Kingdom Hall wins approval

Kingdom Hall wins approval

There are 136 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 27, 2009, titled Kingdom Hall wins approval. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

In a meeting filled with residents, city council members on Tuesday voted narrowly in favor of a plan to build a Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall on old pastureland at the end of a neighborhood road.

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Mark S

AOL

#4 May 28, 2009
Jehovah's Witnesses can do a quick build Kingdom Hall in three days, but would they do a Habitat for Humanity home to help a poor non-JW family? NO, they would not.

Would they build a soup kitchen or homeless shelter using some of the billion dollar wealth of the Watchtower society? No they would not.

Would they allow a food drive for a food bank at their kingdom hall to help feed the hungry?No, they would not.

Would they do a blood drive to replace all the blood that JW's use for blood fractions to treat serious diseases? No,they would not.

JW's take all the money from social and state services that they can out of the community, but they refuse to put anything back. Everybody knows this and that is why JW's get no respect.
geh

Bethpage, NY

#6 May 28, 2009
See how inobtrusive your presence in the neighborhood is when I come to picket in front of your new Kingdom Hall with sandwich boards about harboring child molesters and failed prophecies.
geh

Bethpage, NY

#7 May 28, 2009
By the way, I live in Mount Dora, not Bethesda, MD. Clermont is a mere 20 miles from me.
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#8 May 28, 2009
yes go and picket. let them know.. and those buildings are so cold. they will create problems.. tell them about this forum and point out the wanna be's and the ones who claim to be real jws..

“Watchtower Whistle-Blower”

Level 1

Since: Dec 06

Bangor Maine USA

#9 May 28, 2009
The Jehovah's Witnesses have settled lawsuits alleging church policies protected pedophile men who sexually abused children for many years.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917798/ NBC news

The victims were required to sign gag orders to prevent them from saying anything about the money or more importantly about their abusers.
Yet more importantly the court documents that were part of the five year legal battle shows exactly what despicable sinks of debauchery that supposed leaders and elders of Jehovah's Witnesses will go to in order to protect pedophiles.
The written record is incriminating and shows the cover up, protection and enabling of Jehovah's Witness child molesters around the world.

Learn more
http://www.exjws.net/sexabuse/index.htm

AuroraMom

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#10 May 28, 2009
Mark S wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses can do a quick build Kingdom Hall in three days, but would they do a Habitat for Humanity home to help a poor non-JW family? NO, they would not.
Would they build a soup kitchen or homeless shelter using some of the billion dollar wealth of the Watchtower society? No they would not.
Would they allow a food drive for a food bank at their kingdom hall to help feed the hungry?No, they would not.
Would they do a blood drive to replace all the blood that JW's use for blood fractions to treat serious diseases? No,they would not.
JW's take all the money from social and state services that they can out of the community, but they refuse to put anything back. Everybody knows this and that is why JW's get no respect.
Excellent point, and so true!
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#11 May 28, 2009
they cannot associate with non jws.. they are all apostates.. sad..
Kubanazo

Lake Worth, FL

#12 May 28, 2009
Recently there were reports in some media and news outlets about Jehovah's Witnesses being the fastest growing denomination, makes me wonder how Danny Haszard came up with the idea about a religion in decline. Year in year out Danny Haszard and others like him make these posts about a religion in decline, yet year in year out there are new kingdom halls being built. The fact is that a religion in decline cannot maintain empty buldings, and obviously if no one was going to attend then the concern about increased traffic would be moot.
The fact of the matter is that wherever a Kingdom Hall is built the community tends to improve. Bushy empty lots give way to a beautiful well lighted building with constant activity, a place that criminals tend to stay far away from. Because of this trend many communities worldwide are more than willing to have a JW building in the area.
Jehovah's Witnesses cannot read people's hearts, and in any organization you can expect a bad egg to spring up every now and then. Jehovah's Witnesses take a firm stand against wrongdoing by expelling unrepentant wrongdoers and by informing local authorities if the crime and the evidence available allows them to do so.
JWs are unique in that any member who is found guilty of child molestation can never ever be appointed to any special post, unlike some religions that simply transfer them from one parish to another.
http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm
DJArmstrong

Mantua, NJ

#13 May 28, 2009
Bravo Kubanazo! I actually thought that this was a referendum on a building not a chance for a bunch of spammers to trash someone's religious beliefs. BTW if you are interested in a balanced approach to the misleading and factually innaccurate info provided here about JW's by danny you should google silentlambsexposed.blogspot.com
Alot of interesting info there.
old timer

AOL

#14 May 29, 2009
The Watchtower cult really fast quickie

Came into existence to proclaim Jesus second coming in 1914 which would be the …..well second coming so the end of the world right.

Nothing happened in 1914 except WW1 and of course they had/have a whole spin on how Jesus REALLY DID return in 1914 but invisibly just like in "emperor’s new clothes".
NOW the Watchtower cult cooked up the ‘generations’ thingy saying that the end of the world is still gonna come but will happen in a your/mine ‘generation’ lifetime.

NOW all devout followers work their asses off to door knock and warn the wicked save the meek and ‘contribute all your valuable things to ’Jehovah’ aka his ‘earthly organization’ the Watchtower Society corporation.

NOW advance to the 21st century 2009 and most of the old timers who gave everything to the Watchtower corporation including their retirement funds are dead and cannot speak out about their dreams dashed and their assets plundered.

