Bmoe

Forsyth, GA

#131 Sep 22, 2008
john wrote:
<quoted text>A black African sold a black Africans @ss into slavery. I guess that is "kick ass" in your book.
Why is it whenever white people feel they're losing an argument they feel that they can bring this up and it validates whatever stupid crap they say, if you look at who was in the slave trade it had far less to do with Africians than it did with white people and Europe as a whole, if you read a book that doesn't try and cast blame then you would see that America and Europe got more out of slavery than any other race or nation in the world, please don't make yourself look ignorant in the face of History and the truth.
Brado

Marietta, GA

#132 Sep 24, 2008
Gene Black wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for reminding the person of truth
I have had many young white boys and girls
tell me they have questioned their teachers
and parents about who black people really
are I tell them the truth the black man
was once the only man on earth to be
worshipped as a GOD
AND THAT THERE WAS AND HAS NEVER BEEN A WHITE
JESUS
actuall the truth the white boys and girls need to know is that you apparently are embarrassed by your real history. " blacks' is the politically correct term for sub-saharan peoples, who were for the most part isolated from the rest of the world by oceans on 3 sides and the worlds largest desert to the north, their culture was for the most part neolithic with some mettalurgy. the more advanced cultures existed on the periphery of Africa, those that came into contact with other civilisations. If one wants to know the color of the moors or the egyptians etc; etc; go to any archive or museum and look at the artifacts there are arab manuscripts with pictures of moors, statues of babylonions.The real revisinist history is taking place now so don't worry you will have your perfect world in the near future
Brado

Marietta, GA

#133 Sep 24, 2008
Would it really be farfetched to say that in the 21 century we are all slaves, people for the most part aren't really interested in " the truth" they are just looking for an edge, it's all about self-glory kinda like Gene's comment about " Jesus is not and could not be black" He doesn't really care about Jesus, but that's ok whatever he needs to believe as long as he keeps working and paying just like the rest of us 21 century slaves

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#134 Oct 7, 2008
Arturo wrote:
While I don't know if were black. I do know that no way was the black moors the first to discover America. It was definitely the Asians that did it. Looks at some of the similarities between indigenous people and Asians.
http://www.pbs.org/previews/1421/
But by conjuring BS facts about Moors in America makes me wonder if the Moors were majority black or black ruled. I'm sure the Moors had probably a large percentage of dark skin people amongst their rank and file but, were they the ones calling the shots.
Moors discovered America? I think you live in cuckoo land

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#135 Oct 7, 2008
CHRIS wrote:
The Negro should expect but very little by way of compliment from the pen of other races. We are satisfied to know, however, that our race gave the first great civilization to the world; and, for centuries Africa, our ancestral home, was the great seat of learning; and when black men, who were only fit then for the company of the gods, were philosophers, artists, scientists and men of vision and leadership, the people of other races were groping in savagery, darkness and continental barbarism.
by Marcus Garvey
Nice dream, you read too much Martin Bernal

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#136 Oct 7, 2008
moor wrote:
This is so stupid. My family's name is DeBruin which means "the black" Does that mean they were African? No, It means they were dark featured, with jet black hair, black or blue eyes and dark facial hair and skin. They were normans and I have family lineage in Ireland going back 7 generations.
Trying to base this off of the moors being darker than others is kind of pathetic. Does anyone here even know about the Southern Divide? The sub-saharan africans (black bantus) were seperated from the North of Africa by the desert to the north and the jungle from the center. The only black people in Moorish society were slaves and mercenaries, both groups living lived short and sad lives.
It's pretty much put to rest, that the Moors were white, and I believe the people here have proven this. If you're black and want to know about african history, look up the people of
Timbuktu, very impressive!
Nicely said

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#137 Oct 7, 2008
sice1234 wrote:
First off their weren't 700 hundred black moors, it was 6'000 black moors and 1'000 Arab moors. In total 7'000 moors entered Europe in 711 ad. They conquered Europe for 700 hundred years! If you don't believe the moors were black, then google African popes. GOOGLE AFRICAN POPES AND EMPERORS!
Ha ha ha ha, and i thought i'd heard everything. I have nothing against black people but you are pathetic and naive believing this crap you are being served
Ares

Saint Albans, VT

#138 Nov 1, 2008
Keep on reading and don't forget to diversify your literary absorptions.
dr history

Mission, KS

#139 Nov 5, 2008
the moors are a tribe of non-negro africans who were conquered and colonized by the arabs. sorry to all the african-americans who ignorantly believe the tripe written above. instead of wasting your time quoting wrong and outdated materials and authors, maybe you should go to africa and europe for your education, i did!
amar kerchit

