Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 20 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206101 Jul 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Now Big D says if you disagree with him you are "anti-American".
This is why I doubt that D ever was in the Coast Guard. He'd have more respect for his fellow Americans. He'd have learned to accept it.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206102 Jul 31, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Why must we continue to go through this?
At one time slavery was common practice. It was practiced far and wide for eons. It was only after the Age of Enlightenment that the abolition of slavery really caught on worldwide.
The once common practice of buying and selling human beings on the open market is very much like the once common practice of marriage being defined as only taking place between a man and a woman.
Our country has been bending toward justice since its inception. We have questioned common practice as it pertained to racial minorities, women, the handicapped, religious minorities, etc.
That traditional marriage has been altered to include couples of the same sex represents a continuation of the long tradition of seeking equality.
You cannot argue your case by saying, "It's the way we've always did it."
I'm always at least two steps ahead of you.
VV, the two have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. One violates the very existence of freedom of movement and any sort of choice, at all, the other places the need for societal acceptance upon the "couple" wishing to be "married", and depends upon the societal acceptance, else the couple can freely go where they wish, with no let or hindrance.
Altered or not, SSSB has no right to suddenly create a self-eminence and thrust itself (no pun intended) into the mainstream. Marriage is a privelege, not a right.
You're not "two steps ahead", you're attempting to compare apples and pencils.....
The only similarity between the two is that one can make a stain with either....
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206103 Jul 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Big D conveniently ignores any information that doesn't fit his argument as if it didn't exist. No need to read it. He already knows it's wrong.
...I've noticed...
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206104 Jul 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Now Big D says if you disagree with him you are "anti-American".
It's why, if we were in the same room, I'd throw every drink I could find in his face...
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206105 Jul 31, 2013
Then, I'd slap him, many times....Until he left the room..... F***ing traitor, that's what he is.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#206106 Jul 31, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text> This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:
Mark 7:21-22
"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."
This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:
Matthew 19:4-5
"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said,'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"
So, what you're saying is that Christ didn't know the word for homosexual? He spoke Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic and there were plenty of words to describe various homosexual relationships in these languages.

I'm not buying it.

And regarding your comment about "A man will leave his father and mother..."; that simply describes one type of relationship. Just because He discussed marriage between opposite gender couples doesn't mean that He discounted relationships between same-gender couples.

You CANNOT use the Books of the Bible as a historical rule book--a place in which all answers to all questions are found.

That is why we are encouraged to develop a personal relationship with God. When there is doubt, you and I can go to Him for guidance.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206107 Jul 31, 2013
D has no right to call himself an "American". He's too quick to remove anyone else's citizenship. He ignores the fact that any true American cherishes his fellows rights to have a different opinion, even if it annoys him. I do. I respect anyones right to have an opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and would never presume to tell anyone (that was born here or naturalized, as per THE LAW) that they are not an American. Anyone who wishes to supress the opinion of a fellow American should be deported, to a country where such behavior is commonplace.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206108 Jul 31, 2013
suppress

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#206109 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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VV, the two have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. One violates the very existence of freedom of movement and any sort of choice, at all, the other places the need for societal acceptance upon the "couple" wishing to be "married", and depends upon the societal acceptance, else the couple can freely go where they wish, with no let or hindrance.
Altered or not, SSSB has no right to suddenly create a self-eminence and thrust itself (no pun intended) into the mainstream. Marriage is a privelege, not a right.
You're not "two steps ahead", you're attempting to compare apples and pencils.....
The only similarity between the two is that one can make a stain with either....
Meh... You're entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine.

From where I sit, it is an equality issue.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#206110 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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VV, the two have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. One violates the very existence of freedom of movement and any sort of choice, at all, the other places the need for societal acceptance upon the "couple" wishing to be "married", and depends upon the societal acceptance, else the couple can freely go where they wish, with no let or hindrance.
Altered or not, SSSB has no right to suddenly create a self-eminence and thrust itself (no pun intended) into the mainstream. Marriage is a privelege, not a right.
You're not "two steps ahead", you're attempting to compare apples and pencils.....
The only similarity between the two is that one can make a stain with either....
That didn't make a bit of sense.

And you can't deny that under the laws of this land, the courts have indeed long ruled that marriage is a right, not a privilege. A basic civil and human right.

Your opinions really don't matter that much, and gay Californians are still marrying, staying married, and setting wedding dates.

