Local group hopes to build motocross track in Vallejo

Dusty, sweaty and exhilarated, the three would ride their motocross bikes for hours. Full Story
VJOBACKER

Irving, TX

#1 Dec 5, 2008
Good luck Dan, I wish you the best... But like almost every good idea that comes to the City, the CIty of Vallejo will truly bungle, and mess it up. A truly good idea.... But making it Private is more likely to mean it will actually work.....
poof

San Francisco, CA

#2 Dec 5, 2008
It's a good idea, that's why it won't happen. Maybe a pay-to-ride facility would sway the entrenched government leadership.
greatidea

Pittsburg, CA

#3 Dec 5, 2008
I would go a couple times a month easily. Not to mention the amount of spectators that would pay to watch races or friends and family practice. Look at Sandhill in Brentwood, Argyle in Dixon, Club Moto in Livermore. They are regularly packed which =$$$. Also people will buy food, gas, etc. The city of Vallejo will not do this, but it is a great idea.
resident

San Francisco, CA

#4 Dec 5, 2008
This a great idea for the city of Vallejo to bring in money, but do not include the statement it will be good for the youth of our city, something for them to do, this is an expensive sport and most parents of our cities youth do not have the money for this.
Skeptic

San Jose, CA

#5 Dec 6, 2008
This will be good for who exactly?

It seems the city of Vallejo has all the planning prowess of a starry eyed high school girl.

If they really, truly wanted to create revenue from its own citizen, stop funding all these little projects that only appeal to niche groups.

Case and point, the skatepark.

“"Strength and honor"”

Since: Jun 08

Vallejo

#6 Dec 6, 2008
I think this is a great idea. How bout a first class softball facility also that will bring in hundreds of people for tournaments.

The major problem I see for this project will be Shively and Gomes, as usual. Gomes will want five hundred study sessions to see how worms will be effected by the construction. Will art work be included in the design?

Shively will flat out reject it because Sarna is a member of the evile empire. Even though it is contradictory to her "lets get through this together" mantra.

Such a predicatable city council.

Since: Mar 08

Sunnyvale, CA

#7 Dec 6, 2008
Saul Goode,

This is what City Planners in good cities do. Lots of planning, analysis, review, and communication.

This type of activity has no been a part of Vallejo's past for many decades, which is why there is so much resistance to it now.

Keep in mind, it is the lack of analysis and work sessions that have got Vallejo to where it is now. Good cities do not operate that way.
Saul Goode wrote:
will want five hundred study sessions to see how worms will be effected by the construction.
VHS

San Francisco, CA

#8 Dec 6, 2008
Great idea guy's, I hope the paralysis of analysis crowd doesn't get in the way of this project. Anything we can do to keep the kids interested in healthly activities is a yes vote in my book.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#9 Dec 6, 2008
The Empress/VIB crowd will have their panties in a bunch if this thing ever begins to materialize. They will notice that Tiburon, Sausalito ect .... have no such facilities and it will get the support Walmart got.

Since: Mar 08

Sunnyvale, CA

#10 Dec 6, 2008
VHS,

So in this economy, exactly how many kids do you think this will benefit? As sports go, this is one of the most expensive.

Part of the analysis is actually doing marketing surveys to see how many people in the area have bikes that would actually go on a regular basis. And whether they have kids or not.

Basing a decision on, "Uhh, I know lots of people that would go." Is not how you do things. People here think it's a great idea, and I'm just wondering on what data and information do they base that on.

Project cost? Annual maintenance fees? Land cost? Revenue sources and any halo affects to surrounding businesses?