Deerfield Beach, FL

#140 Nov 19, 2008
This is a message to all white supremacists and black revisionists.
I am a moor from Algeria aim a Berber and I am not black , and neither is any Berber I know in Algeria, morocco or Tunisia.
The Berbers who were with Tarik Ibin Ziyad were not black, unstead they looked like me (look at Zidan the soccer player) or they were blonde like many Berbers are today.
And who told you that the moors were black, were did you get this from?
Can you please study before you write down things you are not sure of?
The moors are Mediterranean people, which mean that they belong to the white race, but they are on the darker side of the white race much like people from Sicily, southern Spain and other areas of the Mediterranean.
Now there are of course dark skinned people in Algeria and much more in morocco and on a lesser level in Tunisia but % 80 to 90 percent of the people are all dark skinned whites.
We do have some blacks in Algeria but they most likely live in the Sahara desert and some in the west , close to morocco, and their percentage I would say varies from one region to another but in general in Algeria the black population is less than % 7, in morocco 10 to % 15 percent and in Tunisia 10 percent also.
But know that the original Berbers and moors were white some of them even Scandinavian looking.
Aim a Muslim Berber and aim % 1000000000 percent proud to be a Muslim, but that doesn't change to point out many historical misconceptions used by filthy Nazis and filthy Afro centrist to validate their origins. In this case the afros feel like they need to prove that they had a great past therefore they say all kind of unsustainable things; like the Egyptians were black and the moors were black Africans and such and such and the euro centrists also say some horrific stories about the Egyptians, the Sumerian and the Babylonians.
Please read some valuable books before you write and jolt down things.
Our great scholar and imam Al Shafii said (I wish that I have never written anything) FROM fear that Allah might ask him about the many books he wrote and what’s in them.
And I conclude by saying that we are all the same ,and you know why aim right because at the end of the day we all need to sleep, eat drink and then build toilets to dump the excess. No nation or people is or are better than any other but by deeds. You do good you are good, you do bad you are bad.
Use this as the measurement of people and nations, then you will know that some were maybe better than others but by deeds only.
A MAURI FROM MOROCCO

Belfast, UK

#141 Nov 20, 2008
moor wrote:
<quoted text>
If white people are disgusting to you, why live in a country filled with them? You seem like a true hypocrite, or you don't want to admit the sad truth about most african countries, or even Haiti.
We don't make black people feel sad about themselves, you do! You're the one feeling like you need to create this illusion, I don't even think most blacks feel the way you do. If they did, there would be a hell of a lot more black people commenting on threads like this. It's silly delusional people with an emptiness inside them that make up these lies. You so desperately want it to be true! How sad.
You Sir are obviously an Afrocentriste!
I am a Mauri or as you know say in the English language a moor; for your information I am a white mediterranean, more commonly called a Berber,My ancestors occupied Spain for nearly 800 years; all of my ancestors were white mediterraneans like my self. The dark skinned moors or, if you prefer, black ones were freed slaves,taken from the southern sahara; where the indigenous white Moors/Berbers captured them.
I know this to be fact; as passed down to me by my ancestral family, from many generations, to the present day from my father.
The word mauri or,moor in English means a person with brown/brunet hair, not a black skinned person.
When people think of Africa they think that every body that comes from Africa is black this is wrong, the indigenous population of North Africa
are the Berbers, who are a white mediterranean race. They were called by the ancient Greeks, who ventured to North Africa, the Blond-Africans;
because a proportion of their population had blond hair and blue eyes; as some of my family do.
Also the word Africa comes from the Berbers who inhabited North Eastern Tunisia; these Berbers called their land Ifriqiya, and they called themselves Ifrans. Which comes from the Berber word Ifri, which means cave; in other words this ancient people lived in caves. whence the word Africa, a Berber word. From a white mediterranean race.
Askenaziboy

Imperial Beach, CA

#142 Nov 22, 2008
originally posted by Knight:

"I'm not white. I'm Native American.
Arikara tribe with Mandan and Hidatsa (northern
plains of the Dakotas)....but since you assumed
my comments we're being racist since I don't agree
that it matters much what color people are I digress. Why? Because no matter what I say or post
factual or otherwise, one cannot argue with someone's passion and/or ignorance. "

bull sh i t, looking at your picture, you are obviously white, you're fooling anyone you lying mo th erfuc ker

genetically, I'm 3% East Asian and mostly white and I will never go around saying that I'm Oriental because having a small drop of other ethnic blood in you doesn't give you the right to ignore what you're mainly are.

