Kingdom Hall wins approval

Kingdom Hall wins approval

There are 136 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 27, 2009, titled Kingdom Hall wins approval. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

In a meeting filled with residents, city council members on Tuesday voted narrowly in favor of a plan to build a Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall on old pastureland at the end of a neighborhood road.

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Since: Feb 09

Kansas City, MO

#138 May 31, 2010
kfire wrote:
That date is important only because the generation from that date will not die off.
Where are you getting this information? Something of that magnitude should be clearly found in the Bible with no guesswork. Where is the 1914 date found in holy scripture?
kfire wrote:
We have little time left to warn those seeking the truth.
Exactly how do you know this? Where does the Bible specifically say that?
kfire wrote:
It isn't any sort of date for rapture or anything like that.The word rapture isn't even in the bible by the way.I'm worried about.
Neither are the words Disfellowship, Organization or Governing Body. So why do you teach them?
kfire wrote:
The day of Jehovah's judgment(Armageddon) 1914 is the warning of the short time that is left in this system of things.
Neither is the word Armageddon found in the Bible. Check your Watchtower CD. It can't be found in the holy scripture anywhere.

However, you can find the word Har-magedon. Har means mount or mountain. Magedon refers to Megiddo the name of a mountain. This is a physical location where many battles were decided. It is also the site where Revelation says that the kings of the earth gathered to make war against God.

As you can imagine, such a literal war against God by men would be impossible. Men can't even see God or the angels let alone try to fight them. So it must mean something else.

The historian Josephus does indicate that this event actually took place in the first century in the same generation Jesus promised to return in.

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Since: Feb 09

Kansas City, MO

#139 May 31, 2010
kfire wrote:
<quoted text>1975 Has no significance. I don't know where that comes from.
Neither does 1914 have any significance. Both dates were manufactured by the leadership of the Watchtower Society. Neither are divinely inspired.
kfire wrote:
It was written that when Christ came back in spirit things would not immediately get better but disruptive to the spirit of the world....Ironically ww1 started this very year..And the world has worsened and become ever exceedingly more destructive and violent in the most extreme ways possible.A new world order is at hand, and it lies in the hands of Satan himself.We have little time.This is what that date means to me.
All these dates originate from the flawed reasoning and foolish expectations of men.

Even the Watchtower admits that men like CT Russell and JF Rutherford were so eager for the end o this world to come that they were absolutely certain that the end was at hand. What they believed and taught sounded good and reasonable but it was still very wrong.

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Since: Feb 09

Zebulon, NC

#142 Jun 3, 2010
This board is being plagued by an harassing demon.

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Charlotte, NC

#144 Jun 4, 2010
This demon can only be expelled through prayer.
RANDOM MAN

Southfield, MI

#145 Aug 23, 2013
suzieq wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT A CULT .
Fact#1 People who become Jehovah's Witnesses STUDY
from the BIBLE which is the written word of Jehovah God
Psalms 83:18
Fact#2 Jehovah's Witnesses LIVE their lives ACCORDING to BIBLE principles.
Fact#3 All literature from the WTBS is based on Scriptures from the BIBLE
Fact#4 So if all other religions say they believe in the BIBLE then I guess they all must be CULTS.
Get your facts straight before you slander Jehovah's Witnesses and spew out your unbased lies and venom.
actually all religions are cults basically
look up the definition of religion and then look up the definition of cult
both the same in essence
Aprinciple

Buffalo, WY

#146 Oct 31, 2014
But note how defending your faith gets you a down-vote. Very sad.
God the son

Beijing, China

#147 Oct 31, 2014
Aprinciple wrote:
But note how defending your faith gets you a down-vote. Very sad.
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in the name of God Almighty
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That day you post on my forum
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You do not
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You are committing
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For every post
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A curse is going to come upon you
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True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#148 Nov 4, 2014
Jehovah's witnesses go door to door to help people learn their Bible. We do not judge anyone, nor do we not help someone in need, if we can.

Jealousy of this preaching work, has caused confusion by False Christian religions, because they know they should be doing this work, as Jesus taught, warning people and telling people the wonderful future they can have by obeying the Law of Christ, and how to survive the end of this world.

Fighters against the will of God, those who deliberately try to stop people from learning the good news are already dead, even tho they live, according to Jesus.

Matt. 8: 21 Then another of the disciples said to him:“Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.” 22 Jesus said to him:“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.”