I doubt none of those things have been looked at, so how anyone can say it's a good or bad idea is beyond me.
VHS wrote:
Great idea guy's, I hope the paralysis of analysis crowd doesn't get in the way of this project. Anything we can do to keep the kids interested in healthly activities is a yes vote in my book.
J R Canaguier

Chico, CA

#11 Dec 13, 2008
Great idea. I've been racing motocross for almost 30 years. I might be able to add some constructive input. Keep it private. Just give the city enough clout to get funding and support. Everything else will fall into place. If it turns out half as good as Marysville's E Street and Riverfront tracks it will be a great success.
VHS

San Francisco, CA

#12 Dec 13, 2008
VallejoGuy wrote:
VHS,
So in this economy, exactly how many kids do you think this will benefit? As sports go, this is one of the most expensive.
Part of the analysis is actually doing marketing surveys to see how many people in the area have bikes that would actually go on a regular basis. And whether they have kids or not.
Basing a decision on, "Uhh, I know lots of people that would go." Is not how you do things. People here think it's a great idea, and I'm just wondering on what data and information do they base that on.
Project cost? Annual maintenance fees? Land cost? Revenue sources and any halo affects to surrounding businesses?
I doubt none of those things have been looked at, so how anyone can say it's a good or bad idea is beyond me.
<quoted text>
You think too much. Give kids permission to be on a piece of property and turn them loose. They'll figure out how to have fun with it. In the end though, your crowd will win probably win out. Dour old people (in spirit) who really care nothing about kids and care more about “analysis” will surely work to block this project.

Since: Mar 08

Menlo Park, CA

#13 Dec 13, 2008
VHS,

Yes, I agree about the piece of property. Some of us call those City and State parks though.

I always think it's funny how if someone thinks something is a good idea, then there is no need for review or analysis. But if they don't like the idea, then they demand that a committe be formed to investigate and determine if it will work.

Whether I like an idea or not, it has to be reviewed and discussed to determine if there is a solid business case for it.

As for being dour and old, I seriously doubt you would use either of those words to describe me if you met me in person.
VHS wrote:
<quoted text>
You think too much. Give kids permission to be on a piece of property and turn them loose. They'll figure out how to have fun with it. In the end though, your crowd will win probably win out. Dour old people (in spirit) who really care nothing about kids and care more about “analysis” will surely work to block this project.

Since: Mar 08

Menlo Park, CA

#14 Dec 13, 2008
J R Canaguier,

To be clear, if this does generate revenue and bring in people from other cities then I would absolutely support the idea.

There are many factors to consider though. Are the other motocross parks funded by the city? If these are privately owned parks, why hasn't anyone opened one in Vallejo.

Seems to be that if there was money to be made on this, a private investor would be looking at it.
J R Canaguier wrote:
Great idea. I've been racing motocross for almost 30 years. I might be able to add some constructive input. Keep it private. Just give the city enough clout to get funding and support. Everything else will fall into place. If it turns out half as good as Marysville's E Street and Riverfront tracks it will be a great success.
foxmototriplex

Vallejo, CA

#15 Jan 17, 2010
Where is the land? Vallejo had at least 6 places to ride 10-15 years ago. Anyone that has ever owned a dirtbike and lived in vallejo knows that ON ANY SUNDAY you would see between 10-50 locals riding at these places until COSTCO, Hess construction, Tiarra estates, Target, a couple lawsuits, and a lot of illegal dumping forced these places to fence up and get shut down. The guys that actually owned motorcycles and pay for registration and green stickers weren't the ones that got these places shut down, it was the low life no good scumbags of vallejo riding stolen motorcycles, not wearing helmets etc.. that got these places shut down. Between myself and my small circle of friends they could generate enough revenue to at least get some attention from the city. and hopefully the good kind of attention and maybe some support. If anyone is serious about getting a riding spot in vallejo post your information so that other people who want to help can help. PS VALLEJOGUY have you ever riden a dirtbike?
Susannah Scullin

American Canyon, CA

#16 Nov 16, 2013
We have a Kawasaki 110 registered and green and are looking for a place to ride that is local other than carnegie. The lot by Target used to be open, but I'm thinking it is shut now? Where can I take my son to ride his dirtbike here in Vallejo?

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