and what's up with Anglo
bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#143 Nov 26, 2008
I guess you white berber are unaware of black berber and black moors. You are not the ancient Moors but the present day moors and berber who happens to be station in Northwest africa due to the Conquestion of Islam. Shakespare, ancient historian stephanus, the Romans, and the Spainard themselves have given description of the moors prior to your medium migration to Northwest africa. I am Black man. My anceint ancestor has been in Amercain for more than 400 years but we all know that the indigenous inhabitants are the native of Americans. It doesn't matter that you live in Northwest African now. 1500 years ago your ancestor was still in the middle east. It was 10,000 black African military men who invade spain. They were called Moors (Latin Mauros and Greek Marues and Roman Moors which translate into Black). If your face isn't black, it is very likely that your ancient ancestor were not the same Moors that invaded Spain. Remember because you live in a land doesn't mean you are the original inhabitants of that land (just the present day inhabitants). Look People truth is nothing but one.
bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#144 Nov 26, 2008
Many whites and arabs believe that afrocentric thought is attempting to steal their history. I can provide evidence of over a hundred authors in various fields of thought, osteological evidence, genetic evidence, geographic trends in bio-diversity evidence, anthropology and archeology evidence that the ancient Kmts and Moors were black people. Since the onset of record keeping, the Kmts and Moors have repeatedly been describe as Black peruse or read the following authors: Berorus, Herdotus, Strabo, Diodorus, Count Volney, Cheronnet Champollion, Marius Fontanes, Albert Churchward, Gerald Massey, Gaston Maspero, Karl R Lepsius, Brice, Fabre, d'Oliver, Arnold Herren, Walis Budge, Stanly lang Poole, and Anne Gibbons. If you non-believers read the above mentioned renowned authors, perhaps the truth would liberate you but my guess is that you are naturally bias and lack a critical eye to examine the above firsthand information. Most of those authors were the first to study acient materials. It was their conclusions to the facts that causes such much alarm and hate.
I bet u white-berber-arab muslims didn't know that Prophet Muhummad biological father was darker than the darkest night. Have you ever heard of certain book "Superiority of the Black over the Whites." It was written by a certain brilliant arab scholar around the conquest of Islam into Africa. This arab author over 1500 years ago describe black africans dominating the middle east, india, and spain; not the white arabs. What I've just said is data collected from ancient historian.
bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#145 Nov 26, 2008
"The Ethipians, the Berbers, the Copts, the Nubians, the Zaghawa, the Moors, the People of Sind, the Hindus, the Qamar, the Dabila, the Chinese, and those beyond them...the islands in the seas...are full of the blacks... up to Hinduston and China," Al-Jahiz. Al-Jahiz was Born 776 in Basra southern Iraq. He wrote the famous arabic prose "Book of the Glory of the Blacks over the whites." Historically speaking it is funny how fast the world can change.
A MAURI FROM MOROCCO

Belfast, UK

#146 Nov 30, 2008
bryant wrote:
"The Ethipians, the Berbers, the Copts, the Nubians, the Zaghawa, the Moors, the People of Sind, the Hindus, the Qamar, the Dabila, the Chinese, and those beyond them...the islands in the seas...are full of the blacks... up to Hinduston and China," Al-Jahiz. Al-Jahiz was Born 776 in Basra southern Iraq. He wrote the famous arabic prose "Book of the Glory of the Blacks over the whites." Historically speaking it is funny how fast the world can change.
You do not know what you are talking about!
Go to North Africa and go and see the Berber tribes of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya,
you will not see any Black Berbers Because they don`t exist! The black people you will find are the descendants of the Berber slaves!!!
And as for the Touareg they are not Berbers,
they are closely related to the Beja people of the Soudan.
The whole of North Africa including Northern Egypt was originally inhabited by the Berbers who are a white Mediterranean race.
You can say what you like, you can`t change the facts of history; North Africa is a Berber domain.
Archaeology and DNA analysis has proven that the Original inhabitants were the BERBERS !!!
Bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#147 Nov 30, 2008
Go to North America and please count the natives. In fact, North America natives are becoming whiter and whiter, native have been almost white-washed.

