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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#232523 Sep 9, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal wrote:
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And you sound like a nut!
Keep massaging your ego.

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#232524 Sep 9, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>BS...eat your words. You can't take a sentence from any book and get the meaning, Read the whole book, understand the culture, the time, place.....
The same old 'out of context' ruse. The verses I posted, in or out of context have the same meaning, make the same point, and their meaning is not changed.

"...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee (Genesis 3:16)."
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;....(1 Cor. 11:3)."
"Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man (1 Cor. 11:9)."
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife.... Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in every thing (Eph. 5:22-24)."

If they are out of context, put them back into context and prove I am wrong. How simple would that be?

What about these, are they out of context? It concerns the question of whether or not God's face has been seen.

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Versus

Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."

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#232525 Sep 9, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal wrote:
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I have NEVER seen a Mexican atheist
I have never seen a real Christian.

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#232526 Sep 9, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal wrote:
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Atheist country my ass...Go down S.
America has NEVER been a Christian country and everyone is born an Atheist.
Cali Girl 2014dal ct

Murrieta, CA

#232528 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>Keep massaging your ego.
I'm not massaging my ego. As if
you bother me? I just think you
don't respect women. That's
your problem. Just like I don't
tell others what to say to posters.
BTW, you are far from a Santa
type....
Cali Girl 2014dal ct

Murrieta, CA

#232529 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>I have never seen a real Christian.
Open your eyes.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#232530 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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America has NEVER been a Christian country and everyone is born an Atheist.
The fabric of this country has been Christianity. It motivated it's conception and guided it's character.

The more society moves from that fabric, the more the fabric of society unravels.

The belief in the supernatural permeates humanity. Atheists are a minority.

Smile.
Cali Girl 2014dal ct

Murrieta, CA

#232531 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>America has NEVER been a Christian country and everyone is born an Atheist.
That's untrue! You are born with
no knowledge of God, true. But
to say when you are born an Atheist
or non believer, is BS. How can you
say that, when you are born with no
knowledge of anything, let alone
being a Christian or Atheist!

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#232532 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The same old 'out of context' ruse. The verses I posted, in or out of context have the same meaning, make the same point, and their meaning is not changed.
"...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee (Genesis 3:16)."
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;....(1 Cor. 11:3)."
"Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man (1 Cor. 11:9)."
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife.... Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in every thing (Eph. 5:22-24)."
If they are out of context, put them back into context and prove I am wrong. How simple would that be?
What about these, are they out of context? It concerns the question of whether or not God's face has been seen.
John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."
Versus
Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."
I'm not here to write a book. Each verse should be read from the book it is in as a whole. Many times people have explained the meaning and you ignore it and go on to the next verse. Just to explain one of these verses might take a long response. Do you understand why people don't want to do that with you? This topic is not about getting you off on your hate. Nobody is trying to convert you, show some respect for others.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#232533 Sep 9, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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America has NEVER been a Christian country and everyone is born an Atheist.
She never said America is Christian country. atheism is the rejection of theism, or the idea of the existence of god/gods. Thatís really it. To be an atheist (that is, to reject the concept of the supernatural or divine) one must first be capable of comprehending what the supernatural or divine is; we need to have an understanding of theism in order to decide that it is worth rejecting. Such a mental process is beyond that of an infant, and runs contrary to the idea of tabula rasa (the blank slate).

In short, babies cannot be atheists. Because babies cannot comprehend the idea of a theist in order to add the Ďaí to it.

We are not born anything.
Sgt Peppers

Gardnerville, NV

#232535 Sep 9, 2014
Awe contrare. You are a born idiot. A Christian is a person who suspects that somewhere, somebody might be enjoying themselves, and they must be found and stopped.
Dmn fools

La Puente, CA

#232536 Sep 9, 2014
Quick get me a bible so I can join in on the idiots convention of bible thumpers.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#232537 Sep 10, 2014
Dmn fools wrote:
Quick get me a bible so I can join in on the idiots convention of bible thumpers.
Good, start at the beginning:

This isn't complicated, I simply asked how the recently understood details of the big bang theory confirm what the Bible noted thousands of years ago. How did they get in there?

Genesis 1:1-5 (NASB)
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Here we have science confirming what the very first verse of the Bible states: There was a specific moment when the heavens and earth were created.

