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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201871 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#187187 Apr 7, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>Well excuuuuuuse me!

K Mart's been around probably over 50 years, don't write the obituary just yet. Great fishing tackle. Ammo.
I prefer Cabella's or Gander Mountain for my Ammo.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#187188 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>K Mart is still around. Not quite the job killing entity that MalWart is though. I won't say I've never ducked into either store, but I'm not a regular. I try to support local businesses with my trade. Not that there are many of them left. I really don't mind paying a little bit more.

Keep on imagining those pics though. I'm flattered you're thinking about me. Just to enhance your fantasy, think long hair, dishwater blond going grey, beard doing the same, denim, T-shirt, and Caterpillar boot wearin' motorcyclist. No ink, full set of teeth except the four pulled for braces (no white bread and mayonaise smile too, clean 'em in the morning and after each meal, not afraid of floss either) average build. Lots of scars, mostly inflicted by critters and a dirt bike wreck or two. Not too tall, not too short.
Yeah I just threw up in my mouth a little from your description.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#187189 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone? The US has about 20% of adults smoking. It shouldn't be too hard for you to find a new crowd. It ain't as easy to smoke while you're out on the town these days either, not at least here. Even the prisons are smoke free. Which is a mistake as the stuff tends to be calming in stressful situations.
In my town you cannot smoke in your apartment or on it's grounds or even the parking lot. You can only smoke in a single family unattached house. No duplexes.

People from the apartments huddle in front of the single family houses near them to smoke. Lots of them. At all hours. New laws new problems.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#187190 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone? The US has about 20% of adults smoking. It shouldn't be too hard for you to find a new crowd. It ain't as easy to smoke while you're out on the town these days either, not at least here. Even the prisons are smoke free. Which is a mistake as the stuff tends to be calming in stressful situations.
The best thing prison will do for criminals may be to make them stop smoking. Most of the other effects of prison are negative. Except keeping them away from us.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187191 Apr 7, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Denial of what?... Why SSM is virtually a modern Western creation?
It is making progress in the east, slowly, just like it has been doing here. What does it matter that it is a product of western civilisation? Lots of things are that you use every day.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#187192 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
K Mart is still around. Not quite the job killing entity that MalWart is though. I won't say I've never ducked into either store, but I'm not a regular. I try to support local businesses with my trade. Not that there are many of them left. I really don't mind paying a little bit more.
Keep on imagining those pics though. I'm flattered you're thinking about me. Just to enhance your fantasy, think long hair, dishwater blond going grey, beard doing the same, denim, T-shirt, and Caterpillar boot wearin' motorcyclist. No ink, full set of teeth except the four pulled for braces (no white bread and mayonaise smile too, clean 'em in the morning and after each meal, not afraid of floss either) average build. Lots of scars, mostly inflicted by critters and a dirt bike wreck or two. Not too tall, not too short.
Hubba Hubba!
Obskeptic

Waterford, MI

#187193 Apr 7, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Assuming that "being gay is not a choice", what are the ramifications, societal obligations, personal responsibilities, etc.?
Why not just a societal "so what"? It is what it is. Why does that mean marriage redefinition? SSSB is not new, why does it require redefinition of legal marriage?
Because regardless of the moral issues surrounding the gay lifestyle, they are collectively outraged at being denied and they demand to be treated equally, even if it is by force of law. So once the outraged left can claim victory over the part of society that believes it is immoral, they will find a new cause celeb to direct their collective outrage and turn the bully crowd they run with on the rest of us again, until all of us and the country has been marginalized and weakened to the point that taking what little that is left will be easy. We will all give it up without so much as squeak. That is the end game.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#187194 Apr 7, 2013
Big D wrote:
again you have missed the point Ability or intent to have children has never ever once been a requirement for a marriage license, that is no argument whatsoever against same sex marriage, the point is moot, already dismissed in more than one court of law
Do you dismiss the value of husband/wife couples raising their children without government interference? Same sex couples are gender segregated, barren and break the perfect symetry of male/female marriage custom. Same sex marriage is taboo.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#187195 Apr 7, 2013
So, if marriage to another man is marriage equality for gays and marriage to another woman is marriage equality for lesbians then marriage to another man and another woman is marriage equality for bisuexuals, right? Then, if we change marriage law based on orientation then polygamy must be legalized. That's not good.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#187198 Apr 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
So, if marriage to another man is marriage equality for gays and marriage to another woman is marriage equality for lesbians then marriage to another man and another woman is marriage equality for bisuexuals, right? Then, if we change marriage law based on orientation then polygamy must be legalized. That's not good.
Even gays believe you marry a (1) partner. A life partner. Any marriage of more than 2 individuals becomes another entity legally. Why do you try to broaden the topic. Oh I know because you have no good argument against it other than to change the topic and broaden its scope.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187199 Apr 7, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah I just threw up in my mouth a little from your description.
You have something against nice teeth and long hair? I've been told I look like several celebrities. They've changed as I aged and cut my hair, Robert Plant & Roger Daltry were first (the hair was sunbleached blonde in my youth and very very long), Kenny Loggins (hair grew back darker after cutting it for grad school interview process). A few years and a hair cut later (for a job) I became Chuck Norris. And Jesus (that was one that stuck with me from teenage years to present each time my hair was long). That was hilarious. I told people to be careful as I might kick their arse instead of saving it. This was after I opened my own business and didn't have to answer to anyone about appearances. I wear it in a ponytail and cut off about a foot every three years to give to Locks of Love.

