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The democrats insatiable demand for justice

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Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#1 Nov 18, 2012
When the cries for justice echos across the land to be meted out to a politician it most likely is originating from democrats who have their beady eyes locked on a republican politician. The democrats efforts to stamp out nefarious conduct by our elected officials is a noble cause and to be applauded but justice and the seeking out of corrupt politicians to be fair and just must be equally applied and must be sought no matter which parties members are involved but thats not the case with these democrat seekers of justice.
While democrats have a uncanny ability to spot corruption when republican politicians are involved but these same democrats who demand honesty in republicans and call for immediate justice somehow are not that anxious to bring their own to justice.
Examples abound demonstrating that democrats are more than willing to look the other way when their fellow democrats are involved in shady deals and are exposed.

One example, among many, is the scandle ridden Hillary and Bill Clinton debacles when they occupyed the White house.
Scandle after scandle happened during their presidency, there was Chinagate,campaign funds scandals the Vince Foster Mysterious death involving the Clintons, The sex scandals, bimbo patrols,charges of rape,involving Bill Clinton.
But,"Its taxpayers money," the democrats pound their chests and shout, when a republican is charged with corruption.
These same democrats suddenly develop tunnel vision and are unable to identify wrong doings or demand justice be done when its one of their own democrat politicians who had been helping themselves or caught doing something crooked.
Like Tax evader, Charlie Rangle,to name just one of the many democrats who didn't feel obligated to pay their taxes they owed.Conflicts of interest Diane Fienstein,Apr 28, 2010 – Dianne Feinstein—the ninth wealthiest member of congress—has been beset by monumental ethical conflicts of interest. As a member of the ...
"The Washington Times... Apr 22, 2009 published....Diane Feinstein's egregious conflict-of-interest sends millions in taxpayer funds to her husband's firm..Apr 22, 2009..."
"As if the ethics challenges of the Obama administration and Congressional hacks like Dodd, Frank, Rangel, Mollohan, Reid, Murtha and Waters weren't enough, Diane Feinstein turned some new tricks that helpfully enriched her husband."
In May of 2008, the FDIC began an RFP process to help manage and resell its immense portfolio of foreclosed real estate. It received proposals from 18 firms.

"Feinstein wrote to the FDIC head on Oct. 30, as her husband's firm (CBRE) was still competing for the contract. Bair responded in November, noting that she had not been able to convince Treasury to fund her plan for handling foreclosures."
On November 13th, the FDIC inked a contract with CBRE that could yield tens of millions of dollars (or more)"

"Feinstein's husband's partnerships bought 10.6 million shares at a price of $3.77."

