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Hardhead

Eureka, MO

#1 Jan 16, 2013
j & n market on florissant road robbed last night at 7:00 pm. guess who, black male 6 foot tall used a gun. ran to the apts.
Hardhead

Eureka, MO

#3 Jan 16, 2013
yea, we should give him some spending money, alittle walking around change.
Yeah there is crime

Florissant, MO

#4 Jan 16, 2013
Hardhead wrote:
j & n market on florissant road robbed last night at 7:00 pm. guess who, black male 6 foot tall used a gun. ran to the apts.
here and everywhere. What I don't get is why you people think you should be immune to the problems that every other city faces? I can only assume you are so arrogant and egotistical that you feel you shouldn't have to deal with the same things millions of other people do every day.
Do black males commit most of the crime, it seems so. And that is something that just about every community has to deal with sooner or later and some more than others.
Complainers and malcontents do nothing to solve the situation but it probably makes them feel important when the do hold their personal "moan and groan" meetings. Get involved in your city or get out. Whichever, but at least stop wasting time bitchin' rather than doing.
Hardhead

Eureka, MO

#5 Jan 16, 2013
get rid of the apts. and they will be like rats running off a sinking ship. this is where the problems are. sec. 8 housing bringing them all in. it's not my fault the guy was black that robbed the store. we've made it easy for them. someday the bad guy gonna meet up with someone who has a ccw permit and problem solved!
Alton has

Florissant, MO

#7 Jan 16, 2013
Reverend Vegas wrote:
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You're wrong. not every city deals with this on a daily basis like we do. That's crap. They didn't relocate nSTL ghetto to Alton, IL. Sure there's crime...but not like ours. Someone isn't getting robbed EVERY DAY there. I'm from upstate New York. I didn't see robberies there every day. You want to know what the difference was? Of course you don't...
had 5 incidents of theft, 1 incident of drugs, 3 burglaries in the last 7 days. It also has a black population comparative to Florissant.

So how is it that, as you state Alton doesn't have the problems that Florissant does because of the black population of Florissant?
The fact is the all the criminals are not for the most part from Florissant or Alton or Hazelwood. They are from areas such as St.Louis City. Now what is your solution for keeping outside criminals from entering the city? Do you not realize that the city's 'hands are tied" when it comes to, for example screening people for housing? Or even going into a residence without just cause to check who is living there?

You all have a lot of gripes but offer no solutions except for comments like "nuke the city" and "hunting season on ALL blacks" and other ignorant comments.
Not happening

Florissant, MO

#9 Jan 16, 2013
Hardhead wrote:
get rid of the apts. and they will be like rats running off a sinking ship. this is where the problems are. sec. 8 housing bringing them all in. it's not my fault the guy was black that robbed the store. we've made it easy for them. someday the bad guy gonna meet up with someone who has a ccw permit and problem solved!
I have no idea if eliminating apartments and Sec. 8/HUD housing would be a solution. But I do know it will never happen because it legally cannot happen.

Perhaps not everyone in the forum lived in Florissant when the federal Justice Department sued the city for civil rights violations and discrimination laws. The city spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on the original suit and appeals. They lost.

There is no way the law can be changed unless there is a U.S. Constitutional amendment doing so. It is not the city officials/governments fault they are absolutely powerless. Why bankrupt the city treasury (which almost happened in the 70's when the ACLU and Justice Department sued) on something that is futile.

IMO the FPD is doing their job to the best of their ability but Florissant annexed so much area so quickly and did not allow the FPD to keep pace. If you notice the reports that are available,(for instance the guy who was arrested for child molestation) almost every criminal apprehended lives or lived in an area that was incorporated STLC and is now within the city limits of Florissant.

That's not to say that the criminals wouldn't have crossed the city boundaries but it is just an example of how wide spread and how convoluted the city limits now are. The FPD has almost twice as much territory of jurisdiction because it is spread out in such a bizarre manner. At Vaile and Patterson you turn right and it is the county you turn left and it is the county for a couple of blocks and then it's Florissant. You travel to Lindbergh which is Florissant on one side and the County on the other. Other areas are even more confusing and it is extremely difficult to keep on top of crime when the geographical boundaries are such a mess.