Ancient records are best source for describing ancient times. So, let the ancient speak. Where do we get the word Moors from? It is a description of a people given by another people. When the Greeks encounter the people of Northeast african they called them ethiopians (burned faces supposely). When the Romans came in contact with the african in the Northwest region they called them Maures (this name Mauritania in ancient times meant land of the blacks); and in latin they called them Mauros. Maures and Mauros means black. We all know that when a land is conquer after many centuries the conquerors usually stomp-out the natives. Just like here in the good-old-USA where once upon a time, the natives lived in great numbers; however, today, that just isn't the case. They are the minorites. Northafrica is experiencing the same stomp-out of the natives. The white berbers and moors are converts, living off the past glory of a beaten people. Of course, the present day moors are moors--white or black. Nontheless, they are not the same moors that invaded Spain about 1400 years ago. Tarik and 10,000 original black moors (double negative) are Moors that is so glorified in History.

"Ethiopians, the Berbers, the Copts, the Nubians, the Zaghawa, the Moors, the people of Sind, the Hndus, the Qumar, the Dabila, the chinese, and those beyond them.. the islands in the seas.. are full of blacks up to Hinduston and chinese." This quote from the book "Glory of the Blacks over the Whites," written by Al-Jahiz. Al-Jahiz was born in Basra southern Iraq in 776 BCE. He was one of arabs greatest scholar.

You want to throw all the ancient scholars out of the equation. You have a white superiority complex. Nothing meanful can come from black hands. Wake up young spirit.
bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#148 Dec 1, 2008
Over time, an ugly development in the history of the Moors began: The initiation and growth of the aquisition of white slaves as a prevalent aspect of its culture. The trade was began by a a Jewish element which began to buy and sell captured Slavs and Germans as laborers and concubines. the polygamous tendencies of the Islamic Black Moors encouraged this development and contributed to the lightening of the complexion of the Moorish element over time. It also contributed to a degeneration of values. The Ummayyad dynasty became ripe foe overthrow and in 1031 Christian forces achieved their defeat and brought the dynasty to a close.
Over time, an ugly development in the history of the Moors began: The initiation and growth of the aquisition of white slaves as a prevalent aspect of its culture. The trade was began by a a Jewish element which began to buy and sell captured Slavs and Germans as laborers and concubines. the polygamous tendencies of the Islamic Black Moors encouraged this development and contributed to the lightening of the complexion of the Moorish element over time. It also contributed to a degeneration of values. The Ummayyad dynasty became ripe foe overthrow and in 1031 Christian forces achieved their defeat and brought the dynasty to a close.
bryant

Keego Harbor, MI

#149 Dec 1, 2008
But just who were the Moors anyway? Indeed, as early as the Middle Ages and as late as the seventeenth century, "The Moors were," according to the Oxford English Dictionary, "commonly supposed to be mostly black or very swarthy, and hence the word is often used for negro." Dr. Chancellor Williams stated that "The original Moors, like the original Egyptians, were Black Africans." To the Christians of early Europe there was no question regarding the ethnicity of the Moors and numerous sources support the view that, at the very least, a significant portion of the Moors were black-skinned people.

Morien, for example, is the adventure of a heroic Moorish knight supposed to have lived during the days of King Arthur. Morien is described as "all black: his head, his body, and his hands were all black." In the French epic known as the Song of Roland the Moors are described as "blacker than ink." William Shakespeare used the word Moor as a synonym for African.

I don't know how you can get white from the following. Don't tell these are misquotes, misinterpretation, lies, and conjectures. When you have hundreds of sources and artifacts, you have rise your thoughts above preconceived notions. What you see now, is what seems to be but it is not what is.
TROY

Minneapolis, MN

#152 Jan 30, 2009
POINT IS ALL THE EARLY EVIDENCE SAIDS THE MOORS AND EGYPTIANS ARE BLACK AKA NEGRO YET THOSE WHITES AND NON BLACKS SEEKING TO SAVE FACE SAY DIFFRENT GREEKS SAIDS BOTH WERE BLACK GREEKS THE ONES THERE TO SEE IT YET PEOPLE FAR DOWN THE LINE THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER WHO NEVER HAD BEEN THERE WHILE THNE SAY DIFFRENT REMEMBER IN SCHOOL HOW THINGS GET PASSED AROUND FIRST IT IS TRUE YET AFTER ABOUT 7 OR 8 PEOPLE 7 OR 8 DAYS IT GET TWISTED SAME THING HERE WHITE PEOPLE ARE CLEVER AT TWISTING THE FACTS BUT AVOIDING THE TRUTH WHY MUST ALL OF YOU FIGHT AND HATE US ABOUT THINGS U WISH U HAD DONE BUT HAD NOT

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