Were the Moors Black?

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#483
Aug 11, 2012
 
My family known the Moors were black.
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#484
Aug 12, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
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Where? Let me guess. Egypt? And today's Egyptians have nothing to do with Ancient Egypt but American Blacks do!!!!!!
You see American Blacks feel entitled to welfare, affirmative actions and why not? history.
sound bitter
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#485
Aug 12, 2012
 
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European academics have white washed history. Very true. We know that the Mende went to the moon, that West Africans used to take leisurly cruises to Central Mexico, that they were called Moors and spoke Arabic and built the Alhambra, that they built the Pyramids but then cruel Romans, Greeks, Arabs kicked them out and now they only build mud huts and are not even interested in running water. We know that they didn't use the alphabet because they found out that knowledge could be better archived in the heads of village song and dance men. You see whilst "Whites" had Universities, manuscripts, books etc, sub-Saharans found a better and simple method - self-appointed song and dance men telling you everything, just like that.
Funny enough the Moors (Berbers) in North Africa and Egypt have a generic and historic name for all Black people They call them "abid" which means slave and it is not meant to be insulting.
All early eyewitnesses only speak of black moors. You are jsut an insecure white male who really feel inadeqate to blacks.
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#486
Aug 12, 2012
 
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First of all American Blacks are descended from West African slaves sold by other West Africans to European traders. They have nothing to do with Egyptians or with Moors.
The Moors who went to Spain call themselves Amazigh. YouTube "Amazigh" to see what they look like. And if you want to see what the Berber kings looked like 2,000 years ago YouTube "Amazigh History"
The Moors, of course, enslaved sub-Saharans for over 1,000 years, transported millions of them across the Sahara Indeed the Moors have called Blacks, since the time of Moorish Spain up to today, "abid" which means precisely "slave"
They don't call Whites or Europeans "abid" only Black people. From the Atlantic coast of Morocco to the easternmost part of the Middle East, Blacks are referred to as "abid" because basically that was their profession. One would conclude that being slaves would hardly qualify them to "civilize" anyone, as you put it.
AL Mansur was a powerful moorish king who was born to a black mother and a part black, part arab father.

According to abu shama, the masmuda berbers were black africans who ruled several parts of spain and al of portuguel at one time. They were the almohad moors.

Alphonso X described the 4 moorish kings of aragon as 3 being mulato and the 4th one a pure negro by the name of mulai muhammed. They were part of the almorivid moors.

Can you give me one moorish king who was not black or mualato?
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Aug 12, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
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First of all American Blacks are descended from West African slaves sold by other West Africans to European traders. They have nothing to do with Egyptians or with Moors.
The Moors who went to Spain call themselves Amazigh. YouTube "Amazigh" to see what they look like. And if you want to see what the Berber kings looked like 2,000 years ago YouTube "Amazigh History"
The Moors, of course, enslaved sub-Saharans for over 1,000 years, transported millions of them across the Sahara Indeed the Moors have called Blacks, since the time of Moorish Spain up to today, "abid" which means precisely "slave"
They don't call Whites or Europeans "abid" only Black people. From the Atlantic coast of Morocco to the easternmost part of the Middle East, Blacks are referred to as "abid" because basically that was their profession. One would conclude that being slaves would hardly qualify them to "civilize" anyone, as you put it.
nagaymath turquio
song of roalnd
merchant of vienece
morein
othello

these are famous moorish characters of early lit; they are all black; where are the mideast moorish characters of early lit?
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#488
Aug 12, 2012
 
LION wrote:
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nagaymath turquio
song of roalnd
merchant of vienece
morein
othello
these are famous moorish characters of early lit; they are all black; where are the mideast moorish characters of early lit?
Your spelling is not as good as that of a European 9 year-old.

Four of these are fictional characters and none relates to the Moors in Spain
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#489
Aug 12, 2012
 
Gene Black wrote:
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I have had many young white boys and girls
tell me they have questioned their teachers
and parents about who black people really
are I tell them the truth the black man
was once the only man on earth to be
worshipped as a GOD
AND THAT THERE WAS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN A WHITE
JESUS
May I suggest to identify the Lost Tribes of Israel log on to "Lost tribes found." I have thrre list from sperate sources. Afro Americans are at the top of the list hailing from the tribe of Judah, native Americans/Gad, Haitins (Levi).
TheTruthHurts

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#493
Aug 22, 2012
 
kickyourbutt wrote:
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First off Cracker, We civilized Europe. If it wasn't for us, you would still be in the dark ages in filth. White people in America get more welfare then black do. After all, they out number us. Affirmative action was put in place to help middle age white women more then it helps blacks dip $hit.
LOL!!!!! Civilized Europe? You people?
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#494
Aug 23, 2012
 
TheTruthHurts wrote:
The Whites are caught up in their own racist games.

They invented the notion of race based on the color of skin. For racist Whites, there are three races: the White race (ethnic Europeans), the Black race (dark brown skinned people) and the Yellow race (the so called Mongoloid race).

In order to prove their racial superiority over the Black race, they created powerful negative images of Blacks across the world and presented Black Africa as the Land of Tarzan and savages.(Tarzanization of Africa).

