Drag strip proposed to spark area eco...

Drag strip proposed to spark area economy

There are 78 comments on the www.oscodapress.com story from Jun 26, 2007, titled Drag strip proposed to spark area economy. In it, www.oscodapress.com reports that:

Jack Brown and Tim Kelly say the local economy needs a shot in the arm and they have the medicine. via Oscoda Press

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IFH2008

Petoskey, MI

#42 Jul 7, 2008
Okay, so you don't buy the noise aspect. Yes, the planes at Kalitta make noise; it doesn't mean every other noise making activity or business needs to move in. I'm all for adding business and tourism to this community. However, there has to be a reason other areas have not built dragstrips if it indeed is such a popular sport. I'm looking in to every aspect because I don't exactly trust the opinion of others who are advocates for the sport and I don't listen the ramblings of the opposers either. I will educate myself about the sport and it's effect on the local economy as well as the environment (which by the way should be considered as well). Do we really need to waste gasoline and other commodities on the thrill seekers?
Presidents Club

United States

#43 Jul 7, 2008
The Watcher wrote:
Why are there "quite a few guys from Alpena that drive THROUGH Oscoda every weekend to go to Ubly or Edmore to spend a weekend at their respective drag racing facilities? How few are you talking about and why don't they stay home and build a drag strip in Alpena? Don't you want to buy a house within earshot of a drag strip? The retirees and other homeowners in the Villages Of Oscoda are concerned with property values. There hasn't been a house re-sold there in almost a year and the last one was sold far below what the seller paid for it. Many Villages homeowners put much money into the local economy building onto their condos and continue to contribut to that economy with their property taxes. And let's not forget the 7.5 million dollars the local economy captures from the Villages as cited by the Oscoda Community Newsletter a year ago. They don't want to live within earshot of a drag strip. Do you?
Speaking of the Villages,,,,,not to change the subject, but the homes in the villages being hard to sell is probably due to the fact that owning one of those homes is not quite the dream those buyers thought they were dreaming. When you buy one of those homes you are NOT the sole owner, but a CO-owner. Read the fine print. It would be a really CCCOLD day before I would invest my money in a co-owned home, a home that I don't wholly own, and one that I'm told what I can and cannot do to improve it or modify it without getting permission from the Village People.(The other owner) Knowing those facts is enough to keep ME fromm investing in them. The people buying into these homes will have a hard time selling them for these reasons alone.
The guy who moved away

Tucson, AZ

#44 Jul 7, 2008
Not to mention the fact that you're buying refurbished base housing that's (guessing) almost 30-40 years old (correct me if I'm worng). Plus, I used to do roofing with a company that did most of the work out there, and let me tell you that a lot of those houses are in poor shape as it is.

Back to the dragstrip. Most of the retired populaiton in Oscoda was around when the base was still opperational. I know damn well that anyone who was around back then knows the noise the base made (windows shaking, having to turn the TV up, blah blah blah). We have a race park here in Tucson. That includes an oval track, dirt track, drag strip, and Motocross track. Not to mention the autocross events every weekend in parking lots around town.

I have several friends that live within earshot and 3-4 miles from there. No one minds at all and the noise is minimal. And trust me, sound carries a lot farther here in the desert were there aren't any trees to help filter the noise. Not all of my friends are car enthusiests either. But here's the kicker, we have a major Air Force base her in town. Guess where most of the noise here in the city comes from?
The Watcher

Eau Claire, WI

#45 Jul 7, 2008
As previously stated, you want a drag strip in Oscoda, move to Oscoda, become a homeowner, taxpayer, and voter. Then, you get to have a say in what's built in Oscoda. If you've moved to Tucson, or Austin, or where ever, have a nice life there. Further, as someone else stated, if drag strips are such a good idea why aren't other towns clamoring to have one? Noise? Property values? Again, what is the race track doing for Whittemore?
tom from Alpena

Atlanta, GA

#46 Jul 7, 2008
The biggest obstacle to opening a drag strip anywhere is the cost of insurance. After that, the biggest obstacle is a finding a suitable site. Both of these have been addressed in Oscoda. The third (or maybe the biggest) obstacle is ill-founded negative opinion.