Crime that used to be attributed to STLC is now Florissant's problem which a lot of people never take into account when hearing about it. As long as it wasn't in "their city" they simply didn't care. So the crime rate hasn't risen in Flo it's just that the city has aquired a larger area that used to be the county and therefore acquired the crimes and other problems (subsidized housing, etc.) along with it. Crime is crime no matter where it happens and no matter whether it directly affects you or not.
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Jan 16, 2013
Alton has wrote:
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had 5 incidents of theft, 1 incident of drugs, 3 burglaries in the last 7 days. It also has a black population comparative to Florissant.
So how is it that, as you state Alton doesn't have the problems that Florissant does because of the black population of Florissant?
The fact is the all the criminals are not for the most part from Florissant or Alton or Hazelwood. They are from areas such as St.Louis City. Now what is your solution for keeping outside criminals from entering the city? Do you not realize that the city's 'hands are tied" when it comes to, for example screening people for housing? Or even going into a residence without just cause to check who is living there?
You all have a lot of gripes but offer no solutions except for comments like "nuke the city" and "hunting season on ALL blacks" and other ignorant comments.
there in lays the problem they come up here to visit their relatives which should have never got a loan to buy the house their in to start with. how about some code inforcment and see who living in these homes before they start tearing them up. make them clean up their filth, and no baby daddy's hanging around or staying there. better yet when the blacks don't pay their garbage,sewer,tax's chase them out. when they don't cut their grass or keep the place looking livable chase them out. write the some tickets and if they don't pay put them in a cage where they belong in the first place. i'm tired of dealing with their dirty,unkept homes. take a look at the stores and parking lots in the city they just throw their trash on the ground. you never seen this until the blacks moved in. they have ruined the area. you can tell just drive down hallsferry and the blacker it gets the dirty it looks, godforbid don't go on the other side of 270. the world would be a better place if you could push a button and there would be no more blacks.
OldFlo

Florissant, MO

#11 Jan 16, 2013
Hardhead, I agree with all your points. Its an inferior culture and its getting worse and worse as they are given more and more handouts. But the problem is the culture, not the skin. Blacks in Europe are just normal people. The ones in england don't even speak any differently then the other Brits
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Jan 17, 2013
Alton has wrote:
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had 5 incidents of theft, 1 incident of drugs, 3 burglaries in the last 7 days. It also has a black population comparative to Florissant.
So how is it that, as you state Alton doesn't have the problems that Florissant does because of the black population of Florissant?
The fact is the all the criminals are not for the most part from Florissant or Alton or Hazelwood. They are from areas such as St.Louis City. Now what is your solution for keeping outside criminals from entering the city? Do you not realize that the city's 'hands are tied" when it comes to, for example screening people for housing? Or even going into a residence without just cause to check who is living there?
You all have a lot of gripes but offer no solutions except for comments like "nuke the city" and "hunting season on ALL blacks" and other ignorant comments.
alton does have it's problems with the blacks, except they keep to their own little area just north of town.drive though there and look, run down and junk all over the place just like any where else the blacks are. you know what ALTON stands for " a little town of negros"
Sorry but

Florissant, MO

#13 Jan 17, 2013
Hardhead wrote:
<quoted text> there in lays the problem they come up here to visit their relatives which should have never got a loan to buy the house their in to start with. how about some code inforcment and see who living in these homes before they start tearing them up. make them clean up their filth, and no baby daddy's hanging around or staying there. better yet when the blacks don't pay their garbage,sewer,tax's chase them out. when they don't cut their grass or keep the place looking livable chase them out. write the some tickets and if they don't pay put them in a cage where they belong in the first place. i'm tired of dealing with their dirty,unkept homes. take a look at the stores and parking lots in the city they just throw their trash on the ground. you never seen this until the blacks moved in. they have ruined the area. you can tell just drive down hallsferry and the blacker it gets the dirty it looks, godforbid don't go on the other side of 270. the world would be a better place if you could push a button and there would be no more blacks.
like the other guy or gal said when it comes to minorities and subsidized housing there's very little the city can do. Yes they can try to enforce the laws already in place for keeping up property and so forth but that has to be taken up with the property owners. Generally apartment complexes and HUD houses have landlords/overseers who do not live in the area.

The point is and always has been that the city any city really does not have the financial means or power to "fight" federal housing laws/administration.

