Butte supervisors send marijuana ordi...

Butte supervisors send marijuana ordinance back to the drawing board

There are 12 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Feb 23, 2011, titled Butte supervisors send marijuana ordinance back to the drawing board. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

After five hours of passionate, often accusatory and sometimes threatening public testimony, the Butte County Board of Supervisors decided to send a proposed marijuana cultivation ordinance back to the drawing board.

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Matthew Meyer

Palo Cedro, CA

#2 Feb 23, 2011
So glad that people turned out and made their voices heard. This was a terrible ordinance.

But Butte Co. 215 patients had better get organized if they don't want to see a slightly less terrible version of this come back.

How about a growers' alliance to propose its own regulations? What is reasonable?
John Churchman

United States

#3 Feb 23, 2011
This website has updated information on the medicinal value of Cannabis.
http://leavesofgrass.info/info/newsettler.pdf
STUPIDITY RUNNING WILD

Chico, CA

#4 Feb 23, 2011
im happy that that ordinance was rejected ;i county was trying to do away with the "compassionate" part of the law -people Must respect their neighbors rights too,as much as possible...
LmP11

United States

#5 Feb 23, 2011
Posted this on another thread. thought it was relevant here. Street prices of marijuana are going for around 1000, a lb right now. about 5-6 years ago it was 3-4 thousand a pound. Due to the quantities put out there by normal people growing in their yards the price has been driven down by 75%. Now think who does this hurt most. Your answer should be the Mexican Cartels.
The cartels still have to put forth the same or more effort as they always have. They still have to bribe officials, still have to pay for shipping, still have to pay for their criminal network. However they have to do it making 25% of the money per lb that they were making before.
Next lets look at violent crimes against pot growers. Lets say you grow your six plants and get six lbs of pot. A few years back that 6 lbs was worth 18-24k and thats if sold by the lb. Now its worth 6k. If you are a group of thugs i bet you are more willing to pull an armed home invasion when the payout is substantially more lucrative.
Now what does this mean in context to the county's proposed ordinance? Lets start with the fees.$844 for 1 plant. Plus a per plant fee. You are looking at $900 just to put one plant in the ground. Add to that the cost of water, soil, and care and that plant now costs more than the current price of pot.
Congratulations by passing this ordinance you will make it economically unfeasable for the average citizen to grown their own marijuana.
Who will profit from this? Two groups, Illegal drug networks and big farming. The proposed minimal property size to grow enough pot is 160 acres. Who owns 160 acres besides the big time farmers? Not even the family farmers have 160 acres for the most part.
The cartells will profit because the price will invariably go up. By cutting out the backyard gardener the big farmers will be able to settle on a price that makes them rich and makes the government happy in kickbacks and "fees". Now the cartells who are miffed because their enterprise has been hurt by backyard gardeners come back to full strength.
Followning through with this bill will be another way for the government to keep the common citizen down. Anyone interested in basic human rights or just wants to smoke pot needs to step up and be heard in this situation

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#6 Feb 23, 2011
I just couldn't see that ordinance passing the way it was, I mean at this point in time, if it had, they would have ended up arresting half of Butte County. I don't think the courts nor the jail nor the sheriff's dept. could have handled that at all.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#7 Feb 23, 2011
Thank you everyone who likes and supports the freedom to grow and smoke MARIJAUANA. We need to legalize hemp.
damspam

Paradise, CA

#8 Feb 23, 2011
"They said the skunk-like smell of the plants as they near maturity and the threat of armed thieves is a significant issue for public safety."

Using that logic, we should outlaw skunks and banks. The skunks smell like skunks, and banks attract armed thieves.

