Who represents Taxpayer in HSD

Who represents Taxpayer in HSD

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disgruntlled taxpayer

United States

#1 Apr 10, 2013
Who represents the HSD Taxpayers?

The BofD is elected by taxpayers, and their priority should be to represent taxpayers first.

Yes, they represent the entire district, Taxpayer, STudent, Teacher, etc, but, the current board has misplaced the taxpayer trust by not representing them.

Why does the district carry an almost 40% cash reserve?

Why when it has such large reserves, does it hand it out to the teachers first, why not give some back to taxpayers?

Why is it that this district with all of its big Hazelwood first initiatives, continues to barely make the grade on the state scoring system?

Why is it, that the district is one of the highest taxed, and has the largest payroll in districts, yet is borderline on student achievement?

Why isn't raises and increases subject to student achievement and grade point average?

Why does the district carry large, empty, non property tax paying parcels of ground?

Why is it that the District maintenance and janitors are represented by Electrical IBEW Union? Our maintenance workers are the highest paid in all the districts. Can't we contract out this work for much less?

Why is it, one of the current and most recently elected board members is 2 years delinquent on his property taxes?

Why does the current board look down on taxpayers? Elected Board members should be advocates of Taxpayers first, and always. You should be our representation.

HSD Board Members, step up.
Marcus Welby

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Apr 10, 2013
disgruntlled taxpayer wrote:
Who represents the HSD Taxpayers?
The BofD is elected by taxpayers, and their priority should be to represent taxpayers first.
Yes, they represent the entire district, Taxpayer, STudent, Teacher, etc, but, the current board has misplaced the taxpayer trust by not representing them.
Why does the district carry an almost 40% cash reserve?
Why when it has such large reserves, does it hand it out to the teachers first, why not give some back to taxpayers?
Why is it that this district with all of its big Hazelwood first initiatives, continues to barely make the grade on the state scoring system?
Why is it, that the district is one of the highest taxed, and has the largest payroll in districts, yet is borderline on student achievement?
Why isn't raises and increases subject to student achievement and grade point average?
Why does the district carry large, empty, non property tax paying parcels of ground?
Why is it that the District maintenance and janitors are represented by Electrical IBEW Union? Our maintenance workers are the highest paid in all the districts. Can't we contract out this work for much less?
Why is it, one of the current and most recently elected board members is 2 years delinquent on his property taxes?
Why does the current board look down on taxpayers? Elected Board members should be advocates of Taxpayers first, and always. You should be our representation.
HSD Board Members, step up.
I worked for the Business Manager of the Ladue School District back in the 70s -- a time of a bad economy, high inflation, and for us a shrinking student population resulting in lower tax receipts. We were forced to cut all expenses to the bone and were continually challenged to come up with cost-cutting measures wherever we could find them. When you look at the wasteful spending in the HSD, cutting costs doesn't seem to appear anywhere on their radar. Other threads on Topix have disclosed much of this waste.

One other thing to keep in mind is that whenever you have a system where public unions contribute heavily to elect the very people who set the pay and pensions of those same union employees (without regard to the taxpayer), you're inviting disaster. Take a hard look at Stockton, California.
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Apr 10, 2013
I have to disagree.

The board should put the education of the students first. Period. ALL of the students. And do so in a reasonable and cost effective manner.

You are correct about the the maintenance work being mandated to be done by members of organized labor, and the attendant higher costs. But that's only a small issue--a few million dollars of a quarter billion dollars spent yearly.

The larger issue is the district's misguided adoption of "equity" in the mission of the district. That is a code word used in minority urban districts around the country for redirection of resources to minority causes (and most importantly directing cash into minority pockets), and involves increasing participation in various "programs" like Title I; school security; "closing the achievement gap"; "Hug-A-Thug" and other ways of bringing more state and federal cash to the district, and funneling the cash to the right service providers.

The effect is that excellence in education is de-emphasized or even abandoned, and the district morphs into a remedial education mode. This leads to an exodus of above average and higher achieving students, and eventually their families make school based decisions to move from the district. They take their family wealth, work ethic, and morals elsewhere, and you have a downward spiral. Sound familiar?