Learn to live with it.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206111 Jul 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
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That didn't make a bit of sense.
And you can't deny that under the laws of this land, the courts have indeed long ruled that marriage is a right, not a privilege. A basic civil and human right.
Your opinions really don't matter that much, and gay Californians are still marrying, staying married, and setting wedding dates.
Learn to live with it.
Of course it did, Quest, of course it did. Slavery removes an individuals right to make ANY kind of choice. Food, Clothing, Work, Familial Association, any sort of choice at all. Not granting the PRIVILEGE of marriage to a same gender couple hardly has the same effect. Surely, you cannot dispute this?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#206112 Jul 31, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Meh... You're entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine.
From where I sit, it is an equality issue.
Yes, you are. And, no matter which side of the fence we found ourselves on, I'd not deny you your citizenship because of it. Even if were I promoting SSM, and you opposing it. It's a pity that you didn't tell D that he has no right to imply that anyone, no matter how vocal, should be labelled an "Anti-American". It might have dispelled some of my opinion that you are a hypocrite. I have not asked you to do this, merely noted that you had a chance to show some integrity, and failed to capitalize on said opportunity...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#206113 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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1) Then I am glad to hear that. I am also glad the the normal lifestyle was the way to go...
2) No, I'll stop here, snap judgments are not always sound ones.
:-D
But, to go against the best traditions of this room, I'll apologize for being wrong, and admit so.
You graciousness will surely be ignored by the rainbow committee. No good deed goes unpunished.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#206114 Jul 31, 2013
girl scout2013 wrote:
Hello power rangers. I'm a girl scout and I'm sellin cookies to the highest bidder because I want to sell the most! Does anybody know any good stories about plundering booty?
Jizzy does! He's an old salt. And he has plundered much booty.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#206115 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
D has no right to call himself an "American". He's too quick to remove anyone else's citizenship. He ignores the fact that any true American cherishes his fellows rights to have a different opinion, even if it annoys him. I do. I respect anyones right to have an opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and would never presume to tell anyone (that was born here or naturalized, as per THE LAW) that they are not an American. Anyone who wishes to supress the opinion of a fellow American should be deported, to a country where such behavior is commonplace.
Hear hear!

P.S. Great post but Big D will ignore it as if you never posted it. Judging by experience, he will not respond.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#206116 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you are. And, no matter which side of the fence we found ourselves on, I'd not deny you your citizenship because of it. Even if were I promoting SSM, and you opposing it. It's a pity that you didn't tell D that he has no right to imply that anyone, no matter how vocal, should be labelled an "Anti-American". It might have dispelled some of my opinion that you are a hypocrite. I have not asked you to do this, merely noted that you had a chance to show some integrity, and failed to capitalize on said opportunity...
VV will not criticize Big D no matter how outrageous Big D gets. And vice versa. It's a violation of the rainbow code.
Mister Hanky

Louisa, VA

#206117 Jul 31, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I was going sh/t while I replied to you on five threads. When I wiped, I went back to bed. Look at the times.
Oh great. Save the poop chronicles for your blog. That special corner of the interwebby where self absorbed colon deposits share their highly valued opinions with all of anonymity.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#206118 Jul 31, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Yes, you are. And, no matter which side of the fence we found ourselves on, I'd not deny you your citizenship because of it. Even if were I promoting SSM, and you opposing it. It's a pity that you didn't tell D that he has no right to imply that anyone, no matter how vocal, should be labelled an "Anti-American". It might have dispelled some of my opinion that you are a hypocrite. I have not asked you to do this, merely noted that you had a chance to show some integrity, and failed to capitalize on said opportunity...
1.) As you might imagine, your opinion of me is not something that I sit and fret about. You have been nasty to me in the past. And based on that, I assumed that you didn't have much of an opinion of me to begin with.

2.) To be perfectly honest, I do not read every comment you, Frankie, Big D, etc. post. Frankly, there are just too many. I only check TOPIX 3 or 4 times a day; sometimes more, sometimes less. So, I did not see the post that you're referring to.

3.) I think I've made it perfectly clear that I am not the TOPIX police. I rarely, if ever, "judge" a person's comment--either negatively or positively. If I happen to see a post where someone has said something that I REALLY do not agree with or I REALLY agree with, I might respond. Otherwise, don't expect me to come to someone's rescue, even if what is being said is offensive. I don't expect it of other people when I leave a comment. I can defend myself without anyone's help.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#206119 Jul 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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VV will not criticize Big D no matter how outrageous Big D gets. And vice versa. It's a violation of the rainbow code.
See my above comment to Rock...
sheesh

Washington, DC

#206121 Jul 31, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
It was just a matter of time, a new family TV show "the Fosters" shows two lezbos fullfilling their SSM on national TV series. Do we block this show from OUR young impressionable chldren? YES!! This is the fist step in public education as I predicted long ago. It wont be long before hetero students will particiipate in the non reproductive science education class where a homo teacher will show on a similar reproduction chart but in reverse ! haha ...how to insert penis into anus. Oh for those of you morons out there I am being very sarcastic.
I presume you're one of the adults in the house. Don't want your kids watching something, don't let them. Honestly, the airwaves are loaded with garbage. An endless supply of channels with 24 hours of white noise. Make them go outside and play some baseball or ride a bike.

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