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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201881 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228463 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Perhaps someday you'll get a real argument, until then you are just jerking off.
Marriage. There is no one right way.
oooooo.... unoriginal sound bite mentality.... how exciting

Since: Feb 09

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#228464 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Sheeple is struggling with an answer over in another thread-
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TCR09D1CU...
Thanks for the link, I just paid a visit.

Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.

"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228465 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
The reason polygamy is illegal is moral disapproval, and that is not a valid reason. That's my argument.
Now X Breath will rebut my argument with "you didn't go to school..." or "You are a drug addict" or similar stupid non response.
Moral disapproval is only one argument. Is that all you have?

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228466 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Miss Thing. You can't ban something that is already banned.
Why is it banned?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228467 Jan 27, 2014
Jake wrote:
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You can laugh all you want X, I would like to see you go to Mahmouds country and try convincing them that ot's ok to be queer. ahahahahaahahahah
Yeah.... just like you go there and convince them to be Christian.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228468 Jan 27, 2014
Jake wrote:
Mahmoud, can you tell X what will happen to him if he pushes the gay cult lifestyle in the middle east. I bet they would strap his ass over a fence and let a cammel have at it ! ahahahahahah
Get writing that give you a chubby?

Since: Feb 09

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#228469 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath: If you believe ANYTHING the Baptists say, you have bigger problems to worry about.

ALAN: I have never trusted any religious person.

Xavier Breath: Polygamy was already banned BEFORE Prop 8.

ALAN: I'll alert the media!

Xavier Breath: Marriage is not required for continuing society's existence.

ALAN: Why are you telling me this?

Xavier Breath: Denying marriage to gay couples does NOTHING to enhance traditional marriage.

ALAN: Why are you telling me this?

Xavier Breath:The law served no purpose other than to discriminate against gay couples.

ALAN: Why are you telling me this?

Xavier Breath: That why they LOST in court.

ALAN: I'll alert the media.

Xavier Breath:"Redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would jettison the rationale and logic behind prohibitions on polygamous marriages," Not true.

ALAN: Prove it.

Xavier Breath:There are plenty of reasons for keeping polygamy illegal that have NOTHING to do with SSM.

ALAN: And just what, exactly, are those reasons?

Since: Feb 09

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#228470 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Is that your long answer for "No?"
We are still waiting for your reasons as to why polygamy should remain illegal.

And think about this: Alcohol was legal, and then it wasn't and now it is again. Polygamy was legal and now it isn't. But soon it will be.

In a Republic this kind of legal fickleness is prohibited and when you let Christians destroy that Republic and change it into a democracy where the majority rules, laws go back and forth. Are you convinced that gay marriage will never be illegal again?

There are still some backward counties in America where Alcohol is illegal unless you are the cops.

Since: Feb 09

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#228471 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Someone who tries to argue that "one man one woman only" isn't relevant to polygamy obviously has ulterior motives.
I wish our resident Mob-o-philes would explain exactly what their ulterior motives are.

There is nothing "wrong" with a woman marrying a man who already has a wife. It is illegal but legal and illegal have nothing to do with right and wrong.

Since: Feb 09

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#228472 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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How can you ban something that isn't there, Frankie?
Asked and answered.

Since: Feb 09

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#228473 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Someone who claims to have a degree in cultural anthropology that thinks polygamy is a good idea obviously has ulterior motives..... maybe even a compulsion to lie.
If Frankie has lied in here, please post the lie, otherwise you are attacking the messenger because you are unable and incapable of refuting his message.

What qualifies you to be an authority in this discussion? What are your degree's?

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228474 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Why is a loving marriage of three consenting adults a bad idea? Suppose you and two other guys all felt you wanted to marry and form a family? Why do you want to limit your options? Why not leave the possibility open?
There was a case described in the Advocate of three gay men wishing to marry. It was touching. I am rooting for them, why aren't you? If you got to know a happy poly family you'd have to have a very cold heart to wish to deny them rights that you enjoy.
Marriage is good for society. Even marriages you for whatever selfish reasons don't approve of.
Nicely said Frankie, I feel your love. Our resident authoritarians will never understand nor feel the love you have for freedom, because they lay awake at night worried that the people in the next trailer might be doing something they do not approve of.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228475 Jan 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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That you argue so vehemently that prop 8 didn't also ban polygamy tells us all we need to know about your motives.
I really don't see the point otherwise.
Prop 8 says, "one man one woman" so clearly that means one man, two woman is illegal as is two men or two women.

Our resident authoritarians might as well argue that 1+1 doesn't equal 2.

