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gene

AOL

#1 Jan 3, 2008
this was sent to( Connelly for district 1)wheather or not they read ir is a mystery

I want someone to address the unfair dui laws that have turned the law enforcement in to revenuers and destroys hard working people for having a couple of drinks ,and has turned our
courts into a play ground ,for DA's and pd's to make deals that so unfair and there's nothing a working man can do but pay .
I would also would like some one to address DVM as they pass judgement with out a jury and the PD's office dose not deal with DVM this is so unfair and Im sure I put this in the paper that there would be a great response , may I ask if you have the gonads to do something or are you just another flunky
that lies to get the office and kiss's the rear ends the rest
well I hope this is not put into the round file as the way things are now people are looking for a break in butte county from the drugs and the patrol officers just sitting around bars getting fat writing tickets that are probly lies if the person is not over there magic number , these unfair law forces people to be criminals this is more like a dictatorship then a republic
gene
annie

United States

#2 Jan 23, 2008
again i have to agree with this. violations after completeing all the costly classes and then because of one indescretion, they go high desert for violation of probabtion. i think they really need to look at this. misuse of their kobs. Butte County, ca is really bad for this. i think the whole probation dept needs to be looked at. also most are in for child support pmts. whats with that?
law abider

Grass Valley, CA

#3 Feb 1, 2008
The best and only advice is to stay out of the system,once they get their hooks in you and start cashing the checks they won't let go.Your payments justify their spiteful/compassionless jobs.
Simple DUI Solution

Romania

#4 Feb 3, 2008
The answer to the problem is really simple, don’t break the law. Drinking and driving is against the law. If you do it and you get caught (and I hope you do) you are rewarded with a DUI. It’s not that complicated. You can have a designated driver, you can call a friend, you can call your mom, you can take a taxi. There are a lot of ways to have a drink and get home safely. You just need to stop blaming your irresponsible ways on other people.
I think it is a real shame when a person who “just had a few drinks” runs into a innocent family and some one dies, but the “hard working citizen who only had a drink after a long day at work” doesn't die. That is a real shame.
I also can’t believe that someone could defend drinking and driving after all the innocent people who have paid the price for “one little indiscretion”. You have got to be kidding me. How many people have to die?
I guess Forest Gump was right, Stupid is as stupid does.
Bubba

United States

#5 Feb 24, 2008
Wow, it's nice to meet someone who believes this all could never happen to them.

There are case where people are slapped with a DUI with a BAC of 0.0

of course it is wrong to drive drunk
however, do you think just maybe the rules have gone a bit too far when they are yanking people out of the backseats of their cars, asleep and handing them a DUI?

and again, it's really nice to meet such a perfect person who never made a mistake or had a problem, even an unfair accusation.

keep up the good work!
Simple DUI Solution wrote:
The answer to the problem is really simple, don’t break the law. Drinking and driving is against the law. If you do it and you get caught (and I hope you do) you are rewarded with a DUI. It’s not that complicated. You can have a designated driver, you can call a friend, you can call your mom, you can take a taxi. There are a lot of ways to have a drink and get home safely. You just need to stop blaming your irresponsible ways on other people.
I think it is a real shame when a person who “just had a few drinks” runs into a innocent family and some one dies, but the “hard working citizen who only had a drink after a long day at work” doesn't die. That is a real shame.
I also can’t believe that someone could defend drinking and driving after all the innocent people who have paid the price for “one little indiscretion”. You have got to be kidding me. How many people have to die?
I guess Forest Gump was right, Stupid is as stupid does.
oroville citizen

Fremont, CA

#6 Feb 26, 2008
here is a concept: how about don't drink and drive. problem solved.
oroville citizen

United States

#7 Feb 26, 2008
Drink at home if you must. Why is it legal to go to a bar and have a drink, yet they expect you to get home some way? It's just ridiculous.
Mother against MADD