Not only did Florissant lose most of the ability to regulate housing it also was involved at the same time almost in a suit against the FPD for racial profiling. The whole thing began when a robbery occurred at a 7-Eleven (years ago). The description was of three young black males and they supposedly went into Stonebridge Townhouse complex. The FPD put up a roadblock at the entrance and checked all the vehicles entering and leaving. They tried to get a search warrant to enter the actual property but was denied by a County Judge.

A few weeks later (maybe a month) the ACLU filed the racial profiling suit and the FBI came into the city to investigate. They talked to business owners in that area and neighborhood residents, I was one of those inteviewed. Anyway when it all came down to the end two really good, IMO, FPD officers were forced to resign or face discrmination suits against them personally. The FPD was put on notice (maybe it was called probation) who knows and monitored by the Feebies for a year or so.

Take that into context with all the other suits filed against the city for discrimination and believe me there have been many and you can see what happened to create the situation now. Same thing happened with Hazelwood and Spanish Lake, Dellwood, etc. None of the smaller municipalities have the kind of money it takes to oppose the federal government. In other words, Florissant and every small area that was a great placed to live and raise kids and feel safe got "screwed".
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Jan 17, 2013
that's what gets me " discrimination" what a joke that is. who fault is it that the blacks never have the right plates on their cars or insurance or have a 40oz"er between their legs while they are driving down the road. what are the cops suppose to do let them go cause they are black. i say the more of them you stop you have a sure thing something not gonna be right,warrants,unpaid tickets,unpaid child support,illegal gun in the car, hot property, no driver license, it's always something with them and it's always your fault. i say if you see one, that's good enough of a reason to stop them, something will be screwed up with them.
Maybe you

Florissant, MO

#15 Jan 18, 2013
Hardhead wrote:
that's what gets me " discrimination" what a joke that is. who fault is it that the blacks never have the right plates on their cars or insurance or have a 40oz"er between their legs while they are driving down the road. what are the cops suppose to do let them go cause they are black. i say the more of them you stop you have a sure thing something not gonna be right,warrants,unpaid tickets,unpaid child support,illegal gun in the car, hot property, no driver license, it's always something with them and it's always your fault. i say if you see one, that's good enough of a reason to stop them, something will be screwed up with them.
are right about stopping black males especially when they appear to be doing "nothing" but that's not going to happen.

I am as unhappy and frustrated as anyone else but I sure don't want to see some police officer getting sued, fired and his or her reputation ruined because of some black person 'playing the race card'. Might as well face it federal law rules when it comes to minorities and everybody else is just_______(fill in the blank).

Either you have to find some way to deal with it emotionally and physically to stay safe and sane or you'll have to pack up and move on. Still all those folks saying how they will move where it is safer are just fooling themselves. Eventually the criminals will run out of places to rob and steal and live on the cheap and move where the money is. And there isn't a darn thing that can be done about it. As long as indecent blacks (and whites, cause there are some) use the race argument there's no way around it.
True Story

Florissant, MO

#16 Jan 18, 2013
Maybe you wrote:
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are right about stopping black males especially when they appear to be doing "nothing" but that's not going to happen.
I am as unhappy and frustrated as anyone else but I sure don't want to see some police officer getting sued, fired and his or her reputation ruined because of some black person 'playing the race card'. Might as well face it federal law rules when it comes to minorities and everybody else is just_______(fill in the blank).
Either you have to find some way to deal with it emotionally and physically to stay safe and sane or you'll have to pack up and move on. Still all those folks saying how they will move where it is safer are just fooling themselves. Eventually the criminals will run out of places to rob and steal and live on the cheap and move where the money is. And there isn't a darn thing that can be done about it. As long as indecent blacks (and whites, cause there are some) use the race argument there's no way around it.
I live in an area that was annexed by Florissant and we had problems with juvies breaking into homes while people were at work. This was when the County police had jurisdiction and they did finally catch the little SOBs.

The way they caught them was a guy came home at a time he didn't usually because he forgot something he needed for work and he found a couple of the juvies going through drawers. Well, he grabbed a baseball bat that he kept in the corner just in case and whacked one of them, breaking the kids wrist.

So the two miscreants went to juvenile detention for a couple of months and were put on probation. None of the stuff stolen was ever found and the police believe the juvies were working for adults either getting paid for it or maybe for family/relatives.
So a couple of months go by and the guy who whacked the kid gets sued by the wannabe thug's parents. And yep, you guessed it the parents won and got an amount that the insurance company (homeowner's) wouldn't allow to be disclosed. So there you are..try to live a decent life and get the shaft...try to protect your home and self from harm and still get the shaft.

