AZ Hunting Amendment, Proposition 109

[okay]

ed dale wrote:

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I live in AZ and dont tell Texasses what they can do in their state

azies dont have the guts nor brains to tell the great state of texas, what to do, they dont even know what to do themselves.

[MiMi]

Wow people. So there are people who hunt and enjoy the meat. GET OVER IT! By only eating plants and vegetables, you are taking away the food that should belong to those animals to survive, so who are you to judge? Everyone has to make their own choices, and if some choose to hunt and eat what they hunt, who are you to tell them no? I love animals too, yet I still love eating what I hunt. This world is full of friggin liberals that think they need to control everything! Good lord, it scares me to think about the world by child is growing up in!

[laojim]

MiMi wrote:

.... This world is full of friggin liberals...

There you are folks, all you need to know! He doesn't know the half of it.

[Concerned voter]

Wow, I CAN"T BELIEVE i am back in junior high. This proposition doesn't take away hunting, it merely makes it a constitutional right, and makes it so only legislature, or not the voters, can decide on future decisions about hunting.

What it would do is make it impossible for laws to be passed by the general public to ban hunting, we would have to ratify our constitution (just the local constitution, not the federal one, don't freak out people) in order to change laws on hunting.

As you read, hopefully, because I assume a lot; well, anyway, as you hopefully have read, it also makes hunting the way of controlling wildlife, which means rangers wont be going out at the end of the year and killing deer in organized groups, because they do when it is a problem. They must keep the Eco levels normal, so they don't become a risk to the general population.

This is not a vote about hunting really, and less about vegetarians. It is about voting principles, and the future of law making in Our State.

[John]

Citizens of Arizona have long revered the constitutional right to the initiative process. It's served as an important political procedure when our officials fail to act in the public interest. Prop 109 intends to erode this constitutional right on wildlife protection issues. Today the power grab is directed at wildlife. Tomorrow, it could be anything else. That's why I'm voting NO on 109.

[Question Authority]

What does this proposition actually read as?
How different is it from Tennesee's?

[Info Junkie]

I am a proud liberal
(bash all you want cause that won't change regardless of what you say, which I ignore if it isn't based on fact, logic, or intelligent thought)
who is NOT against hunting. I'd prefer we hunt all the meat and fish we eat
(no, I'm not a vegetarian just because I am a liberal, I think our incisors are for something beyond leafy greens, among other reasons, like being the top of the food chain)
as opposed to raising meat in huge industrial facilities with poor conditions.
It makes far more sense sustainably speaking to eat, for example, a fish one caught in a lake vs. one that has been flown halfway across the world. Not that any of the lakes in AZ are natural, therefore the fish at one point in time were brought in. But that is besides the point. People want to walk into their local grocery and pick out a package meat and not think about where it came from, how it lived, whatever. Hunting for one's food it efficient, healthier, and gives a person the bigger picture of the cycle of life and food.

Now, hunting for sport? Kinda weird- people dominating nature cause we can, killing for fun. But whatever. I don't see that ceasing as long as this struggle over nature continues. I do hope someday we will view ourselves as a part of nature rather than in competition with it and in control of it. We can never be in full control. I have yet to see a man stop a tornado, earthquake, volcano.

Regarding this bill- I agree people should have the right to make the laws regarding wildlife in this state, AS LONG AS the majority is being intelligent about controlling wildlife populations. Intelligent being the operative word. I'll believe it when I see it. Ha!

[John]

I voted NO on 109 because it's a scary grab at power by the legislature. They want to tie the hands of Arizona voters. Today it's aimed at wildlife, who knows what it could be tomorrow! NO on 109!

[Love 2 Hunt]

laojim wrote:

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Down with gun nuts and their never ending demands for more and more opportunities to shoot anything that moves and their stoopid fairy tale agenda.
Speaking as a moving thing I think we just need more restrictions on gun possession.