United States

#8 Mar 20, 2008
Here's what happened in our country:
In 1980 M.A.D.D. created a product that politicians call "drunk drivers(people) kill innocent people". It sells because it's for the "protection of the public interest" due to the 17,000 alcohol related vehicle deaths last year. It's a strict liability criminal offense with a high stigma meaning it's very easy to convict, and it carries crushing social penalties. An example: my son was convicted of his 1st DUI, 1st criminal offense (non-accident/damage) last month and was kicked out of law school, losing his academic scholarship and any chance for a respectable legal career. So, he walked down the public street, to a public access store, bought some items accessable to anyone above 18 or 21: cigarettes, benadryl, Nyquil, tasty cakes, and whiskey.
gene wrote:
this was sent to( Connelly for district 1)wheather or not they read ir is a mystery
I want someone to address the unfair dui laws that have turned the law enforcement in to revenuers and destroys hard working people for having a couple of drinks ,and has turned our
courts into a play ground ,for DA's and pd's to make deals that so unfair and there's nothing a working man can do but pay .
I would also would like some one to address DVM as they pass judgement with out a jury and the PD's office dose not deal with DVM this is so unfair and Im sure I put this in the paper that there would be a great response , may I ask if you have the gonads to do something or are you just another flunky
that lies to get the office and kiss's the rear ends the rest
well I hope this is not put into the round file as the way things are now people are looking for a break in butte county from the drugs and the patrol officers just sitting around bars getting fat writing tickets that are probly lies if the person is not over there magic number , these unfair law forces people to be criminals this is more like a dictatorship then a republic
gene
Phil Derdevanis

United States

#9 Apr 1, 2008
Blow high or not, you can still get a DUI just if the officer thinks you are under the influence. Too much power for someone who may have just taken a weekend course on determining that rapid eye movement must equal being under the influence. These laws are the same for someone who slides into a family of 6 or one that just blows high. I bartended 19 years and never had a problem until I moved here. The sentance(1st offense) included 50 hours community service where I was nearly stuck by a dirty needle doing my "time". Just remember this.......your mother who just took communion could get arrested, have to go to school, do 50 hours community service or jail time, pay fines, not be able to refusse a breath or blood test, not be able to drive with any traceable amouint of alcohool for 3 years, pay higher insurance rates and have the DUI appear on your record for 10 years just for blowing high. The law is not doing much for the casual responsible drinker except ruining their careers. These do gooders have it all wrong. Perhaps stiffer penalities for repeat offenders or those that hurt someone should be the rule and those that blew high their 1st time get a break. I don't believe any officers have had to go thru this nonsense like had to because their peers give them a "hall pass". These laws stink and I can understand why people would run from the officers if they thought they were going to get pulled over for an unfair law.
Not so critical

San Francisco, CA

#10 Apr 2, 2008
My husband ,had pizza and a few beers with some inploys after working late.He drove a shot distance and pulled over, because he felt groggy. He went to sleep. He woke up with a cop opening the door. he explained what happenrd. he was arrested and the car impounded.This cost thousands
of dollars.My husband is not a person who drinks often and has no record. would they rather a person continue driving?
Why do they allow liqour to be sold, when one drink will put you in jail? All counties would suffer at the loss of money, if not for these
corupt laws.I am against all liqour sales in bars and resterants.
Not so critical

San Francisco, CA

#11 Apr 2, 2008
My husband ,had pizza and a few beers with some inployes after working late.He drove a short distance and pulled over, because he felt groggy. He went to sleep. He woke up with a cop opening the door. he explained what happened. he was arrested and the car impounded.This cost thousands
of dollars.My husband is not a person who drinks often and has no record. would they rather a person continue driving?
Why do they allow liqour to be sold, when one drink will put you in jail? All counties would suffer at the loss of money, if not for these
corupt laws.I am against all liqour sales in bars and restrants.
bubu