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#149 Nov 4, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses go door to door to help people learn their Bible. We do not judge anyone, nor do we not help someone in need, if we can.
Jealousy of this preaching work, has caused confusion by False Christian religions, because they know they should be doing this work, as Jesus taught, warning people and telling people the wonderful future they can have by obeying the Law of Christ, and how to survive the end of this world.
Fighters against the will of God, those who deliberately try to stop people from learning the good news are already dead, even tho they live, according to Jesus.
Matt. 8: 21 Then another of the disciples said to him:“Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.” 22 Jesus said to him:“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.”
This is where you are being lied to by the GB aka F&DS, I was shocked when I found out that the church I attend tells us to go out and tell all we meet about the gospel of Jesus Christ. Not door to door, but in the stores, at the bank, at the library, at the doctors office, at the hospital, every where we go. THe preaching work is being done by other religions, just not door to door like witnesses do. But we are getting the word out there, even on forums like this. People are starting to take note of how JWs will lie to them to get them into their KH. Word of mouth is spreading like wild fire about how you are love bombed until you are inside, then it stops.
The only fighters against the will of God are the witnesses and the GB aka F&DS who puts themselves in Jesus place. SO according to you, all JWs are already dead.

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Since: Oct 10

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#150 Nov 4, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses go door to door to help people learn their Bible. We do not judge anyone, nor do we not help someone in need, if we can.
Jealousy of this preaching work, has caused confusion by False Christian religions, because they know they should be doing this work, as Jesus taught, warning people and telling people the wonderful future they can have by obeying the Law of Christ, and how to survive the end of this world.
Fighters against the will of God, those who deliberately try to stop people from learning the good news are already dead, even tho they live, according to Jesus.
Matt. 8: 21 Then another of the disciples said to him:“Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.” 22 Jesus said to him:“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.”
your dead if you don't believe that Christ is the Son of God and preach this good news of Salvation, that is the primary message of the bible the kingdom is rarely mentioned no point in believing in fluffy bunnies and patting lions if one hasn't put faith in the Son.

JW main reason for going door to door is to recruit people into their organization for salvation without being part of that org as a baptised JW then you are going to die, so how long do you think it will take Jw to preach to all the nations the billions on earth yet to here your kingdom message, and the end is just around the corner, in the mean time, the WT is building bigger and more luxurious bethels and is spending millions on décor swimming pools, gyms and tennis courts for those that live there, while they solicit money by pledges of the flock, and pay out millions unbeknown to b/s to pay victims of child sexual abuse.
jace

Alexandria, VA

#151 Nov 4, 2014
A Principle wrote:
Such venom! I find it interesting that there are so many vile attacks on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group and as individuals. Those attacking (and they know who they are) have to resort to twisting facts and to slander; no lie is too ridiculous for them to repeat. But then when Jehovah's Witnesses speak out to defend themselves, they are somehow guilty of "attacking" or being in "a defense posture". I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people. So who are the real attack dogs? I seems obvious.
An IGNORANT POSTER.(Without knowledge ) said

"I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people. So who are the real attack dogs?"

Instead the Watchtower went out and got THEIR OWN PRESSES and for over 100 yrs they print stories about other folks religions

"Satan's organization sails under the high-sounding name of "Christendom". It boasts of a membership of over 500,000,000 persons. "

Watchtower 1930 Oct 1 p.301

“KeepProclaiming Christ Death ”

Since: Dec 09

Portage, MI

#152 Nov 4, 2014
The Watchtower has dogged the Catholics but the Catholic Church has been responsible for the preservation of the largest Christian religious antiquities of any religion that I am aware of. They preserved the writings of first century Christian and other related artifacts. They have contributed much.

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Since: Oct 10

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#153 Nov 4, 2014
kfire wrote:
<quoted text>If any bible left out any words it was the kjv of the bible which removed Jehovah's name from the bible almost completely.The reason being that he thought the name was too sacred....Which I think is ridiculous because Jehovah wants us to know his name and proclaim his news worldwide.Not hide it from the world as the kjb seems to do.
lol and the GB of the WT org added the name over 200 times where was not found in the manuscripts, even where Christ did not quote the Hebrew. the NWT is a bible for JW, a JW bible and full changes to suit the doctrines of JW, not one reputable scholar has anything good to say about the NWT, in fact the GB misquoted quite a few scholars just to make it look as if they supported their interpretation of Gods holy word.

Now who is being deceitful, why would God use liars as his channel liars that deliberately changed his word for their own agenda and you have the hide to criticize others.

