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Po Editorial: Need an Id to vote? They're available now

There are 255 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Aug 28, 2012, titled Po Editorial: Need an Id to vote? They're available now. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

If you mean to vote this year as an apparently marginal American who somehow manages to live a life without a government ID card, a photo ID of last resort should now be available.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Chambersburg Public Opinion.

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Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#247 Nov 6, 2012
A Talking Horse wrote:
PERRY COUNTY
E-voting touch screen registers Obama vote for Romney!!!
Just saw a smart phone video on WGAL 8 - try to vote for Obama - and it puts a check on Romney!
This Voting Machine Won’t Let You Vote for Obama

I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney.

Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'.

From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine.

All other buttons worked fine.

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video here:
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“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#248 Nov 6, 2012
A Talking Horse wrote:
PERRY COUNTY
E-voting touch screen registers Obama vote for Romney!!!
Just saw a smart phone video on WGAL 8 - try to vote for Obama - and it puts a check on Romney!
Video of machine that only votes for Romney.

http://youtu.be/QdpGd74DrBM
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#249 Nov 6, 2012
This Voting Machine Won’t Let You Vote for Obama

http://gizmodo.com/5958105/this-voting-machin...
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#250 Nov 6, 2012
Effington wrote:
<quoted text>
I always thought that people who say others need to "get a life" without any explanation or supporting argument are always the ones who actually need to get one. It's like saying "it is what it is." It's being asinine without being clever or interesting. It's making a comment for the sake of commenting, but without actually saying anything.
In a word, it's pathetic.
He popped in last week too...
another whomever wrote:
You guys could probably make yourselves useful on another type forum. But TOPIX? Please.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chambersburg-...

That's the extent of his skill set - posting to Topix to bitch about people posting on Topix.
UNKNOWN

Jenkintown, PA

#251 Nov 6, 2012
I'll bet Obama is leading early as all the Romney voters are at work.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#252 Nov 6, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
He popped in last week too...
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chambersburg-...
That's the extent of his skill set - posting to Topix to bitch about people posting on Topix.
Seems like a real winner.
UNKNOWN

Jenkintown, PA

#253 Nov 6, 2012
A Talking Horse wrote:
PERRY COUNTY
E-voting touch screen registers Obama vote for Romney!!!
Just saw a smart phone video on WGAL 8 - try to vote for Obama - and it puts a check on Romney!
Gee, that was a smart phone!!!

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#255 Nov 6, 2012
UNKNOWN wrote:
I'll bet Obama is leading early as all the Romney voters are at work.
I usually don't sink to this level, but today is special:

PERSONS 25 YEARS OLD AND OVER WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR MORE
Rank/State/Politics
1/Massachusetts/Blue
2/Maryland/Blue
3/Colorado/Swing
4/Connecticut/Blue
5/New Jersey/Blue

PERSONAL INCOME PER CAPITA IN CURRENT DOLLARS
Rank/State/Politics
1/Connecticut/Blue
2/New Jersey/Blue
3/Massachusettes/Blue
4/New York/Blue
5/Maryland/Blue

VIOLENT CRIMES 1 PER 100,000 POPULATION
Rank/State/Politics
1/South Carolina/Red
2/Tennessee/Red
3/Nevada/Swing
4/Florida/Swing
5/Louisiana/Red

INFANT MORTALITY RATE
Rank/State/Politics
1/Mississippi/Red
2/Louisiana/Red
3/Alabama/Red
4/Tennessee/Red
5/Arkansas/Red

PERSONS BELOW POVERTY LEVEL
Rank/State/Politics
1/Mississippi/Red
2/Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana/Red, Red, Red
3/New Mexico/Blue
4/West Virginia/Red
5/Oklahoma/Red

