Global Warming vs. Climate Change: Does It Make a Difference?

Nov 17, 2011 Full story: WNYC-AM New York 51

I am a regular listener to NPR, and it seems to me that the network has systematically started saying "climate change" instead of "global warming." ....If I am wrong in this observation, I am sorry.

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“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#1 Nov 18, 2011
"Global warming" on the other hand is a man-made disaster."
ROFLMAO at this child.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#2 Nov 18, 2011
A warmer world would be a disaster because growing seasons would be longer, there would be more rain, warmer weather and CO2 enhanced agriculture, there would be less ice and snow and less ice blocked shipping, there would be less winter kill of wildlife, and we would have lower heating bills. That's why a warmer world would be a disaster.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#3 Nov 18, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
A warmer world would be a disaster because growing seasons would be longer, there would be more rain, warmer weather and CO2 enhanced agriculture, there would be less ice and snow and less ice blocked shipping, there would be less winter kill of wildlife, and we would have lower heating bills. That's why a warmer world would be a disaster.
You're right, a warmer world would feed more people, leading to an increased population and a decrease in heating costs for people who live nearer to the poles.
All in all, not a nice scenario for the doom and gloom alarmists who will only be satisfied if a biblical catastrophe strikes.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#4 Nov 18, 2011
Yes, and they don't like any speed bumps on the way to catastrophe biblical or otherwise.

http://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/feature...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#5 Nov 18, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
Yes, and they don't like any speed bumps on the way to catastrophe biblical or otherwise.
http://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/feature...
There's something radically wrong in the States of the America.
From that NASA link:
"Since then, sea level has risen by a little more than an inch each decade, or about 3 millimeters per year. While most years have recorded a rise in global sea level, the recent drop of nearly a quarter of an inch, or half a centimeter"
From 'inch' to 'millimeter' to 'inch' to 'centimeter' and that's NASA?
harvey

Columbus, OH

#6 Nov 18, 2011
Sounds like a rather silly attempt by a Denier to invent some sort of "PC controversy" and to pin it onto traditional enemy, public broadcasting, to boot.

If not, my apologies. But in case you're really confused, not merely trolling (which I doubt), it works like this:

Global Warming is bringing on climate change. Warming by itself....would just mean the temperatures were a tiny bit higher. Warming has larger and further-reaching effects, though, anything from changing weather patterns to causing droughts to increasing dangerous storms to even altering ocean currents, not that that's happened yet.

In any case, warming is happeneing and so is climate change. And NPR didn't invent it...:)
harvey

Columbus, OH

#7 Nov 18, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>There's something radically wrong in the States of the America.
From that NASA link:
"Since then, sea level has risen by a little more than an inch each decade, or about 3 millimeters per year. While most years have recorded a rise in global sea level, the recent drop of nearly a quarter of an inch, or half a centimeter"
From 'inch' to 'millimeter' to 'inch' to 'centimeter' and that's NASA?
Maybe instead of your usual sniffling and whining about the spellings, grammar, and usages of others, you could actually construct a meaningful comment about the NASA information? Or is that asking too much?
harvey

Columbus, OH

#8 Nov 18, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You're right, a warmer world would feed more people, leading to an increased population and a decrease in heating costs for people who live nearer to the poles.
All in all, not a nice scenario for the doom and gloom alarmists who will only be satisfied if a biblical catastrophe strikes.
Scientists are trying to inform people of the dangers of warming so as to avert a catastrophe. Your kind simultaneously makes fun of the dangers and lies about potential outcomes.

"An increased [world] population" is a GOOD idea, to you?

LOL (shaking head in disbelief)
harvey

Columbus, OH

#9 Nov 18, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
"Global warming" on the other hand is a man-made disaster."
ROFLMAO at this child.
You're certainly doing nothing to prove him incorrect, Denier loon...
harvey

Columbus, OH

#10 Nov 18, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
A warmer world would be a disaster because growing seasons would be longer, there would be more rain, warmer weather and CO2 enhanced agriculture, there would be less ice and snow and less ice blocked shipping, there would be less winter kill of wildlife, and we would have lower heating bills. That's why a warmer world would be a disaster.
What your lame attempt at sarcasm misses is that it would also lead to higher ocean levels, flooding of oceanfront areas and seaports, massive changes in weather patterns which could leave many fertile or productive areas dustbowls or deserts, increased numbers and violence-levels of storms, changes in ocean currents, etc.