"Several days later, the FDIC announced CBRE had won the contract. Foreclosure management experts call the contract "highly unusual" and stated that some of its fees were "egregious".
The working class,the democrat party, home of poor democrats, understand the working class's pain......"Feinstein and her husband are worth north of $52.3 million, according to her 2007 financial disclosure."
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#2 Nov 19, 2012
2001–2009 George W. Bush Administration
Timothy Goeglein Special Assistant to President Bush resigned when it was discovered that more than 20 of his columns had been plagiarized from an Indiana newspaper.
Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney (R),'Scooter' was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Plame Affair on March 6, 2007. He was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000. The sentence was commuted by George W. Bush (R) on July 1, 2007. The felony remains on Libby's record though the jail time and fine were commuted.
Alphonso Jackson The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development resigned while under investigation by the FBI for revoking the contract of a vendor who told Jackson he did not like President George W. Bush (R)
Karl Rove Senior Adviser to President George W. Bush was investigated by the Office of Special Counsel for "improper political influence over government decision-making", as well as for his involvement in several other scandals such as Lawyergate, Bush White House e-mail controversy and Plame affair. He resigned in April 2007.(See Karl Rove in the George W. Bush administration)
"Lawyergate"[29] Or the Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy refers to President Bush firing, without explanation, eleven Republican federal prosecutors whom he himself had appointed. It is alleged they were fired for prosecuting Republicans and not prosecuting Democrats.
Bush White House e-mail controversy – During the Lawyergate investigation it was discovered that the Bush administration used Republican National Committee (RNC) web servers for millions of emails which were then destroyed, lost or deleted in possible violation of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Andrew Card, Sara Taylor and Scott Jennings all used RNC webservers for the majority of their emails. Of 88 officials, no emails at all were discovered for 51 of them.[42] As many as 5 million e-mails requested by Congressional investigators of other Bush administration scandals were therefore unavailable, lost, or deleted.
Lurita Alexis Doan Resigned as head of the General Services Administration. She was under scrutiny for conflict of interest and violations of the Hatch Act. Among other things she asked GSA employees how they could "help Republican candidates".
John Korsmo chairman of the Federal Housing Finance Board pled guilty to lying to congress and sentenced to 18 months of unsupervised probation and fined $5,000.
Philip Cooney Bush appointee to chair the Council on Environmental Quality was accused of editing government climate reports to emphasize doubts about global warming. Two days later, Cooney announced his resignation and later conceded his role in altering reports. Stating, "My sole loyalty was to the President and advancing the policies of his administration," .
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#3 Nov 19, 2012
cont'd
Jack Abramoff Scandal in which the prominent lobbyist with close ties to Republican administration officials and legislators offered bribes as part of his lobbying efforts. Abramoff was sentenced to 4 years in prison. See Legislative scandals.
1.David Safavian GSA (General Services Administration) Chief of Staff,[53] found guilty of blocking justice and lying, and sentenced to 18 months
2.Roger Stillwell Staff in the Department of the Interior under President George W. Bush (R). Pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence.
3.Susan B. Ralston Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Karl Rove, resigned October 6, 2006 after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff.
4.J. Steven Griles former Deputy to the Secretary of the Interior pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and was sentenced to 10 months.
5.Italia Federici staff to the Secretary of Interior, and President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, pled guilty to tax evasion and obstruction of justice. She was sentenced to four years probation.
6.Jared Carpenter Vice-President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, was discovered during the Abramoff investigation and pled guilty to income tax evasion. He got 45 days, plus 4 years probation.
7.Mark Zachares staff in the Department of Labor, bribed by Abramoff, guilty of conspiracy to defraud.
8.Robert E. Coughlin Deputy Chief of Staff, Criminal Division of the Justice Department pleaded guilty to conflict of interest after accepting bribes from Jack Abramoff.
Kyle Foggo Executive director of the CIA was convicted of honest services fraud in the awarding of a government contract and sentenced to 37 months in federal prison at Pine Knot, Kentucky. On September 29, 2008, Foggo pleaded guilty to one count of the indictment, admitting that while he was the CIA executive director, he acted to steer a CIA contract to the firm of his lifelong friend, Brent R. Wilkes.
Julie MacDonald Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Department of the Interior, resigned May 1, 2007 after giving government documents to developers
Claude Allen Appointed as an advisor by President George W. Bush (R) on Domestic Policy, Allen was arrested for a series of felony thefts in retail stores. He was convicted on one count and resigned soon after.
Lester Crawford Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, resigned after 2 months. Pled guilty to conflict of interest and received 3 years suspended sentence and fined $90,000
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#4 Nov 19, 2012
cont'd
2003 Invasion of Iraq depended on intelligence that Saddam Hussein was developing "weapons of mass destruction" (WMDs) meaning nuclear, chemical and/or biological weapons for offensive use. As revealed by The (British) Downing Street memo "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy" The press called this the 'smoking gun."(2005)[66]