Can someone please explain to me why the most prosperous states are all blue, the most fucked up states are all red yet people still have the balls to make implications like this?
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#258 Nov 6, 2012
Effington wrote:
<quoted text>
I usually don't sink to this level, but today is special:
PERSONS 25 YEARS OLD AND OVER WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR MORE
Rank/State/Politics
1/Massachusetts/Blue
2/Maryland/Blue
3/Colorado/Swing
4/Connecticut/Blue
5/New Jersey/Blue
PERSONAL INCOME PER CAPITA IN CURRENT DOLLARS
Rank/State/Politics
1/Connecticut/Blue
2/New Jersey/Blue
3/Massachusettes/Blue
4/New York/Blue
5/Maryland/Blue
VIOLENT CRIMES 1 PER 100,000 POPULATION
Rank/State/Politics
1/South Carolina/Red
2/Tennessee/Red
3/Nevada/Swing
4/Florida/Swing
5/Louisiana/Red
INFANT MORTALITY RATE
Rank/State/Politics
1/Mississippi/Red
2/Louisiana/Red
3/Alabama/Red
4/Tennessee/Red
5/Arkansas/Red
PERSONS BELOW POVERTY LEVEL
Rank/State/Politics
1/Mississippi/Red
2/Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana/Red, Red, Red
3/New Mexico/Blue
4/West Virginia/Red
5/Oklahoma/Red
Can someone please explain to me why the most prosperous states are all blue, the most fucked up states are all red yet people still have the balls to make implications like this?
Excellent question.

It's the same pattern with other things the right claims to have moral objections to.

Take for instance - receiving government hand-outs...

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Analysis from Mother Jones using data from the IRS, The Tax Foundation, and the US Census:

Most Red States Take More Money From Washington Than They Put In

Even as Republicans gripe about deficit spending, their states get 30 cents more federal spending per tax dollar than their Democratic neighbors.

.

Analysis from Politifact:

Republican-leaning states get more in federal dollars than they pay in taxes.

Mostly true

.

Analysis from Dartmouth College:

RED STATES LOVE "FREE STUFF" BLUE STATES PAY THE BILLS

In a paradox of the Electoral College, Republican presidential candidates since 1984--when data on state tax burdens are first available---have won most of the states that benefit from federal spending, while Democrats have won most of the states that bankroll the federal government.

In every year during this 20-year period, between 25 and 32 states have gained more in federal spending programs than they have paid in taxes to the federal government, while the remaining minority of states has footed the bill.

This political economy of redistribution plays out in the Electoral College as increasingly Republican states are increasingly dependent on federal spending.
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#261 Dec 5, 2012
The poetic justice is extremely gratifying...

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How The Voter ID Crusade Backfired On Republicans

The Republican push to make it more difficult to vote this year — seen by many as a racially tinged attempt to keep Democratic turnout down — could not have failed more spectacularly, a top African American activist told a left-leaning think tank Tuesday.

Chanelle Hardy, a vice president at the National Urban League, told an audience at the Center For American Progress in Washington that, as conservatives had suspected, there was a drop-off in enthusiasm among the African American electorate between 2008 and 2012. Republicans based a lot of their strategy on enthusiasm dips like these, assuming that Obama wouldn’t be able to maintain the same level of minority turnout he had enjoyed in 2008.

Unfortunately for those Republican strategists’ plans, however, other Republicans in legislatures across the country were on a quest to impose restrictions on voting, chasing the ghost of in-person voter fraud.

Those Republican legislators flipped a switch with the African American vote, Hardy said, rekindling whatever enthusiasm had waned after 2008’s historic Obama win.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#263 Dec 6, 2012
But Dan. DAN! Voter ID has nothing to do with disenfranchising voters. It's about preventing fraud!

Oh, that argument doesn't hold up??

Well... well.... well then, what's the big deal, you have to show ID for everything anyway! Stop whining and do what we say because we say so!!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#264 Dec 21, 2013
Academic research uncovers what fair-minded, objective observers have been saying all along...

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Researchers Find Factors Tied To Voting Restriction Bills Are 'Basically All Racial'

"We looked at proposed and passage over this period, and we looked at just 2011 specifically," Bentele told TPM in an interview this week. "And you have this consistent emergence -- over and over and over -- these partisan and racial factors are the most strongly associated with these outcomes."

