Florida education: Principals know wh...

Florida education: Principals know what works best

There are 3 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Dec 21, 2008, titled Florida education: Principals know what works best. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

There's some great news about Florida public education. Two high schools zoomed to The Top 10 of The Top 100 Gold Medal High Schools ranked by U.S. News & World Report.

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Max

Boone, NC

#1 Dec 21, 2008
What each those nine schools, and in particularly the three that Mr. Goldstein interviewed woud have told him, if he had asked, or perhaps they did tell him and didn't bother to report it was, none of these schools will tolerate ill mannered, undisciplined students. Zero tolerance. Behave disruptively, and you're expelled. Go back to the schools that are forced to tolerate you.

About two decades ago the decision was made that it would be "better" to have, ill-mannered, undisciplined, unmotivated children in the classroom than have them roaming the streets. With that decision, we forced teachers to be babysitters and surrogate parents first, teachers second, and that was beginning of the steep decline in the quality of public education.

There is no magic here, Mr. Goldstein. It's just common sense, something we no longer value or exercise in the public school system.
Stacey Mancuso

Germantown, TN

#2 Dec 23, 2008
Max-

All of the students problems are not solved as they walk through the door. An, no, we don't expel students and send them back to their home school. We do our best to get to the root of the problem which is usually unschool related.

The DASH students are directed, motivated but they are not perfect and we do not just throw them to the wolves if live is not perfect for the.

I do, however, appreciate your comment. At least you read the article and care about education. Thank you.
Max wrote:
What each those nine schools, and in particularly the three that Mr. Goldstein interviewed woud have told him, if he had asked, or perhaps they did tell him and didn't bother to report it was, none of these schools will tolerate ill mannered, undisciplined students. Zero tolerance. Behave disruptively, and you're expelled. Go back to the schools that are forced to tolerate you.
About two decades ago the decision was made that it would be "better" to have, ill-mannered, undisciplined, unmotivated children in the classroom than have them roaming the streets. With that decision, we forced teachers to be babysitters and surrogate parents first, teachers second, and that was beginning of the steep decline in the quality of public education.
There is no magic here, Mr. Goldstein. It's just common sense, something we no longer value or exercise in the public school system.
Max

Boone, NC

#3 Dec 27, 2008
Stacey Mancuso wrote:
Max-
All of the students problems are not solved as they walk through the door. An, no, we don't expel students and send them back to their home school. We do our best to get to the root of the problem which is usually unschool related.
The DASH students are directed, motivated but they are not perfect and we do not just throw them to the wolves if live is not perfect for the.
I do, however, appreciate your comment. At least you read the article and care about education. Thank you.
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In your particular situation, a small, very directed academic focused environment, you may have the time and resources to be surrogate parents, which, since you say most of the problems are "unschool" related, is what you must be doing. But in the average, 2000 to 4000 student high school, that is simply not possible.

Would your recommendation be that all those students who are disruptive and undisciplined be sent to a school similar to yours?

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