Yellowcake forgery: Just prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration presented evidence to the UN that Iraq was seeking material (yellowcake uranium) in Africa for making nuclear weapons. Though presented as true, it was later found to be not only dubious, but outright false.[67]
Coalition Provisional Authority Cash Payment Scandal: On June 20, 2005, the staff of the Committee on Government Reform prepared a report for Congressman Henry Waxman.[68] It was revealed that $12 billion in cash had been delivered to Iraq by C-130 planes, on shrinkwrapped pallets of US $100 bills.[69] The United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, concluded that "Many of the funds appear to have been lost to corruption and waste.... Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and insurgents...." Henry Waxman, commented, "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?" A single flight to Iraq on December 12, 2003 which contained $1.5 billion in cash is said to be the largest single Federal Reserve payout in US history according to Henry Waxman.[70][71]
Bush administration payment of columnists with federal funds to say nice things about Republican policies. Illegal payments were made to journalists Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher and Michael McManus (2004–2005)[72]
Bernard Kerik nomination in 2004 as Secretary of Homeland Security was derailed by past employment of an illegal alien as a nanny, and other improprieties. On Nov 4, 2009, he pled guilty to two counts of tax fraud and five counts of lying to the federal government and was sentenced to four years in prison.[73]
Plame affair (2004), in which CIA agent Valerie Plame's name was supposedly leaked by Richard Armitage, Deputy Secretary of State, to the press in retaliation for her husband's criticism of the reports used by George W. Bush to legitimize the Iraq war.[74] Armitage admitted he was the leak[75] but no wrongdoing was found.
Thomas A. Scully, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), withheld information from Congress about the projected cost of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, and allegedly threatened to fire Medicare's chief actuary, Richard Foster, if Foster provided the data to Congress.(2003)[76] Scully resigned on December 16, 2003.
NSA warrantless surveillance – Shortly after the September 11 attacks in 2001, President George W. Bush (R) implemented a secret program by the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on domestic telephone calls by American citizens without warrants, thus by-passing the FISA court which must approve all such actions.(2002)[77] In 2010, Federal Judge Vaughn Walker ruled this practice to be illegal.[78]
Kenneth Lay, a member of the Republican National Committee, financial donor and ally of President George W. Bush (R) and once considered a possible Secretary of the Treasury. Lay was found guilty of 10 counts of securities fraud concerning his company Enron, but died before sentencing.[79][80][81][82][83 ]
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#5 Nov 19, 2012
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Janet Rehnquist (daughter of former Chief Justice William Rehnquist) appointed Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services by George W. Bush. In 2002, Governor Jeb Bush's (R-FL) Chief of Staff Kathleen Shanahan asked Rehnquist to delay auditing a $571 million federal overpayment to the State of Florida. Rehnquist ordered her staff to delay the investigation for five months until after the Florida elections. When Congress began an investigation in to the matter, Rehnquist resigned in March 2003, saying she wanted to spend more time with her family.[84][85][86][86][87][88 ]
John Yoo An attorney in the Office of Legal Counsel inside the Justice Department who, working closely with vice president Dick Cheney and The Bush Six,[89] wrote memos stating the right of the president to –
1.suspend sections of the ABM Treaty without informing Congress[90]
2.bypass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allowing warrentless wiretapping of US Citizens within the United States by the National Security Agency.[90]
3.state that the First Amendment and Fourth Amendments and the Takings Clause do not apply to the president in time of war as defined in the USA PATRIOT Act[90]
4.allow Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (torture) because provisions of the War Crimes Act, the Third Geneva Convention, and the Torture convention do not apply.[90]
Many of his memos have since been repudiated and reversed.[90][91] Later review by the Justice Department reported that Yoo and Jay Bybee used "poor judgement" in the memos, but no charges have yet been filed.[92]
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#6 Nov 19, 2012
As I said, we really don't want to match scandals one on one. Nor, do we want to match each party ignoring their own scandals.
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#8 Nov 19, 2012
Eric wrote:
As I said, we really don't want to match scandals one on one. Nor, do we want to match each party ignoring their own scandals.
I will take a page out of the Democrats play book... They're all crooks!
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#9 Nov 19, 2012
Eric wrote:
As I said, we really don't want to match scandals one on one. Nor, do we want to match each party ignoring their own scandals.
"Republicans being... "attacked on ethics... is like being called ugly by a frog."
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#10 Nov 19, 2012
Eric wrote:
As I said, we really don't want to match scandals one on one. Nor, do we want to match each party ignoring their own scandals.
There are scandales and then there are scandles, some scandles reach a new low even for democrats, for example," Democrat Elizabeth Warren still scrambling to explain her Native American minority claim.."
It was also revealed that Warren described herself as a Native American minority in professional law school directories during the 1980s and ’90s.
"The Democratic candidate’s troubles began last week when it was revealed that Harvard once described Warren as a Native American minority"
"Warren’s campaign this week claimed that the Democrat’s great-great-great grandmother was Cherokee, counting as 1/32nd of the candidate’s total ancestry."