United States

#12 Apr 11, 2008
I got a DUI and it sucks but I know that it was my fault. Ive never made such a bad mistake but I can still be glad that I didn't hurt anyone. I could have. So could all of you complaining. I dfon't drink and rive anymore. Maby you all should learn from your mistakes.
Phil Derdevanis

Chico, CA

#13 Apr 15, 2008
Here is some more I would like to add about how far in the wrong direction these DUI laws have gone. Officers use any excuse, often untrue, just to stop you with the intent of trying to give a ticket for a DUI (not a speeding ticket, not a broken tailight, not failure to come to a complete stop, etc.) It's all about the money (it's the economy stupid!). I don't want to see anyone drive who cannot. Its about saving lives, remember. Far too many of us are "criminals" that don't have to be. It's prohibition all over again! Have people been drinking that much more now than 25 years ago, I think not. Perhaps there are there just more people on the roads. When officers target certain bars and stop anyone leaving, we all have a problem with our civil liberities, whether we drink or not. As a professional bartender of 19 years, I know better than anyone else if I can drive home, which I won't do if I feel impared, but that is very rare. I am fully functional and not impared as the law says all peolpe are at .08 which is the -b on the DUI ticket or .00 which is the -a of the DUI ticket. You see, you can get a DUI without drinking 1 drop of alcohol if the officer just "thinks" you are impared. Again, way way too much power for someone to make a decision affecting your future. Therefore, I will continue to drink and drive whenever I want to irregardless of what the law says but never when I am impared. Most all others who go out at night face the same dilema. "Don't drink and drive" is easy to say for someone without a social life which includes wine with dinner, or an after dinner drink. My real name has been put on the post so all will know who I am, what I do, and how to find me!
thome032003

Newtown, PA

#14 Apr 23, 2008
Simple DUI Solution wrote:
The answer to the problem is really simple, don’t break the law. Drinking and driving is against the law. If you do it and you get caught (and I hope you do) you are rewarded with a DUI. It’s not that complicated. You can have a designated driver, you can call a friend, you can call your mom, you can take a taxi. There are a lot of ways to have a drink and get home safely. You just need to stop blaming your irresponsible ways on other people.
I think it is a real shame when a person who “just had a few drinks” runs into a innocent family and some one dies, but the “hard working citizen who only had a drink after a long day at work” doesn't die. That is a real shame.
I also can’t believe that someone could defend drinking and driving after all the innocent people who have paid the price for “one little indiscretion”. You have got to be kidding me. How many people have to die?
I guess Forest Gump was right, Stupid is as stupid does.
IF YOU DON'T KILL ANYONE, OR DAMAGE ANY PROPERTY, THAN WHY DO YOU GET CHARGED THE SAME AS SOMEONE WHO DID. YOU LOSE YOUR LICENSE FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, AND IN NO OTHER CRIME IS IT LIKE THAT. IF YOU KILL SOMEONE WITH A GUN, ITS MURDER, BUT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY KILL SOMEONE WITH A GUN WITH NO MOTIVE, THATS SELF DEFENSE AND MANSLAUGHTER. IF I KILL YOU BY FIRE ON PURPOSE, ITS ARSON, BUT IF I DON'T MEAN TO KILL YOU AND YOU DIE BY A FIRE I SET, ITS MANSLAUGHTER. SO, IF YOU DO THE CRIME, DO THE TIME. BUT, IF YOU JUST MADE A MISTAKE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE CHARGED AS IF YOU COMMITTED THE CRIME
tabby