Ramsey logic is fun, isn't it?
Real Deal

Chico, CA

#9 Feb 24, 2011
damspam wrote:
"They said the skunk-like smell of the plants as they near maturity and the threat of armed thieves is a significant issue for public safety."
Using that logic, we should outlaw skunks and banks. The skunks smell like skunks, and banks attract armed thieves.
Ramsey logic is fun, isn't it?
I want a $ 44 fee band per hamburger sold,as we can see by the recent robbery at Big Al's,burgers,shakes,and fries might be an underlying cause of crime !Jewelery stores,banks,anyone or anything that could be burglarized or robbed ! We must control this by more government agencies and code agents LMAO
Mercy

Chico, CA

#10 Feb 24, 2011
damspam wrote:
"They said the skunk-like smell of the plants as they near maturity and the threat of armed thieves is a significant issue for public safety."
Using that logic, we should outlaw skunks and banks. The skunks smell like skunks, and banks attract armed thieves.
Ramsey logic is fun, isn't it?
I AGREE that smell is HORRIFYING it almost has
the odor of SEWER! It is beyond me how anyone
believes it does anything for them as I have
been around it growing up in Oregon and one of
the most violent men in town was a violent pot
smoker who beat his wife kids and dog! He moved
on and upgraded to METH with WEED and ALCOHOL
all mixed together and lost his family - all of
them which was a very well known family then one
day when he was HIGH N MIGHTY he went and jumped
off the BRIDGE betting everyone he was the BEST
in the WHOLE ENTIRE TOWN!!! YEA RIGHT!!! He had
SEWER IN HIS BRAINS!!! Oh he beat his girlfriends
to all the way to the HOSPITAL what a guy!
Robin Hood

United States

#11 Feb 25, 2011
Matthew Meyer wrote:
So glad that people turned out and made their voices heard. This was a terrible ordinance.
But Butte Co. 215 patients had better get organized if they don't want to see a slightly less terrible version of this come back.
How about a growers' alliance to propose its own regulations? What is reasonable?
Mr. Meyer couldn't have said it better. The time to organize is NOW. Doctors, cultivators, and script holders need to develop themselves into a "class". Members of that class will need to pitch in and hire an attorney - a good one would be Rob McKenzie in Chico. The attorney needs to review the document, and determine the language that needs to be changed in order to comply with other laws e.g., Prop 215 and HIPAA (medical confidentiality). At the next BOS meeting this attorney can speak for the entire class and may also approach county counsel with proposed solutions to the ordinance based on the expertise of the class. The message should be sent to the county that the class is not a problem, but rather wants to be part of the solution.
Other good contacts for the class would be the Farm Bureau, The American Civil Liberties Union (there is a Chico Chapter), and the director of NORML- [email protected]
If a class cannot be organized, prominent growing areas should at the very least elect a few representatives to go through the ordinance and send suggestions to their County Supervisor. Also, emails should be sent to Supervisors thanking them for their decision to reconsider the ordinance as written.
More respect could be shown to the BOS during their meetings. They proved they were more than willing to listen to 5 hours of public protest, so we can at least do them the courtesy of waiting for our turn to speak, and let citizens with opposing opinions speak. I would encourage everyone to dress nice - even Rick Tognoli had a suit on, which is appropriate attire when addressing a governing board.
Good luck to everyone, and I'll look forward to seeing all of you at the next meeting! Until then, there is happiness in Nottingham..…..
Just for the record, Tehama County organized themselves into a class. They brought a class action suit against the county over their ordinance. They lost, but they are now in the Court of Appeals. Also, I'd like to point out that when Mendocino enacted their version of this ordinance, the very first farmer to register and comply with it was promptly busted by the Federal Government. County law enforcement did not even have the authority to intervene. So keep your eyes open people; the whole thing could be a set up.

Peace and love,
Robin Hood

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#12 Feb 25, 2011
Thank You Mr Hood for your outstanding post, your approach is admired by me.
FRODO

Chico, CA

#13 Feb 25, 2011
Robin Hood is right about organizing and having an attorney involved. MacKenzie is the best and is now fighting the County over search warrants filed with bad information to establish probable cause for a Judge to believe it. Look beyond the ability to search 3 times a year to see if you are in compliance. We might as well throw away the Bill of Rights on search and seizure.This is a way to search you and your property without due process and the rights given to us. This makes you on probation or parole and you haven't even been convicted or been in the system. This is a tool and a tool only for the Law to come on your property without probable cause, reasonable cause,or search warrant.

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