"Prominent Native Americans have called on Warren to prove her ancestry claims."

“Once you put that down, you better be able to defend it,” Ray Ramirez of the Native American Rights Fund told The Daily Caller on Monday.

"Newly uncovered documents posted on a blog show that two ancestors of Massachusetts U.S. Senate hopeful Elizabeth Warren were listed on government forms as “white,” despite the Democratic candidate repeatedly saying that she comes from Native American heritage."
To attempt to classify herself,Democrat Elizabeth Warren, as a minority intitled to racial preferences in order to gain an advantage is harmful to minorities who struggle daily to advance their race.
How dare her to attempt to advance herself in that way..
Warren immediately denied that she briefly considered herself a Native American minority to help advance her career when schools were looking to boost minority hires.( SURE ,yep!

"....former Colorado Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell told The Daily Caller in an interview Tuesday,“I think if she used it just to get some kind of advantage — whatever it was — like a job application or something, then that’s probably not appropriate.”

"not appropriate," thats a understatement, if ever I heard one...
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#11 Nov 19, 2012
Johnny Appleseed wrote:
<quoted text> There are scandales and then there are scandles,
Johnny Appleseed
Chicago, IL
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#9 Friday Nov 16

This is like saying, the girl was only a little bit pregnant

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oswego-il/TGC...
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#12 Nov 19, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Johnny Appleseed
Chicago, IL
Reply »
#9 Friday Nov 16
This is like saying, the girl was only a little bit pregnant
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oswego-il/TGC...
To attempt to classify herself,Democrat Elizabeth Warren, as a minority intitled to racial preferences in order to gain an advantage is harmful to minorities who struggle daily to advance their race.
How dare her to attempt to advance herself in that way..
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#13 Nov 19, 2012
Johnny Appleseed wrote:
<quoted text> To attempt to classify herself,Democrat Elizabeth Warren, as a minority intitled to racial preferences in order to gain an advantage is harmful to minorities who struggle daily to advance their race.
How dare her to attempt to advance herself in that way..
Kind of like Cong. Tim Walz claiming to have severed as a combat Vet in Afghanistan.
Me in Hellinois