As far as "wasting gasoline and commodities on thrill seekers" goes, the last time I checked we still live in America, where you can "waste" all the gasoline you want as long as you pay for it. There are a lot of other endeavors that may be considered wasteful of something or other, but one man's "waste" is another man's avocation.
The guy who moved away

Tucson, AZ

#47 Jul 7, 2008
The Watcher wrote:
As previously stated, you want a drag strip in Oscoda, move to Oscoda, become a homeowner, taxpayer, and voter. Then, you get to have a say in what's built in Oscoda. If you've moved to Tucson, or Austin, or where ever, have a nice life there. Further, as someone else stated, if drag strips are such a good idea why aren't other towns clamoring to have one? Noise? Property values? Again, what is the race track doing for Whittemore?
Everyone in Oscoda is complaining that no one wants to come to town and spend money, the local economy sucks, and no outside people/businesses have a reason to invest in the community.

So what happens? People who don't live there start to make suggestions. They come on here and say "This is a good idea. We and everyone we know would come to Oscoda more often and spend money if you had this."

But then you tell us that our opinions don't matter because we don't live there. That's basicaly like saying "You don't know what you want. So I'll tell YOU what you want and expect you to like it."

So what happens when you don't listen to the customer and don't give them what they want? You get a failed business. Kind of like Oscoda is failing as a town. Why? Because people would rather sit in their egg shell all day and complain about why no one wants to come visit them. But they cry like a child when something might change because they don't want their egg shell to get cracked.

So when you tell us our opinion doesn't matter, it's like giving your customer the middle finger.
IFH2008

Petoskey, MI

#48 Jul 7, 2008
Exactly tom, we do live in America which is why some people should be able to comprise their own opinion about matters. Some people don't want a drag strip (right now I'm neutral but the advocates here are not swaying me at all with the retorts) and they have a right to their opinion. I respect your opinion and gwma; I'm trying to see your point of view. Can't you at least consider the points brought up here by Watching and others that are opposed to the idea of a drag strip? Just asking.
Time on My Hands

Eau Claire, WI

#49 Jul 7, 2008
Bring on a drag-strip then plant a million salmon in the river to bring back the fishing, build a pier to get out to the fishing. Truck in some white-tailed deer and release them in the woods... then shoot all of the insurance agents advocating reducing deer population to keep their profits up.

Bring in an amusement park or indoor water park something to draw people.

Maybe just start with a carnival midway at one of the Oscoda Festivals, just to get people here.

Give my children an opportunity to grow up here in the north, they all shouldn't have to go to the city to live after high school!
tom from Alpena

Atlanta, GA

#50 Jul 11, 2008
I do consider the points of those opposed to the dragstrip. The problem is that their opposition is based on misconceptions and bias against those who are a part of the "car crowd".
The Watcher

Eau Claire, WI

#51 Jul 11, 2008
Why does the hillman wheels car club put on a race day only one day a year? What is the problem with doing it there every weekend? I'm sure the Hillman economy could use 1500 people every weekend...
the guy who moved away

Tucson, AZ

#52 Jul 11, 2008
So, the people of Oscoda don't want tourists (one of the towns top sources of income) to come ever weekend? Then why complain about the economy? It's obviously just the way everyone likes it, barren and virtually non-existent :)

Oscoda is, has always been, and always will be a tourist town. Even when the base was open it was a tourist town.
IFH2008

Petoskey, MI

#53 Jul 11, 2008
I certainly am not opposed to tourists in town but things need to be carefully thought out before hand which seems to always be the exception here. I have lived here for over 25 years and raised my children here so I know where this town has been and what it is capable of becoming. I did not run away from it when things became tough economically because I enjoyed the beauty of the surrounding area. I am not sure we need to be known as the "drag strip capital" of Michigan. I am not opposed to it being here but it cannot sustain this area. We have to be able to promote the natural resources of the area of which we have an abundance of. We realize that sometimes we have to put up with the traffic downtown and perhaps the loud noise to help our economy. It doesn't make it any easier for us. It doesn't make us backwards, it doesn't make us ungrateful, it doesn't make us not want progress. It's merely growing pains. Every town has them. We haven't run away. We're still here. We will be here. Unlike some others. We love our town.
tom from Alpena

Atlanta, GA

#54 Jul 17, 2008
Nice attitude.

