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TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Mar 7, 2013
Sheila wrote:
It seemed "pretty good?" That's what I want for my child is a "pretty good" school. TTU, did you ask for test scores and ask where SH ranks among national scores? Did you ask the percentage of 8th graders that go on to IWA, CBC, etc.?? Did you review their curriculum and structure? Call me crazy, but kindergartners shouldn't be learning shapes, colors and numbers, they should be learning to read at that point. At the time we researched EVERY private school in Florissant and SH was quickly taken off the list. Internet reviews were horriable, current parents and parents of graduates seemed dissapointed or disgruntled. We even spoke with college age students who graduated from there who said it was a cake walk and they struggled during their secondary education. We know one family who transferred their child from SH to Norberts and their child had to play catch up! Everyone has every right to choose their own school, all I'm saying is to do your research first!
We actually did quite a bit of research. Our kids are very high academically (95-99%tile--mostly 99, in all subjects).

My wife is an elementary teacher and has quite the BS antenna. We toured the school in spring '08 and maybe things have changed, but the kindergarteners were reading typical sight words, etc. They used tracking and scores were reasonably high then. Standard distribution amongst the selective admission and college prep HSs for a N County grade school.

We sensed nothing amiss or out of the ordinary. Quite frankly, it seemed like an above average or better elementary school then. Didn't seem to hear many complaints.

Maybe its gone down hill--anyone else care to comment??
hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Mar 8, 2013
take a look at how many blacks attend the school you're looking at, that will tell you alot. go there when school is letting out and watch how many blacks come out and get on the bus.
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#23 Mar 8, 2013
hardhead wrote:
take a look at how many blacks attend the school you're looking at, that will tell you alot. go there when school is letting out and watch how many blacks come out and get on the bus.
Actually, from the private schools we looked at, we ended up picking the one with the most black students by far. The difference is that at that school, they weren't thugs. That school has a dethugging program that seems to work--the kids buy in or leave basically. Some of the city magnets and academies are more or less dethugged also.

So what is weird is that if you live in the city of StL you can go to an integrated school with a pretty low thug ratio, e.g., a high performing academy, but if you go to FFSD or HSD you are pretty much thrown in the general inmate population, swimming in an ocean of thugs with all of the attendant issues, i.e., violence intimidation, special coddling and lax discipline, loss of instructional time and "equity" meaning everybody is taught together regardless of ability of actual educational attainment, at least until the high school level, where, if you can schedule it your kid can weave around things a bit with AP classes with different hall and lunch schedules, at least for now, but there are persons trying to dismantle those "oppressive" and "privileged" programs, because again, remember, its about "equity" the magic word.
Sheila

Saint Louis, MO

#24 Mar 8, 2013
I'm wondering why TTU's kids didn't go to SH if its so wonderful and above average? If TTU did pick another school OVER Sacred Heart then that school MUST BE top notch! So why is he recommending another school over the one he chose? Odd.......
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#25 Mar 8, 2013
Sheila wrote:
I'm wondering why TTU's kids didn't go to SH if its so wonderful and above average? If TTU did pick another school OVER Sacred Heart then that school MUST BE top notch! So why is he recommending another school over the one he chose? Odd.......
I was not recommending any particular school. Just saying that we were well impressed at the time with SH.

That is a personal decision amongst several quite good choices, IMHO.
Catholic Schools

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Mar 10, 2013
That is not happening now and hasn't been happening for a while in HSD! Students are both taught in small groups by abilities and within a whole class as well, so what you are saying about HSD does not apply NOW!
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#27 Mar 10, 2013
Catholic Schools wrote:
That is not happening now and hasn't been happening for a while in HSD! Students are both taught in small groups by abilities and within a whole class as well, so what you are saying about HSD does not apply NOW!
That's news to me. Out kids have been out of the HSD for several years now but our last experience was that the schools were implementing the rote teaching methods popular in urban shcools.

I lack recent first hand info, but several of our kids' former HSD teachers are parents in their new schools, and the reports we have received have been bleak to put it nicely, but I have not specifically asked them about grouping students by ability.

One thing that I was told is that the middle school teachers no longer give homework because the kids weren't doing it.

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