The paper focused on a range of restrictive voter access legislation. That means not just voter ID bills, but also the regulation of groups who register voters, the shortening of early voting periods, and other issues. And these efforts were not limited geographically. Restrictive voter access legislation was proposed in nearly every state in the country during the six-year period looked at, and at least one restrictive change passed in half the states.

According to Bentele, the most striking findings came when analyzing only the proposed restrictive access legislation. There were a "handful" of factors associated with the proposal of more bills in recent years, Bentele said, and "they're basically all racial." States that saw higher minority turnout in the previous presidential election, and states that had more African American and non-citizen residents, saw more bills proposed.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/study-...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#267 Dec 23, 2013
Are Voter ID Laws a Form of Racism?
- A former Republican tells it like it is: voter ID laws unfairly burden minorities.

Democrats are frustrated: Why can't Republican voters see that Republicans pass voter ID laws to suppress voting, not fraud?

Democrats know who tends to lack ID. They know that the threat of in-person voter fraud is wildly exaggerated. Besides, Republican officials could hardly have been clearer about the real purpose behind these laws and courts keep striking them down as unconstitutional. Still, Republican support remains sky high, with only one third of Republicans recognizing that they are primarily intended to boost the GOP's prospects.

How can Republican voters go on believing that the latest wave of voter ID laws is about fraud and that it's the opposition to the laws that's being partisan?

To help frustrated non-Republicans, I offer up my own experience as a case study. I was a Republican for most of my life, and during those years I had no doubt that such laws were indeed truly about fraud. Please join me on a tour of my old outlook on voter ID laws and what caused it to change.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/v...
legal in every state

Los Angeles, CA

#268 Dec 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Are Voter ID Laws a Form of Racism?
- A former Republican tells it like it is: voter ID laws unfairly burden minorities.
Democrats are frustrated: Why can't Republican voters see that Republicans pass voter ID laws to suppress voting, not fraud?
Democrats know who tends to lack ID. They know that the threat of in-person voter fraud is wildly exaggerated. Besides, Republican officials could hardly have been clearer about the real purpose behind these laws and courts keep striking them down as unconstitutional. Still, Republican support remains sky high, with only one third of Republicans recognizing that they are primarily intended to boost the GOP's prospects.
How can Republican voters go on believing that the latest wave of voter ID laws is about fraud and that it's the opposition to the laws that's being partisan?
To help frustrated non-Republicans, I offer up my own experience as a case study. I was a Republican for most of my life, and during those years I had no doubt that such laws were indeed truly about fraud. Please join me on a tour of my old outlook on voter ID laws and what caused it to change.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/v...
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dannyBOY

why does obummer care require a photo ID?

isn't that racist?
wildly exaggerated

Los Angeles, CA

#269 Dec 23, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Are Voter ID Laws a Form of Racism?
- A former Republican tells it like it is: voter ID laws unfairly burden minorities.
Democrats are frustrated: Why can't Republican voters see that Republicans pass voter ID laws to suppress voting, not fraud?
Democrats know who tends to lack ID. They know that the threat of in-person voter fraud is wildly exaggerated. Besides, Republican officials could hardly have been clearer about the real purpose behind these laws and courts keep striking them down as unconstitutional. Still, Republican support remains sky high, with only one third of Republicans recognizing that they are primarily intended to boost the GOP's prospects.
How can Republican voters go on believing that the latest wave of voter ID laws is about fraud and that it's the opposition to the laws that's being partisan?
To help frustrated non-Republicans, I offer up my own experience as a case study. I was a Republican for most of my life, and during those years I had no doubt that such laws were indeed truly about fraud. Please join me on a tour of my old outlook on voter ID laws and what caused it to change.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/v...
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Obamacare’s ID restrictions and liberal voting rights hypocrisy

It appears that, in order to receive Obamacare subsidies,

enrollees may need state-issued identification.

It’s ironic, then, that Attorney General Eric Holder recently sued the state of North Carolina over its new voter ID law.

The state law allows prospective voters three years

— until the 2016 elections

— to obtain a valid ID to vote.

Obamacare,

available for enrollment as of October 1,

begins punishing those without identification in just three months through its individual mandate.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/15/obamacares-...

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