Unfortunately for taxpayers, in recent years HSD was successful in obtaining large tax increases to fund building and operations "improvements" and now the shrinking tax base is saddled with paying the bills.

So in sum, for a quarter billion dollars a year the district taxpayers are getting 1500 or so "graduates" with average ACT scores in the high teens, significantly below the state average and falling, but on par with other "urban" districts. That's the sad bottom line.

But if you go to the board meetings, at least recently, the main focus of many attendees is the district's minority contractor set aside program. Their focus is cash and education is not even on the radar. Also sad.

The only bright side to this is that the district's doomsday clock to state takeover approaches midnight.

You are correct to be concerned.
TTU

Bridgeton, MO

#4 Mar 10, 2016
TTU wrote:
The district's doomsday clock to state takeover approaches midnight.
I don't mean to replow the same ground here, but with the announced cuts to music and PE and the responsive outcry, perhaps it is timely to raise a couple of alarm bells re how the district is conducting its affairs.

1. The district is in the process of concluding its search for a new superintendent and there has been almost total silence on the issue. I can understand that in regard to specific candidates as if they are active employees of other districts there must be confidentiality. But there has been little said about the criteria. I suspect that there are two: 1. black (goes without saying); 2. complete obedience to board members.

I suggest that taxpayers insist that, instead of hiring some black administrator retread from some failing urban district who is about to get the axe and/or indicted, the board give it up and set the#1 criteria that the candidates have experience as a top administrator in a successful large district, like a Parkway, Lindbergh, or Rockwood, with no regard to race. I know, fat chance. But HSD ACT scores have fallen even further from 2013, and are circling the drain at the level of Vashon. If that continues, you can only expect real estate prices to continue to fall and inevitably a state takeover. And I can tell you, look at what is going on re Mizzou, the MO state legislature has about had it with black antics and will not make a state takeover a pleasant experience for the present board or the administration. You can expect that all expenditures and emails will be reviewed and if there have been any shenanigans the AG and county prosecutor will be brought in, shades of Riverview Gardens.

As has been occurring, if the HSD does not correct course, parents of higher achieving students will simply continue to opt out. They have numerous good choices. That leaves old white folks and black folks with a huge tax bill, and looming state takeover. If the state takes over, the board and admin, and all contracts with suppliers and vendors can be wiped out.

2. The district should really study the St Louis Public School District's success in setting up its academic academies, and copy them. HSD has 3 high schools, one of them should be a college prep academy. You can then have 1 high school as an african centric school, and 1 as a traditional school, and everybody should be happy. You can also have accelerated elementary schools and junior highs, that pipeline into the college prep academy, and african schools that pipeline into the african high school. Working great in the city, and there is a real rebound in real estate values in certain areas.
CSM1

Saint Peters, MO

#5 Mar 11, 2016
Looking out for anyone else is not something any negro is capable of doing. They're always looking out for themselves and all others be damned. How many times in our recent history have we placed Negros in charge of almost anything only to see it totally botched and screwed up, from the Prez on down? The facts are the facts white people, so when will you all remove your collective ass hats and accept the negro inferiority for what it is. Since ole Abe did his stupid thing, whitey has been on a self imposed guilt trip to elevate Negros to NO avail. For the past sixty plus years, whitey has piled on to the Negro every damn thing you can think of to improve their stupid lives , and always at the expense of the white race, and what have we gotten in return for this largess? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Negros for the most part are not able to exercise civility, it's not in their genetic make up. Oh they understand GIMMIE,GIMMIE,GIMMIE but have no concern with giving back anything of value to the society who extended the helping hand.
but but

Florissant, MO

#6 Mar 11, 2016
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Mar 11, 2016
but but wrote:
http://www.kmov.com/story/3144 2984/hazelwood-superintendent- accused-of-posting-racially-ch arged-comments-on-facebook
Its unfortunate that an employee of the HSD at the superintendent level would write something like this, particularly in such a charged environment. But its a greater tragedy that such a large district with so many children and so much at stake has racists people such as this in charge. Very very sad.