The Chuck Norris one was probably the most accurate for up close. I had a gaggle of kids follow me around a store one time giggling and hiding behind displays to get a peak at me. When I walked out they were waiting and sent the youngest one over to ask if I was Chuck Norris. Only he was a little confused and asked if I was Bruce Lee (absolutely no resemblance whatsoever). I nearly fell over with laughter. Kids can be really cruel at times, but they can be very cute and entertaining too.

Oh, I have been propositioned by gay men on a few occasions. Politely declined.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187200 Apr 7, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hubba Hubba!
Calm down Frankie, I'm married.:p
Obskeptic

Waterford, MI

#187201 Apr 7, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Even gays believe you marry a (1) partner. A life partner. Any marriage of more than 2 individuals becomes another entity legally. Why do you try to broaden the topic. Oh I know because you have no good argument against it other than to change the topic and broaden its scope.
Or maybe you believe that by dismissing anyone making a legitimate point, you narrow the argument to the point that only your side has any relevance or credibility.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187202 Apr 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Do you dismiss the value of husband/wife couples raising their children without government interference?
Why would he? Makes no sense to ask.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#187203 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Calm down Frankie, I'm married.:p
Got carried away there. Sorry.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#187204 Apr 7, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe you believe that by dismissing anyone making a legitimate point, you narrow the argument to the point that only your side has any relevance or credibility.
Again what's the topic? Something about gay marriage right??

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187205 Apr 7, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Because we want to have the same rights and benefits as a traditional m/f marriage. Why can't we have that how does it hurt anyone?
Why? There was a time when marriage was dismissed by the gay community as too "heteronormative", reserved for "breeders"....

Why does it matter that a personal intimate sexual SSR is legally labeled "marriage"?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#187206 Apr 7, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
1.) Not even worth addressing
2.) "Boy Toy" is a term given to a younger man (not a child or minor) who is with someone much older.
And let me ask you a question... If gay sex with a minor is "homosexuality", then what is heterosexual sex with a minor considered? Would it be heterosexuality or just pedophilia?
1. You mean you have no defense.

2. I'd say there is homosexual pedophilia and heterosexual pedophilia. I also think there are homosexuals and heterosexuals who take advantage of minors. To deny either of those facts is to leave children vulnerable. You do so to excuse homosexuals. Despicable.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#187207 Apr 7, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
You have something against nice teeth and long hair? I've been told I look like several celebrities. They've changed as I aged and cut my hair, Robert Plant & Roger Daltry were first (the hair was sunbleached blonde in my youth and very very long), Kenny Loggins (hair grew back darker after cutting it for grad school interview process). A few years and a hair cut later (for a job) I became Chuck Norris. And Jesus (that was one that stuck with me from teenage years to present each time my hair was long). That was hilarious. I told people to be careful as I might kick their arse instead of saving it. This was after I opened my own business and didn't have to answer to anyone about appearances. I wear it in a ponytail and cut off about a foot every three years to give to Locks of Love.
The Chuck Norris one was probably the most accurate for up close. I had a gaggle of kids follow me around a store one time giggling and hiding behind displays to get a peak at me. When I walked out they were waiting and sent the youngest one over to ask if I was Chuck Norris. Only he was a little confused and asked if I was Bruce Lee (absolutely no resemblance whatsoever). I nearly fell over with laughter. Kids can be really cruel at times, but they can be very cute and entertaining too.
Oh, I have been propositioned by gay men on a few occasions. Politely declined.
I look like Bruce Willis. Smirk and everything.

Smile.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#187208 Apr 7, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Why? There was a time when marriage was dismissed by the gay community as too "heteronormative", reserved for "breeders"....

Why does it matter that a personal intimate sexual SSR is legally labeled "marriage"?
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SEX!!!!!!!!!!
It's about the rights and benefits that we are denied when we are in the same type of relationship as straight married couples. Medical benefits and rights of spouses, tax benefits, inheritance etc. 1,138 rights and benefits we are denied.

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