Since: Jun 13

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#154 Nov 5, 2014
matt wrote:
<quoted text> I'm sorry but I have to reply to you because your fact are incorrect about Jeovah"s Witnesses.
Fact number 1. Jehovah's Witnesses do volunteer to
help others,even though they are not of the same faith.
They helped many during 911, also earthquakes, floods,
and other natural disasters.
Fact number 2. Because of Jehovah's Witnesses,doctors
more than ever are doing more and more bloodless surgery,because number 1 patients heal much faster.
Number 2 they don't contract aids or hepatitis from
tainted blood. Dr.Denton Cooley out of Texas is just one
cardiologist that does many open heart surgeries without blood.If you have a good surgeon he will know
also how to operate without the use of blood.
Fact number 3. Jehovah's Witnesses are very honest
people and hard working and do not take from the state
and welfare.Even though they spend many hours trying to help people come to an accurate knowledge of the Bible.
Thank you for you time.
Fact no. 1....in times of natural disasters, jw's help themselves and their own brothers and sisters first, by passing anyone else who is not a jw. During times of calm, jw's do not run any charities feeding or even helping any one who is a non jw. Even help to fellow jw's is scarce. When a natural disaster happens when jw's help someone fix up their home, if they are a jw, that jw is expected to file and insurance claim and when they get the check from the insurance company they are to send it to bethel.

Fact no. 2.....Dr Cooley is not a jw, bloodless surgeries were already being experimented on before the jw's, you don't need a blood transfusion to contract aids or hepatitis, and fact....blood transfusions have saved more lives than non blood transfusions.

Fact no 3......Jehovahs witnesses are not the only religion to be honest and hard working. JW's will live on welfare, will take food stamps, even if they don't need to, myself and many others have witnessed this. I've even been the victim of identity theft due to a jw trying to get welfare checks. And you spend many hours knocking on doors because your afraid Jehovah is going to kill you if you don't, so you don't do it for caring about anyone.

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Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#155 Nov 5, 2014
Yes you can request assistance. However, not a single penny will come your way..

The Watchtower organization is not in the business of helping people. They are in the business of growing their own organization.
Need money for food, or clothing? Need a loan to help pay your rent? Need a place to stay if you are homeless? Better turn to the "evil" worldly organizations such as the red cross, because the Watchtower society won't drop a dime to help you.

Now, regarding the "disaster assistance":
This like many other things, is a smoke screen. First the organization only helps members ( maybe some very rare exceptions). Second, this help is usually made up of re-building structures, using free labor or course. Third, it is expected that home owners which are helped rebuild by the society, will donate the insurance money to the organization ( which is tied to the fact of why they almost always only help current members).
So at the end of the day, the Watchtower society rebuilds homes using free labor for a fraction of the real value of the home, then collects market value for it from the insurance money... Quite a racket.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
gjest

Lake Villa, IL

#156 Jan 24, 2015
This Branch is depicted in Van Goghs "The Road Menders"

Jeremiah 33:15 (KJV) In those days, and at that time, will I cause the BRANCH of righteousness to grow up to David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.
16 (KJV) In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell in safety: and this [is the name] by which she shall be called, Yahweh our righteousness.

Isaiah 11:1-AV And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a BRANCH shall grow out of his roots:
2 (KJV) And the spirit of Yahweh shall rest upon him,(see John 1:32) the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel andmight, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Yahweh;
3 (KJV) And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of Yahweh: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 (KJV) But with righteousness shall he judge the poor,and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 (KJV) And righteousness shall be the belt of his loins,and faithfulness the belt of his reins.
Jeremiah 23:2-AV Therefore thus saith Yahweh Elohim of Israel against the shepherds that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith Yahweh.
3 (KJV) And I will gather the remnant of my flock from all countries where I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 (KJV) And I will set shepherds over them who shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith Yahweh.
5 (KJV) Behold, the days come, saith Yahweh, that I will raise to David a righteous BRANCH, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice upon theearth.
6 (KJV) In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israelshall dwell in safety: and this [is] his name by which he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 (KJV) Therefore, behold, the days come, saith Yahweh, that they shall no more say, Yahweh liveth, who brough tthe children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 (KJV) But, Yahweh liveth, who brought and who led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries where I have driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.

Zechariah 3:8-AV Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they [are] men wondered at:for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.

Zechariah 6:12 (KJV) And speak to him, saying, Thus speaketh Yahweh of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of Yahweh:

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