And some people wonder why so many of us who were never bigoted have changed our views...go figure!
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Jan 18, 2013
True Story wrote:
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I live in an area that was annexed by Florissant and we had problems with juvies breaking into homes while people were at work. This was when the County police had jurisdiction and they did finally catch the little SOBs.
The way they caught them was a guy came home at a time he didn't usually because he forgot something he needed for work and he found a couple of the juvies going through drawers. Well, he grabbed a baseball bat that he kept in the corner just in case and whacked one of them, breaking the kids wrist.
So the two miscreants went to juvenile detention for a couple of months and were put on probation. None of the stuff stolen was ever found and the police believe the juvies were working for adults either getting paid for it or maybe for family/relatives.
So a couple of months go by and the guy who whacked the kid gets sued by the wannabe thug's parents. And yep, you guessed it the parents won and got an amount that the insurance company (homeowner's) wouldn't allow to be disclosed. So there you are..try to live a decent life and get the shaft...try to protect your home and self from harm and still get the shaft.
And some people wonder why so many of us who were never bigoted have changed our views...go figure!
something is very, very wrong with the system if they gave the kid money for being a thug. what would of if the gut would have shot the kid? nobody wants to shoot a kid, but what if the kids would have had a gun or knife? the parents should have been sued for damages to the man's house and thanked the man for not killing their kids. when someone's in your house all bets are off.
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Jan 18, 2013
i bet they were black too! weren't they.
But

United States

#19 Jan 18, 2013
Shoot the bastard... That's what insurance is for.
ratwinger

Florissant, MO

#20 Jan 19, 2013
the boonie hat bandit was WHITE and from Florissant,please tell me again how only blacks commit crimes...
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Jan 19, 2013
nobody said only blacks commit crimes, only 99% are commited by blacks.
Sorry Charlie

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Jan 19, 2013
According to the latest FBI stats (2011) our white brethren have a greater propensity to overall crime and lead in violent crime. Pray tell you might learn something other than the racial hatred you carry in your heart.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...

I am so tired of you and your fellow hate mongers, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. I have far more trouble with "white trash" in my neighborhood then I have experienced from the AA community. Then again I am not afraid of someone who is different from me, I am much more interested in our commonalities than our artificial differences such as skin color.

Disparaging others about their lack of education is actually quite entertaining after reading your barely literate rants. It is rather apparent the time you spent in a school desk did little in the way of educating you. I would suggest courses in grammar writing, history and critical thinking before you post again. One does not have to have formal education to be educated but it does require you to read and get beyond your narrow minded views.

Rant away.
Hardhead

Saint Louis, MO

#23 Jan 20, 2013
Sorry Charlie wrote:
According to the latest FBI stats (2011) our white brethren have a greater propensity to overall crime and lead in violent crime. Pray tell you might learn something other than the racial hatred you carry in your heart.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...
I am so tired of you and your fellow hate mongers, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. I have far more trouble with "white trash" in my neighborhood then I have experienced from the AA community. Then again I am not afraid of someone who is different from me, I am much more interested in our commonalities than our artificial differences such as skin color.
Disparaging others about their lack of education is actually quite entertaining after reading your barely literate rants. It is rather apparent the time you spent in a school desk did little in the way of educating you. I would suggest courses in grammar writing, history and critical thinking before you post again. One does not have to have formal education to be educated but it does require you to read and get beyond your narrow minded views.
Rant away.
if you don't like ,don't get on here and read it!i too have white trash living around me and believe me they are a mess, but they are not thugs that run the streets. take a look at the prison's alot more blacks than whites(fact). i didn't spend my life behind a key board, i was out building america with my hands and back and i'm tired of watching the black race tear in back down. get out and see what's happening around you.the black race has been useless for years and they are not changing. if you don't mind living with them that's fine, but don't complain about your car or house being broke into, cause it's gonna happen it's just a fact in black area's. my views are not narrow minded and i'm not ranting. just stating the facts and you don't want to believe it. i get along with every one, but the blacks have forced the whites to become racial haters. as i said before if you don't like it ,don't read it. their are some people that would like to get the city back before it's to far gone, so sit back and watch it crumble.

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