Dexter, MI

#15 Jul 25, 2009
No one likes the idea of someone truly drunk getting behind the wheel. The laws in Michigan used to be too loose regarding this before 1980. The extreme nature however of these current drunk driving laws is yet another example of our society's tendancy for a pendulem swing and gross over kill. We are unnecessarily making criminals out of a lot of good people and putting them into some really unnecessary nasty situations, in my opinion.(I also agree with thome032003's comment.) For example; why on earth should someone who blows over this arbitray blood alcohol limit who has however been driving correctly then gets rear ended at a stop sign by someone who may not have been drinking, be faulted for an accident (and then get a dui)? Crazier things have happened. I hear all of you just saying "just don't drink and drive," you have a point. Nonetheless these laws are overkill and that is all that there is to it. If they are going to have this kind of legislation then there should be no liquor, beer wine, etc. served publically unless mass transit, etc. is beefed up where it is scarce or nonexistant. This whole drinking/driving thing has become an obesession (and a farce quite frankly) far beyond what is productive and benificial to society and the individual.
Tomz

Paradise, CA

#16 Jul 30, 2009
Simple DUI Solution wrote:
The answer to the problem is really simple, don’t break the law. Drinking and driving is against the law. If you do it and you get caught (and I hope you do) you are rewarded with a DUI. It’s not that complicated. You can have a designated driver, you can call a friend, you can call your mom, you can take a taxi. There are a lot of ways to have a drink and get home safely. You just need to stop blaming your irresponsible ways on other people.
I think it is a real shame when a person who “just had a few drinks” runs into a innocent family and some one dies, but the “hard working citizen who only had a drink after a long day at work” doesn't die. That is a real shame.
I also can’t believe that someone could defend drinking and driving after all the innocent people who have paid the price for “one little indiscretion”. You have got to be kidding me. How many people have to die?
I guess Forest Gump was right, Stupid is as stupid does.
Hey Simple, are you simple minded, don't you know that the law inforcement can walk right up to you on your property, in front of your house, while you are drinking a beer or three, and arrest you for public intoxication, and they do, so tell it to someone that cares,, DUI laws, are for revenue and that's it!!!!, Why do you think that in August of 2008, the traffic safety board awarded a grant to law inforcement to emeplment a 200 page document for law enforcment to have reasons to site you, and gathered up a task force of officers, primarily for DUI arrest, calling it the DUI Task Force, for revenue !!!!!!!! Staight up
To all of you idiots

Sacramento, CA

#17 Jul 30, 2009
You are not very smart. Straight up!
oroville citizen

United States

#18 Aug 6, 2009
gene wrote:
this was sent to( Connelly for district 1)wheather or not they read ir is a mystery
I want someone to address the unfair dui laws that have turned the law enforcement in to revenuers and destroys hard working people for having a couple of drinks ,and has turned our
courts into a play ground ,for DA's and pd's to make deals that so unfair and there's nothing a working man can do but pay .
I would also would like some one to address DVM as they pass judgement with out a jury and the PD's office dose not deal with DVM this is so unfair and Im sure I put this in the paper that there would be a great response , may I ask if you have the gonads to do something or are you just another flunky
that lies to get the office and kiss's the rear ends the rest
well I hope this is not put into the round file as the way things are now people are looking for a break in butte county from the drugs and the patrol officers just sitting around bars getting fat writing tickets that are probly lies if the person is not over there magic number , these unfair law forces people to be criminals this is more like a dictatorship then a republic
gene
don't drink and drive tardlings.
tabby

Dexter, MI

#19 Aug 6, 2009
"Tardlings?" brillinant comment! Very deep thinking, extraordinary vocabulary demonstrated, addressed the actual topic brought up for discussion oh so effectively! You have demonstrated an ability to differentiate the various points of a topic of discussion quite remarkably as well.(Just in case you were wondering, I am being sarcastic.)
Butte co cop

Oroville, CA

#20 Aug 6, 2009
Secrets out. DUI's make grand money for the cities and county. Yes bullys with badges feel some devine duty to arrest everyone that is leaving a bar and make up reasons to stop you, weaving whatever. Often times the DUI Offender is a person with enough money to pay the fines and pay for private DUI Schools to satisfy DMV to get your driving privialge restored. Sorry folks no money in arresting down and out crankters who will never pay their fines and require lots of jail time. DUI? Easy arrests, plentiful, easy money and little incarceration time.

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