Montgomery, IL

#14 Nov 19, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Kind of like Cong. Tim Walz claiming to have severed as a combat Vet in Afghanistan.
Apparently we need to find out Eric's favorite watering hole. Or atleast the kool aid recipe he is drinking. Come on, Eric, share it with those you believe are clueless.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#15 Nov 19, 2012
Me in Hellinois wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently we need to find out Eric's favorite watering hole. Or atleast the kool aid recipe he is drinking. Come on, Eric, share it with those you believe are clueless.
Damn it. Stop being mis-informed by Bill O'Reilly. It was Flavor Aid. Made right here in the west burbs at Jel Sert. Please give the local business its due and some free publicity.
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#16 Nov 20, 2012
Eric wrote:
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Kind of like Cong. Tim Walz claiming to have severed as a combat Vet in Afghanistan.
You mean like John Kerry who with Jane Fonda protested the vietnam war, Kerry who put himself in for the purple heart when no one else would.
The Swift Boat heros who told the story of Kerry's wound that the medics said was a scratch nicely handled with a bandaid. John Kerry who said when running for president, " Reporting for duty," Kerry, who while in the military, asked for early release from duty so he could appear before congress with other phony veterans who,as it turned out, had never served a day in the military.
democrat Kerry, Besmirching the honor of those veterans who did serve their country honorably with his tales he fabricated about atrocities he said were committed by our service men.
John Kerry, who supposedly threw his purple heart medal away in protest of the vietnam war but had his purple heart metal hanging on the wall of his Washington office.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#17 Nov 20, 2012
Johnny Appleseed wrote:
<quoted text>You mean like John Kerry who with Jane Fonda protested the vietnam war, Kerry who put himself in for the purple heart when no one else would.
The Swift Boat heros who told the story of Kerry's wound that the medics said was a scratch nicely handled with a bandaid. John Kerry who said when running for president, " Reporting for duty," Kerry, who while in the military, asked for early release from duty so he could appear before congress with other phony veterans who,as it turned out, had never served a day in the military.
democrat Kerry, Besmirching the honor of those veterans who did serve their country honorably with his tales he fabricated about atrocities he said were committed by our service men.
John Kerry, who supposedly threw his purple heart medal away in protest of the vietnam war but had his purple heart metal hanging on the wall of his Washington office.
Do you really want to keep comparing scandals? You know that for everyone you offer that I can match it with a similar Republican scandal. I already posted 3 pages of scandals just from the GW Bush terms.
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#18 Nov 20, 2012
Eric wrote:
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Do you really want to keep comparing scandals? You know that for everyone you offer that I can match it with a similar Republican scandal. I already posted 3 pages of scandals just from the GW Bush terms.
I have in reserve many more democrat scandles if you wish to continue along this line.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#19 Nov 20, 2012
Johnny Appleseed wrote:
<quoted text> I have in reserve many more democrat scandles if you wish to continue along this line.
That's what I said. We can go tit for tat or agree that for every story one of us posts, the other could match it.
Johnny Appleseed

Melrose Park, IL

#20 Nov 20, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what I said. We can go tit for tat or agree that for every story one of us posts, the other could match it.
Apparently you are admitting that the democrats in Washington are just as dishonest as the republicans.if this is true,there has to be something else that would cause you to choose to vote for one party over the other pollitical party. Perhaps the determining facter on which dishonest party to vote for could be,"what kinds of people who vote for a particular political party,and who either hang around or are leaders of the party, like weathermen, Bill Ayers and wife,Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Jessy Jackson, Barny Franks,Henry Waxman, The Clintons who "pardoned 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican terrorist group," van Jones code pink members 60s radicals ACLU, NAACP etc.
Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#21 Nov 20, 2012
Johnny Appleseed wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently you are admitting that the democrats in Washington are just as dishonest as the republicans.if this is true,there has to be something else that would cause you to choose to vote for one party over the other pollitical party.
Or, maybe we make our decisions on the issues. We vote for those who espouse the stand on governmental issues that we espouse. We ask that people be able to live their lives without governmental interference. We ask that businesses be responsible for the resulting negative attributes of their processes. We ask that our children be educated without denying our rights as parents to instill in them our religious beliefs and morals. We ask that there be safety nets for those who have problems making ends meet.

Seems like we are in the majority in this country. Since the election you have been making excuses why people who espouse your position on the issues lost. You put all your eggs in the basket of the conservatives and came away with egg on your face. You predicted concession speeches at McCormick Place and wound up with concession speeches in Boston. You criticized the President for disrepecting the Governor by saying the Gov. ran a good race, but in the end it was the Governor who disrespected the President by not planning for the Governor's eventual lose. When I offered the olive branch the next morning, you spurned it. You can't win on the issues so you attack the personalities.

You lost; get over it.

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