Black Jack Fire Protection District P...

Black Jack Fire Protection District Proposition B

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county man

Florissant, MO

#1 Mar 25, 2014
The district wants to borrow $5.365 million, which is within the $12 million debt ceiling approved by voters in 2001. District officials say the money would be used to buy and maintain emergency medical and fire protection equipment and apparatus and to upgrade fire houses.

Don't I pass a new fire house on Lindbergh everyday?
Tropical lighting

Florissant, MO

#2 Mar 26, 2014
There are three new firehouses in black Jack that I am aware of. The one on old Jamestown Rd looks like shit in the summer because they don't water the grass. If they can't even water the grass no telling how the inside of these new buildings look.
Marcus Welby

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Mar 27, 2014
There are a lot of cities and some states that are headed for the same financial fate as Detroit. Before people vote I hope they consider this: If Prop B passes and the district borrows $5M, where does the money come from to pay off the debt?
local

Washington, MO

#4 Mar 27, 2014
Are the Waltons in volved in this district?
No Waltons

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Mar 27, 2014
local wrote:
Are the Waltons in volved in this district?
No, but they have tried, and have been successfully pushed back. We have a good Fire District and it is ran by 3 good Board members who take their job seriously. It is a good District, we need to keep it that way.
local

Washington, MO

#6 Mar 27, 2014
No Waltons wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but they have tried, and have been successfully pushed back. We have a good Fire District and it is ran by 3 good Board members who take their job seriously. It is a good District, we need to keep it that way.
Keep up the good work.
In The Know

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Mar 27, 2014
Big thing to look out for is whether the district out retires it pension resources. That's always a danger when you give pensions for just 20 or 30 years of service.
Support first responders

United States

#8 Mar 28, 2014
-League of Women's Voters advised that the average price for a residence in BJFPD is $75,000. The cost increase for Prop E is $57 dollars annually for the average residence and $76 for a $100,000 residence.

- The assessed value of the district has fallen by over 27%.

- We have increased our EMS call over 100% since 2008.

- The Prop B is a no tax increase bond renewal.

- The total call volume has risen 57% since 2008.

- We will be increasing our level of service to ALS pumpers to meet the demand of the increased EMS call volume. We will be working closely with Christan Hospital to bring the best EMS care to our residence in a financial responsible manor.

- We will continue to up date both fire and EMS equipment to provide the best service to our residents.
In The Know

Bridgeton, MO

#9 Mar 28, 2014
Support first responders wrote:
- The assessed value of the district has fallen by over 27%.

- We will continue to up date both fire and EMS equipment to provide the best service to our residents.
Appreciated. Just keep in mind that other than maybe the big houses along the Jamestown road corridor, this is no longer a wealthy residential area.

Even though the houses look large, the demographics have changed and most working folks have left the district. We have a few fixed income seniors getting 1% on their IRAs, and a whole lot of multiple generation families and cousins living in single family homes getting by on EBT, SSID, welfare, unemployment, etc. Lots of foreclosures and underwater mortgages.

How well are the pensions funded--anyone know? Won't there be a pretty big bulge of retirements coming soon?
SacredHeartNeigh bor

Miami, FL

#10 Apr 4, 2014
Sounds like time to move the hell out of BLACKjack across the river.
frank

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Apr 6, 2014
Maybe my math is all wrong, but the way I figure a 40 cent per hundred dollars valuation on $75,000 is $300 increase, not $57..40 per hundred = 4.00 per thousand. Multiply that by 75 (for 75,000)=$300. Where does $57 come from? Someone please help me understand this.
Pale Dago

O Fallon, MO

#12 Apr 7, 2014
frank wrote:
Maybe my math is all wrong, but the way I figure a 40 cent per hundred dollars valuation on $75,000 is $300 increase, not $57..40 per hundred = 4.00 per thousand. Multiply that by 75 (for 75,000)=$300. Where does $57 come from? Someone please help me understand this.
I'm thinking that there is some magic formula the gubment uses to where they reduce the assessed value of your home so you don't actually pay on the face value. But then I could be wrong.
LackOfBusiness

Miami, FL

#13 Apr 7, 2014
With the lack of a future in Blackjack why would someone want to live there?
IWonDaJackpot

Miami, FL

#14 Apr 7, 2014
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/mill...

I be leaving BLACKjack for St Chuck soon as I can get paid by da man

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