The reality is that Whites are imposters and Dravidian mutant cave dwellers from Central Asia who have gone from civilization from civilization across the world burning artifacts so that they can make false claim of superiority.

The truth is that Whites are not aboriginal to Europe, North Africa even Western Asia. Their homeland is somewhere in Central Asia (Afghanistan or Northern Pakistan). Just look at the Nuristani (blond hair, milk white skin, blue eyes etc). They still live in caves just like the Whites did before moving to Europe and other parts of world

The original inhabitants of Western Europe were dark brown skinned people who migrated from Africa. They are called the Mouros by the Portuguese and the Spaniards or Mairu by the Basque. They built the megalithic civilization. They mysteriously disappeared either massacred or absorbed by invading White tribes.

The so called European languages are a mix of languages

from India: The White tribes from Central Asia invaded India, bred out the Natives and claimed their identity. Sanskrit

from Africa: The White tribes from Central Asia invaded ancient Africa, which extended as far as Western Europe. They bred out the Natives and claimed their identity. The Somalid e1b1b is found in Europe as far as Iceland.

from Asia: The White tribes from Central Asia have kept some of the words of their original languages.

The Whites have lied their way into history since they achieved dominance when the Moors were defeated a 1492.

I have been asking the following questions over and over again with no clear answers from the Whites

1) Why do you share the e1b1b with East Africans and yet no European looks like an Ethiopian?

2) Why do noble Europeans have crowned Moorish WOMEN on their coats of arms?

3) Why are images of early Catholic Saints from North Africa or Western Asia hidden or doctored?

4) Why were the most ancient cities across Europe founded by Africans like Barcelona, Carthagena, Mortain, Mortagne

5) Why are there entire provinces in Northern and Southern France with names like Pays des Maures de Bretagne (Land of the Moors of Brittany), Pays des Maures Côte d'Azur (Land of the Moors of the Riviera?

6) Why do the Moors (pre Muslim and Muslim) have so much influence across Europe?

7) Why are there thousands of images of Blacks in Western art. Some of them date back from the Neolithic period?

The so-called Western civilization was built on the back of the 1) Phoenician civilization (Europe is even the name of a Phoenician Princess), 2) the Egyptian civilization (ancient Egyptians established colonies in Southern Greece). Southern Greeks have 47% of Somalid genes and 3) the Moorish civilization (pre-Muslim and Muslim).

Dark brown skinned people from Africa founded brilliant civilizations and powerful empires or kingdoms that were destroyed by Europeans like the Kingdom of Kongo. The Kingdom had embassies in Europe (Holland, Portugal and Vatican).

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#495
Oct 9, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
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Your spelling is not as good as that of a European 9 year-old.
Four of these are fictional characters and none relates to the Moors in Spain
Then why arent there any fictioanl nonblack moors?
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#496
Oct 10, 2012
 
No the Berbers were not Black. The Berbers call themselves Amazigh (YouTube "Amazigh") to see what they look like.

In North Africa and Egypt the generic word for Black is "abid" which means "slave"
Gene Black wrote:
Thanks for responding to the post the truth is very important to young blacks and young whites
in America so that true facts can be implanted into their minds the media has forgotten to mention the fact that the 700 Berbers were black
people they were instramental in civilizing white Spain at a time when the whole of Europe regarded bathing as a sin the moors built over 200 public
bathes in Spain and many other great inventions
please see my well documented post why I cannot hate whites or envy whites
I consider that an insult.
ps please respond to my post in a professional
manner
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#497
Oct 10, 2012
 
Are there no schools as we know them where you live?
James Clipper Jr wrote:
<quoted text> May I suggest to identify the Lost Tribes of Israel log on to "Lost tribes found." I have thrre list from sperate sources. Afro Americans are at the top of the list hailing from the tribe of Judah, native Americans/Gad, Haitins (Levi).
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#498
Oct 10, 2012
 
The actual crackers, the people who cracked the whip on slaves were mostly Black (Negro) foremen.

The Moors (the Berbers and Arabs of Moorish Spain) were of course not Black. There are a number of paintings and friezes in the Granada Cathedral showing Moors being baptized etc. They look totally European wearing different clothes.

The Moors who were kicked out of Spain by the Spaniards have kept their own identity in North Africa with large communities in Tetuan, Xauén, Fez, Rabat, Salé. They call themselves Andalusi and have retained their musical instruments, cuisine, architecture. I spoke with them in Morocco and also visited the area where they came from. For example 4,000 of them were forced out of a beautiful village in Extremadura and established a pirate port called "The Republic of Salé" I went to this village and found out that the Alcalde (Mayor) of the village became Alcalde of Salé.

No doubt you know this being a researcher of the Moors. Now these Moors who call themselves Andalusi want to live in Spain! They are petitioning the Spanish government to let them in. I attach the names of 4 YouTube videos about them in Arabic and Spanish (the languages of North Africa and Spain which shouldn't be a problem to a researcher of the Spanish Moors like you.) You will note that they are not Black but absolutely and totally Caucasoid as they always were.