Tell me. What reason does anybody have for coming to Oscoda? Nothing more and probably less than most of the communities you list above. At least Alpena is a destination community, a place where people go to spend money. Oscoda is pretty much a pass-through town. Most outsiders pass through on their way to somewhere else. Too bad you don't want anybody to actually stop and spend some time and money in Oscoda.
IFH2008

Petoskey, MI

#55 Jul 17, 2008
tom, as I said we are not ungrateful for anything. We do want people to come here. I was merely responding to some who keep referring to us as backwards, etc. We certainly are not. We are a pretty friendly lot. But if the only thing we have is a drag strip it's not enough. We need to be able to use the natural resources around us. We also need to think about other things as well for the sake of the tourists and the locals. For instance, the other day I went to my local credit union but couldn't get a parking spot in their parking lot (had to find one around the corner). There were only 2 other customers in the credit union besides me. See what I mean? We do have to plan for downtown parking and things like that. We want people here but we want our town "fathers" to also think about the local people as well. Of course we want progress. We are suffering economically. Anyone is welcome here anytime. I travel to other places as well so I certainly don't begrudge people traveling here. It's just that there going to be growing pains and we all know it. It's going to be very hard for many people here given the makeup of this community. We are not as large as Alpena. Geez, lighten up! We're both on the same side of progress!
tom from Alpena

Atlanta, GA

#56 Jul 17, 2008
My last post was in response to post # 41, by "The Watcher" (of people driving through Oscoda).
The Watcher

Eau Claire, WI

#57 Jul 17, 2008
Tom from Alpena posting from Atlanta, Georgia: Why is it no one addresses the question of why communities are not clammoring to have dragstrips? What is so appealing about them that everyone wants one somewhere else? Doesn't every community need the economic boom you associate with them? As someone said some months ago, it's not likely dragstrip fans are going to stop at the Oscoda Ace to pick up a new kitchen faucet as they pass thru town to or from the track. Again I ask, where is the economic boom generated by the race track in Whittemore with racing every weekend? As for dragstrip noise which the local proponents insist will be minimal, when they ran the Corvette on the Oscoda runway a couple of months ago it was heard at River Road and U.S. 23. Noise that was described by one local official as intense. Don't tell me about Kalitta, Timco, and the Air Force. The Air Force is long gone and that noise is no longer a national defense necessity. Kalitta and Timco are sporadic instances of short duration not something that gpes on for three days every weekend. Another great place for your dragstrip would be the Harrisville International Airport. Check it out!
tom from Alpena

Atlanta, GA

#58 Jul 18, 2008
I'm not posting from Georgia, Einstein. That's where my ISP is located.
The Watcher

Eau Claire, WI

#59 Jul 18, 2008
TFA why do you not address the question asked? Why aren't are all economically depressed communities clammoring to have dragstrips?
tom from Alpena

Thermal, CA

#60 Jul 20, 2008
I've already addressed that question. Not all communities have the combination of a ready-made location and someone willing and able to foot the bill.
jack

Mio, MI

#61 Mar 19, 2009
The Watcher wrote:
Why does the hillman wheels car club put on a race day only one day a year? What is the problem with doing it there every weekend? I'm sure the Hillman economy could use 1500 people every weekend...
Hillman wheels does it on a street in the public as a special event, insurance is a big killer for them although the event makes cosiderable money. That being said the Wheels club is STUPID and lame

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