Just a 'rough with the smooth' thing to you, or don't you care about the dangers?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#11 Nov 18, 2011
Every cloud has a silver lining.

When they couldn't sell global warming they changed the name.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#12 Nov 18, 2011
Brian_G wrote:
Every cloud has a silver lining.
When they couldn't sell global warming they changed the name.
First, those two statements not fit together, and secondly, who are these mysterious "they?"

No one's "changed the name," as I've already explained. Both "names' are still out there, and they link up together quite well, Professor Warming Mitigation...:)

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#13 Nov 18, 2011
Brian_G wrote:
Every cloud has a silver lining.
When they couldn't sell global warming they changed the name.
Then they tried GCD, global climate disruption, but that didn't catch on.
The original name was simply GC, global change.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#14 Nov 18, 2011
Earthdung wrote:
<quoted text>Then they tried GCD, global climate disruption, but that didn't catch on.
The original name was simply GC, global change.
Prove it, liar. I want cites and sources.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#15 Nov 18, 2011
dunkey wrote:
Prove it, liar. I want cites and sources.
I don't care what you want, if you think I'm lying, "Prove it" yourself.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#16 Nov 18, 2011
dungey wrote:
Prove it, liar. I want cites and sources.
Here's the deal, I'll provide 'official' cites and sources if you promise to apologise, how's that, dungey?

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#17 Nov 18, 2011
harvey wrote:
What your lame attempt at sarcasm misses is that it would also lead to higher ocean levels, flooding of oceanfront areas and seaports,
The empirical record over the last nearly 20 years of satellite altimetry says that the rate of sea level increase is decelerating. You will have to find another bogeyman to scare people with. More and more people every day aren't buying your scare story. U.S. President Obama was laughed at in his 2010 state of the union speech when he brought up "Climate Change" in 2011 he didn't mention it. Why do you suppose that is?
harvey wrote:
massive changes in weather patterns which could leave many fertile or productive areas dustbowls or deserts,
And maybe not, especially since the IPCC in its AR4 Chapter Ten Executive summary tells us that a warmer world will have more precipitation.
harvey wrote:
increased numbers and violence-levels of storms,
Empirical records says that's not happening.
harvey wrote:
changes in ocean currents, etc.
Not happening.
harvey wrote:
Just a 'rough with the smooth' thing to you, or don't you care about the dangers?
'rough with the smooth'?????????

NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#18 Nov 18, 2011
Steve Case wrote:
A warmer world would be a disaster because growing seasons would be longer, there would be more rain, warmer weather and CO2 enhanced agriculture, there would be less ice and snow and less ice blocked shipping, there would be less winter kill of wildlife, and we would have lower heating bills. That's why a warmer world would be a disaster.
Nah. It is because it would be drier in most of the agricultural regions mostly. A billion might survive which is only good news if you are one out of seven.. the other six may have objections...

http://www.tikkun.org/tikkunblog/wp-content/u...

But you go on dreaming your little dreams. Don't worry about reality. Adults are on the job.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#19 Nov 18, 2011
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah. It is because it would be drier in most of the agricultural regions mostly.
Your claim of drier conditions doesn't agree with the empirical record so far. If you go to NOAA's U.S. Climate at a Glance by region page:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/...
and look up the Annual 1895 - 2010 precipitation in the four southern regions you will find the following decadal trends:

West -.06/decade
Southwest .06/decade
South .26/decade
Southeast .30/decade

That averages out to an increase of 0.14 inches per decade. You and your "scientists" can claim anything to the contrary they want. I'll believe the actual record.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#20 Nov 19, 2011
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
Nah. It is because it would be drier in most of the agricultural regions mostly. A billion might survive which is only good news if you are one out of seven.. the other six may have objections...
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkunblog/wp-content/u...
But you go on dreaming your little dreams. Don't worry about reality. Adults are on the job.
It's good to know that you're not one of those adults, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, you're a laughing stock.

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