These YouTube videos have these headings:
1.Los hijos de Al Andalus
2.Somos (la segunda expulsion)
3.Nassim el andalous
4.La Diaspora andalusi del reino de Granada

They did have a great culture in Spain but like occupiers they were cruel and were kicked out. The people who told you that the Moors were Black are basically idiots.


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#499
Oct 10, 2012
 
I can give you the name, surname, year of death, named discoveries or works of every prominent Greek of that era sometimes even with a statue of him. Now you give me the same for the "Africans" who taught the Greeks as you say
Bjizzle wrote:
Hey Knight,
Dont take offense by the reality of the world we live in is not equal....and dont mistake the fact of me saying so as me stating you as a white citizen owes me anything. Now when people such as myself point out these places of non equal situations, its again not to say u owe me anything but to simple try to change things and make a difference. I also had to learn my peoples history on my own...because no k-12th grade textbook told me the riches of African history. The first Medical Text learned by the Greeks was ......African.......The first Greek philosophers learned where.....Africa. The first University for higher learning ....Africa. The birthplace where Monotheism and polytheism. Also scewed history leads us to think of the so called Dark ages as a terrible time of plague and disaster from over population of Europe.....which is true although in this same time Africa reasserted herself as the world Super Power because African became sick of Europeans coming to Africa and stealing slave and exploiting its people and natural resources of Gold, Diamonds, etc. There was a mass revolt and sent the whites running back to Europe penniless and poor...creating overpopulation due the fact Europeans had large populations of whites in Africa at the time...History Untold....but damn it I felt good to know my history isnt the war and poverty stricken Africa we see today due to White exploitation of Africa..even today We know Africa as the most abondant continent on Earth...(90% of the worlds Diamonds, Gold, Uranium, and even lot of oil....but they continue to be the poorest people on earth......while the industrial powers(Euro) at work revel in the wealth it brings them and in turn the pain it brings Africans. European powers know that when Africa is stable politically and otherwise the price of these precious commodities will rise drastically. Thats why we sit back and watch Darfur and Sudan genocides kill millions while we liberate Iraq. The truth is Darfur and Sudan, even with its genocides.....it is controlled madness....so we do nothing. But Iraq and its oil was far from controlled.....but aaha now it is.
LION

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#500
Oct 15, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
No the Berbers were not Black. The Berbers call themselves Amazigh (YouTube "Amazigh") to see what they look like.
In North Africa and Egypt the generic word for Black is "abid" which means "slave"
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The ancient egyptians were mulato with black nubia being the foundation.
Black nubia ruled egypt's 25th and 26th dynasties.
BLack nubia is older then mulato egypt.
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Oct 15, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
No the Berbers were not Black. The Berbers call themselves Amazigh (YouTube "Amazigh") to see what they look like.
In North Africa and Egypt the generic word for Black is "abid" which means "slave"
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Nearly all early writers only wrote of black moors.
Most moorish coat of arms have negroes on them.
What is your answer to that?
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Oct 16, 2012
 
My answer to that is that there are no Moorish coat of arms for starters. Secondly arising from that there are no Negroes on them

There are some European coat of arms with profiles of European people painted black. There are also some coat of arms (with usually four Negroes) These are not portraits. They all have the same face. There are also unicorns, dragons, lions, elves. I assure you there were no unicorns in Europe.

If you intend to "show" that Negroes were nobility or whatever, you give me proof. Proof is documentation in any European language to prov it.
LION wrote:
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Nearly all early writers only wrote of black moors.
Most moorish coat of arms have negroes on them.
What is your answer to that?

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#504
Oct 17, 2012
 
So sorry for the double posting
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Oct 18, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
My answer to that is that there are no Moorish coat of arms for starters. Secondly arising from that there are no Negroes on them
There are some European coat of arms with profiles of European people painted black. There are also some coat of arms (with usually four Negroes) These are not portraits. They all have the same face. There are also unicorns, dragons, lions, elves. I assure you there were no unicorns in Europe.
If you intend to "show" that Negroes were nobility or whatever, you give me proof. Proof is documentation in any European language to prov it.
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On "CROWN OF ARAGON" wiki, there are for negro moors on a coat of arms which represents to 4 moorish kings of aragon.
King Alphonso X described 3 as being mulato and the 4th one a pure negro by the name of mulai mahummad who was from nigeria. Just google up crown of aragon and the caption of the black moorish kings are on the right side halfwayu down.
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Oct 18, 2012
 
Marco wrote:
My answer to that is that there are no Moorish coat of arms for starters. Secondly arising from that there are no Negroes on them
There are some European coat of arms with profiles of European people painted black. There are also some coat of arms (with usually four Negroes) These are not portraits. They all have the same face. There are also unicorns, dragons, lions, elves. I assure you there were no unicorns in Europe.
If you intend to "show" that Negroes were nobility or whatever, you give me proof. Proof is documentation in any European language to prov it.
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More proof?
Well if the moors were not negro then othello would have been described as middle eastern or white.
If the moors were not negro then the current pope would not have a black moor on his coat of arms.
IF the moors were not negro then there should be one writer who wrote of a nonblack moor in early lit but there is not one.

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