Taxpayers in HSD have been in a deep sleep on the decline of the district for a lot of years. Maybe this will awaken them.
Marcus Welby

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Mar 11, 2016
TTU wrote:
<quoted text>Its unfortunate that an employee of the HSD at the superintendent level would write something like this, particularly in such a charged environment. But its a greater tragedy that such a large district with so many children and so much at stake has racists people such as this in charge. Very very sad.
Taxpayers in HSD have been in a deep sleep on the decline of the district for a lot of years. Maybe this will awaken them.
How do people like this woman ever get elevated to the position they're in? Shouldn't the "Peter Principle" have stopped her rise up the ladder about 3 rungs below where she is now? Sad!
Fourth grade teacher

Saint Charles, MO

#9 Mar 11, 2016
KKKowards. Nice way to describe white taxpayers that support you. This gal needs to go NOW.
Gee Whiz

Saint Peters, MO

#10 Mar 11, 2016
Proving once more that only white people can be called "racists."
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Mar 12, 2016
This is a serious matter folks. You have parents (who btw are the bosses and employers of all district personnel) advocating for their children's education, nothing offensive whatsoever, and they are referred to by the district superintendent in this manner?????????? Everybody needs to look at this woman's Facebook posts. They are offensive and racist. She needs to be terminated asap.

Gawd, and this woman was in charge of the HSD human resources dept?????????? WTH!!!!!!!!!!

A thorough housecleaning is in order at the HSD NOW.
TTU

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Apr 13, 2016
FYI, HSD has named their 4th superintendent in 6 years, Nettie Collins-Hart. She comes from the Proviso District in suburban Chicago where she was superintendent. Meets job criteria #1. Will likely make around $300k/year w/benes.

The Proviso district has 3 high schools, one of which is a science and math academy. 22 avg ACT. Not great. Not bad. About average. Great Schools rates it 9 out of 10. That's the good news.

The district has two other high schools, East and West, Great Schools ratings of 1 and 2 respectively. ACT avgs for those schools are 16 and 17. Both essentially Vashon level. Test scores in English up a bit in the last couple of years.

Proviso district does not have grade schools or middle or junior highs.

The academy was created before Collins-Hart became super and there have been persistent vocal drives to close it, but it still exists. Don't know if she is pro or con. But at least she has been super of a district with one slightly above average high school.

Collins-Hart is 61. My bet is that she will bow out of her HSD contract early or finish out on an extended sick leave.

I guess that filling this job is somewhat like finding a captain for the Titanic---after it struck the iceberg.

I wish her luck.
CSM1

Saint Peters, MO

#13 May 18, 2016
Hey all you lucky residents of the Hasselwood School District, your JBB ( Jungle Bunny Board) has struck again. Heard they just approved 1.5 million bucks for new computers for those who will not learn, what a waste. Lets project to twelve months from now where we will see a large pile of broken junk. If they take this equipment into the hood, as soon as Tyrell, Leroy, Trayvon. Lemonjello, or any other grouping of letters to form a name, gets their hands on same, It'll be sold for 10 bucks to buy dope. Again I say. You just can't put those people in charge of most anything and get a positive result.
desmond

O Fallon, MO

#14 May 18, 2016
CSM1 wrote:
Hey all you lucky residents of the Hasselwood School District, your JBB ( Jungle Bunny Board) has struck again. Heard they just approved 1.5 million bucks for new computers for those who will not learn, what a waste. Lets project to twelve months from now where we will see a large pile of broken junk. If they take this equipment into the hood, as soon as Tyrell, Leroy, Trayvon. Lemonjello, or any other grouping of letters to form a name, gets their hands on same, It'll be sold for 10 bucks to buy dope. Again I say. You just can't put those people in charge of most anything and get a positive result.
filthy racist.
CSM1

Saint Peters, MO

#15 May 18, 2016
desmond wrote:
<quoted text>

filthy racist.
I beg your pardon, I bathe every day. Now behave Tutu.

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