Just take a couple more hits on the pipe and chill out lol Think you need to change your Depends

[Love 2 Hunt]

John wrote:

I voted NO on 109 because it's a scary grab at power by the legislature. They want to tie the hands of Arizona voters. Today it's aimed at wildlife, who knows what it could be tomorrow! NO on 109!

When it comes to hunting I,d trust the politicians way more then the nuts in PETA having anything to say about hunting

[laojim]

Love 2 Hunt wrote:

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Just take a couple more hits on the pipe and chill out lol Think you need to change your Depends

See what I mean, here we got a gun nut who doesn't even know how to speak or write politely and he wants to go around toting his gun in his pants' pocket. It's likely to go off and blow his brain out.

[bowhunterR]

Shotgun Slade wrote:

Hunting is a right given to all mankind since Adam & Eve... since the pilgrims... and since the Founding Fathers!
HUNTING FOREVER!
Down with WIMPS and anti-gun nuts and their stupid liberal agendas!

dude that is stupid yes we should still be able to hunt but if don't limit the amount of hunters then there will be nothing to hunt

[laojim]

bowhunterR wrote:

<quoted text>dude that is stupid yes we should still be able to hunt but if don't limit the amount of hunters then there will be nothing to hunt

That is correct. One of the things that has to be controlled in order for the animals to thrive is the number of hunters. You can't have people out there shooting Bambi all day and all night. I once lived in a hunting area in Missouri and during the season it was like war out in those woods with guys shooting everything that moved for weeks.

[WTF]

HAHAHA 109 went DOWN in FLAMES
Put that in YOUR pipe and SUCK it

[Love 2 Hunt]

WTF wrote:

HAHAHA 109 went DOWN in FLAMES
Put that in YOUR pipe and SUCK it

Well at least allot of the Marxist Liberals Democrap Politicians in Arizona have joined the ranks of the unemployed LOL

[Vance1]

Love 2 Hunt wrote:

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Well at least allot of the Marxist Liberals Democrap Politicians in Arizona have joined the ranks of the unemployed LOL

AMEN!

[horsepuckey]

Love 2 Hunt wrote:

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Well at least allot of the Marxist Liberals Democrap Politicians in Arizona have joined the ranks of the unemployed LOL

WAAAAH WAAAH WAAAH live with failure ya idiot

[marco polo]

horsepuckey wrote:

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WAAAAH WAAAH WAAAH live with failure ya idiot

go fucky ur pucky and get off my threads.

[marco polo]

isn't it illegal alien hunting season yet? them makes some good eatings. dip them in some batter and serve them up hot with a nice box of blush wine.

[Megyn]

Info Junkie wrote:

I am a proud liberal
(bash all you want cause that won't change regardless of what you say, which I ignore if it isn't based on fact, logic, or intelligent thought)
who is NOT against hunting. I'd prefer we hunt all the meat and fish we eat
(no, I'm not a vegetarian just because I am a liberal, I think our incisors are for something beyond leafy greens, among other reasons, like being the top of the food chain)
as opposed to raising meat in huge industrial facilities with poor conditions.
It makes far more sense sustainably speaking to eat, for example, a fish one caught in a lake vs. one that has been flown halfway across the world. Not that any of the lakes in AZ are natural, therefore the fish at one point in time were brought in. But that is besides the point. People want to walk into their local grocery and pick out a package meat and not think about where it came from, how it lived, whatever. Hunting for one's food it efficient, healthier, and gives a person the bigger picture of the cycle of life and food.
Now, hunting for sport? Kinda weird- people dominating nature cause we can, killing for fun. But whatever. I don't see that ceasing as long as this struggle over nature continues. I do hope someday we will view ourselves as a part of nature rather than in competition with it and in control of it. We can never be in full control. I have yet to see a man stop a tornado, earthquake, volcano.
Regarding this bill- I agree people should have the right to make the laws regarding wildlife in this state, AS LONG AS the majority is being intelligent about controlling wildlife populations. Intelligent being the operative word. I'll believe it when I see it. Ha!

No one is going to try to change you. It is common knowledge that there is no cure for stupidity.