Interestingly, the article YOU referenced noted that there are likely additional universes in existence, something also predated by the Bible speaking of Heaven and Hell.

2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

This verse notes that initially the earth was without form. Wow, NAILED that fact!

But get this! It notes two even more profound facts:

~The three most common elements are Helium, Nitrogen and Oxygen. "The Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters."

~"Darkness was over the surface of the deep." The article notes that light was restrained for hundreds of thousands of years!

"For the first 380,000 years or so, the universe was essentially too hot for light to shine. The heat of creation smashed atoms together with enough force to break them up into a dense plasma, an opaque soup of protons, neutrons and electrons that scattered light like fog."

3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

If you can't explain this, then simply say so, but I really expected a 'new age spiritual LEADER' to have a better grip on this...

Oh, something to think about down the road. The article notes the possibility that the universe could one day RETRACT! Something the Bible already noted...

http://www.space.com/52-the-expanding-univers...

Smile.
thumper

La Puente, CA

#232538 Sep 10, 2014
Quick get me two bibles so I can join in on the idiots convention of bible thumpers.
kstet

San Diego, CA

#232539 Sep 10, 2014
Gays would watch america go off a cliff for gay marriage

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#232540 Sep 10, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal ct wrote:
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I'm not massaging my ego. As if
you bother me? I just think you
don't respect women. That's
your problem. Just like I don't
tell others what to say to posters.
BTW, you are far from a Santa
type....
I guess I really ruffled your feathers didn't I. So now, tell me I didn't, and can't, ruffle your feathers.

This is not how I see women, this is how your BibleGod sees women, this is not me saying this, it is your God saying this, please pay attention this time:

"...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee (Genesis 3:16)."

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;....(1 Cor. 11:3)."

"Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man (1 Cor. 11:9)."

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife.... Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in every thing (Eph. 5:22-24)."

Your complaint is with God not me. I would never write stupid stuff like that, your God wrote that stupid stuff. And there is a whole lot more stupid stuff where that came from.

Eve, for example, is blamed for the creation of Original Sin. The Bible says as much:

"For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner (1 Tim. 2:12-14, NIV)."

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#232541 Sep 10, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal ct wrote:
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BTW, you are far from a Santa
type....
You got that from the handful of Bible verses I posted? Amazing.

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#232542 Sep 10, 2014
Cali Girl 2014dal ct wrote:
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Open your eyes.
To be a Christian one must be extremely poor--as poor as the proverbial church mouse. The Bible makes this quite clear:

"...none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has" Luke 14:33
"If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" Matt. 19:21
"Sell your possessions and give alms" Luke 12:33
"But give what is in your cups and plates to the poor, and everything will be clean for you" Luke 11:41
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt,.... But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.... for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" Matt. 6:19-21
"How hardly shall they that have riches enter to the kingdom of God" Mark 10:23
"Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" Matt. 19:23-24
A certain ruler told Jesus that he had obeyed all the commandments from his youth up. But, Jesus said, "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me" Luke 18:22, Mark 10:21

I have never seen a real Christian.

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#232543 Sep 10, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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The fabric of this country has been Christianity. It motivated it's conception and guided it's character.
You are exactly right, but that is something to be ashamed of not proud of.

"Then thou shalt take an awl, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise (Deut. 15:17, KJV)."

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and you can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly ( Lev. 25:44-46, NIV)."

"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property (Ex. 21:20-21, NIV)."

"I (the Lord) will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away (Joel 3:8, NIV)"

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men....(Eph. 6:5-7, NIV)."

"All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered (1 Tim. 6:1, NIV)."

"Slaves, obey your earthy masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord (Col. 3:22, NIV)."

"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,....(Titus 2:9, NIV)."

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your master with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also those who are harsh....Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps (1 Peter 2:18,21, NIV)."

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#232544 Sep 10, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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The more society moves from that fabric, the more the fabric of society unravels.
.
I am dedicated to destroying the "fabric" of Christianity in America because the more it "unravels" the more freedom there is for minorities. Your Christianity has stood in the way of freedom for 2,000 years and I can't tell you enough how happy I am to help hammer nails into Christianities coffin. Christianity is an abomination, it is a crime against humanity.

Song 5:4 "My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him."

Did you really read that to children in Sunday School?

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