Perhaps they have no motives and just like Christians are told by their mommies that there is a God, perhaps the mommies of authoritarians told them polygamy is wrong and now they will insist on it for the rest of their lives because no new information will get in to show them how wrong their mommy was about this.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228476 Jan 27, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Xavier Breath: If you believe ANYTHING the Baptists say, you have bigger problems to worry about.
ALAN: I have never trusted any religious person.
Xavier Breath: Polygamy was already banned BEFORE Prop 8.
ALAN: I'll alert the media!
Xavier Breath: Marriage is not required for continuing society's existence.
ALAN: Why are you telling me this?
Xavier Breath: Denying marriage to gay couples does NOTHING to enhance traditional marriage.
ALAN: Why are you telling me this?
Xavier Breath:The law served no purpose other than to discriminate against gay couples.
ALAN: Why are you telling me this?
Xavier Breath: That why they LOST in court.
ALAN: I'll alert the media.
Xavier Breath:"Redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would jettison the rationale and logic behind prohibitions on polygamous marriages," Not true.
ALAN: Prove it.
Xavier Breath:There are plenty of reasons for keeping polygamy illegal that have NOTHING to do with SSM.
ALAN: And just what, exactly, are those reasons?
I'm certain you won't read any of this, but here: http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/11/15/...
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228477 Jan 27, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Prop 8 says, "one man one woman" so clearly that means one man, two woman is illegal as is two men or two women.
Our resident authoritarians might as well argue that 1+1 doesn't equal 2.
Perhaps they have no motives and just like Christians are told by their mommies that there is a God, perhaps the mommies of authoritarians told them polygamy is wrong and now they will insist on it for the rest of their lives because no new information will get in to show them how wrong their mommy was about this.
One tiny problem.... Prop 8 did NOT say "one" man "one" woman.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228478 Jan 27, 2014
George Gobal wrote:
<quoted text> So if it's okay for a man to marry another man based upon sexual appetite, what are you going to do about a man that's bisexual? Shouldn't he be able to marry another man and a woman to satisfy his sexual appetite? I mean, after all, it only make sense. I'm all for bisexual marriages and it should be the law of the land. There is a slight problem and that's if a bisexual marries another bisexual. If that happens, then you end up with a bisexual man marrying another bisexual man and you can have two other men and two women involved which means you end up with 6 people all married together. Or how about a bisexual man marrying a bisexual woman and the bisexual man also has a man as his wife and the bisexual woman has another woman as her husband. This really gets complicated, but it's only fair to consider all these possibilities and make allowances for each and every situation.
Let's hear it for bisexual marriages!
Let us hear it for freedom! Anything peaceful consenting adults want to do with other peaceful consenting adults is perfectly acceptable in our American Republic. People who have their heads up their ass's, authoritarians, hate freedom because they are terrified that someone might do something they are uncomfortable with. Authoritarians like those who want to limit the sex and the number of people one can marry. Each individual should make their one decision if they want to remain single or marry a man or a woman or a man AND a woman as well as two women, or two men. You have the right to make your own peaceful relationships with other consenting adults and our resident authoritarians have no right, although they have the power of the Government, to stop you.

This means that all of our authoritarians are morally bankrupt. The religious who want to stop gay marriage and the gays who want to stop polygamy are all equally morally bankrupt.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228479 Jan 27, 2014
garbonzo wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. But I think you meant Miss *Thang (not *Thing).
I checked with my gay cousin and both are used interchangeably these days. He said Miss Thing came first followed by Miss Thang. He said Miss Thing was started by white drag queens and Miss Thang was started by black drag queens. Whether he knows what he is talking about is irrelevant, I find both funny.
Mint

La Puente, CA

#228480 Jan 27, 2014
Doggie breath and all their follower's, get a mint big enough for all of you and chew then swallow.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#228481 Jan 27, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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How can you ban something that isn't there?
You mean like common sense from authoritarian gays on polygamy?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228482 Jan 27, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Let us hear it for freedom! Anything peaceful consenting adults want to do with other peaceful consenting adults is perfectly acceptable in our American Republic. People who have their heads up their ass's, authoritarians, hate freedom because they are terrified that someone might do something they are uncomfortable with. Authoritarians like those who want to limit the sex and the number of people one can marry. Each individual should make their one decision if they want to remain single or marry a man or a woman or a man AND a woman as well as two women, or two men. You have the right to make your own peaceful relationships with other consenting adults and our resident authoritarians have no right, although they have the power of the Government, to stop you.
This means that all of our authoritarians are morally bankrupt. The religious who want to stop gay marriage and the gays who want to stop polygamy are all equally morally bankrupt.
News Flash: polygamy was stopped a l-o-n-g time ago. It was illegal before Prop 8 and it remains illegal after Prop 8.

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