farming is a dangerous business with heavy machinery, large animals, toxic chemicals, etc, etc.

The problem with this proposal was that the govt assumed they knew better than the farmers how to protect their own children. The overwhelming majority of farmers would never endanger their own kids, or any neighbor kids they hire to help out. Of course it only takes one idiot who sends his kid into a grain bin while loading/unloading and the kids suffocates or is torn to shreds in the auger. Then the govt rushes in to save the day.

You can't fix stupid. All the regulations in the world won't stop every accident, mostly because the few idiot farmers will simply ignore any such regulations anyways.

The overwhelming majority of farmers know how to take care of their own families. If the govt really wants to protect farm families, they should put more emphasis on safety education and ensuring farmers have a market for their grain/produce/livestock. And they can pressure the big agricultural businesses (ADM, Cargill, etc) to develop safer products and less toxic chemicals.

Farmers don't want handouts and they don't want more regulations. They just want a fair shot at making a decent living as they provide us all with the food we need.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#21 May 1, 2012
Dances with Wolves wrote:
What is interesting to me is the lack of explanation as to why Obama "caved" in this matter. Was it truly because he NOW understands what the effect would be if he dictated such legislation, or was his decision strictly a political move, only to try again if he were re-elected.
Does anyone actually believe he changed his opinion? Or, in the alternative, is he pandering for votes again?
I think the intent was genuine- i.e. protect kids from dangerous work- but the execution was a blunder due to sheer ignorance. City people just don't understand how family farms work.

That said, we don't allow children under a certain age to work in coal mines or factories anymore. That was once a very common occurance because a) families needed the money, b) kids could be paid less than adults, and c) their little hands were more suitable for some jobs than an adult.

I would support basic rules for large (essentially corporate farm) operations which hire anyone under age 18. But family farms using their own family members or hiring less than 5 neighbor kids at any one time should remain exempt. If you're hiring 50 kids at a pop to pick strawberries (or whatever), then you're a business not a family farm, and should have to follow basic employment regulations.
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#22 May 1, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I think the intent was genuine- i.e. protect kids from dangerous work- but the execution was a blunder due to sheer ignorance. City people just don't understand how family farms work.
That said, we don't allow children under a certain age to work in coal mines or factories anymore. That was once a very common occurance because a) families needed the money, b) kids could be paid less than adults, and c) their little hands were more suitable for some jobs than an adult.
I would support basic rules for large (essentially corporate farm) operations which hire anyone under age 18. But family farms using their own family members or hiring less than 5 neighbor kids at any one time should remain exempt. If you're hiring 50 kids at a pop to pick strawberries (or whatever), then you're a business not a family farm, and should have to follow basic employment regulations.
Then would you agree that current child labor laws are sufficient to cover most situations? If not, why MORE legislation?

Frankly, I don't see any new technology or behavior that would warrant any additional interference by the Government to create more legislation in regards to the "employment" of children, and it concerns me when I see Government seeking more ways to interfere with the family dynamics.

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