2009 the obnoxious watchower is in a defense posture attacking anyone who speaks out and the cult is just loaded with bogus shills for their snake oil.
NO WATCHTOWER 'NEW ORDER'.
Grow old and die all JW’s just like us non believers bye bye

http://www.jwfiles.com/

Since: May 09

USA

#15 May 29, 2009
Such venom! I find it interesting that there are so many vile attacks on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group and as individuals. Those attacking (and they know who they are) have to resort to twisting facts and to slander; no lie is too ridiculous for them to repeat. But then when Jehovah's Witnesses speak out to defend themselves, they are somehow guilty of "attacking" or being in "a defense posture". I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people. So who are the real attack dogs? I seems obvious.
UNchained

Columbia, TN

#16 May 30, 2009
A Principle wrote:
I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people.
They post those news stories on this board and tell everyone how different they are from all the other Christians who they don't consider to be Christians.

According to JW's, they are the only real Christians.

Every other Christian is really a satan worshiper according to the JW's spokesman, the Watchtowrer magazine.

Every one on earth knows how JW's feel about other Christians just by reading a few Watchtower magazines.

And you are surprised that no one wants one of their kingdom halls in their backyard?

That would be like inviting the North Korean government into their backyard to conduct a feasibility test with a little homemade firecracker.

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AuroraMom

Since: Sep 07

Warrenville, IL

#17 May 30, 2009
A Principle wrote:
Such venom! I find it interesting that there are so many vile attacks on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group and as individuals. Those attacking (and they know who they are) have to resort to twisting facts and to slander; no lie is too ridiculous for them to repeat. But then when Jehovah's Witnesses speak out to defend themselves, they are somehow guilty of "attacking" or being in "a defense posture". I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people. So who are the real attack dogs? I seems obvious.
You seem to have the WTBTS and the public confused.
You are so used to the truth being twisted and believing lies that you are understandably mixed up.
Jehovah's Witnesses put up cult buildings, big deal.
They do nothing charitable for their own members nor do they do charitable works at all for those who are hungry, poor etc.
Why does the truth bother YOU so much?
Maybe time to get out of the cult.
Kubanazo

Lake Worth, FL

#18 May 30, 2009
Jesus did say that when we do fine works we shouldn't blow our horn and call attention to our acts, I refuse to question his words.
BTW, although Jesus worked miracles what did they call him? "Teacher", obviously he was known more for teaching than working miracles. Hebrews 4:12 says - "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart."
By teaching people solid principles that they can live by, they learn to be self sufficient and to help themselves rather than waiting on a handout. As the saying goes:'Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.'
Mardana

Sacramento, CA

#19 May 30, 2009
Kubanazo wrote:
Jesus did say that when we do fine works we shouldn't blow our horn and call attention to our acts, I refuse to question his words.
BTW, although Jesus worked miracles what did they call him? "Teacher", obviously he was known more for teaching than working miracles. Hebrews 4:12 says - "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart."
By teaching people solid principles that they can live by, they learn to be self sufficient and to help themselves rather than waiting on a handout. As the saying goes:'Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.'
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Surely you weren't talking about the WTS when you posted the following :

You wrote :
"Jesus did say that when we do fine works we shouldn't blow our horn and call attention to our acts"
==========
The WTS is WELL KNOWN for boasting about their Organization and "blowing their horn and calling attention to their acts".

Even those rare times when they do something that might be charitable for their members, they print articles about it in their magazines ["blow that horn"] to call attention to what they may have done.

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knowaboutjwitnes ses

Whittier, CA

#20 May 31, 2009
Found this Blog and decided to read some of the posts.
Many many years ago, my mother was unfortunatley involved with the Witnesses. As far back as I can remember in my childhood, I remember the times I would hear 'The World is Coming to an end, Armeggedon is Coming - scared me to death, I was just a little child-I got slapped for that Numerous times. As time went on, I got a better sense of what was going on-All these Elders and Overseers running their Kingdon Hall on weekday evenings were running around town at other times and they sure were not selling those 5 cent at the time Awakes or Watchtowers door to door. I still remember the story about ONLY a 144,000 special witnesses would rule in Heaven-the only ones who got to drink from that 'special cup' some of us know as communion-Not everyone got that drink-only 'the very special ones'. Lots of time has elapsed, lots of JW's have passed, if only 144,000 are that special, where do those other nice, well meaning, gullible people who walked and knocked most of their JW lives go? These people prey on the gullible and of course the ones who are yearning for something. Sad situation-It's true, they do not associate with non JW unless they are converting them. When my Catholic father suddenly passed away at home, my mother called one of her JW friends to help her, They would NOT because they do not believe in being around non believers of their faith-everyone else to them is wicked and evil. They even have their own Bible, looks like, reads like, but in fact is NOT, it's changed around to suit their scam. Their book society made sure of that. They do not believe in the American Flag, they do not vote, They will not go to War, they do not pledge to the Flag of the USA, they do not believe in blood transfusions,they don't believe in a lot of things, they are not a part of 'this old corrupted wicked world'. Back in the middle 1960's they didn't even believe in Jesus, not so sure they do now in the 21st century.
matt

Christmas, FL

#22 May 31, 2009
Mark S wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses can do a quick build Kingdom Hall in three days, but would they do a Habitat for Humanity home to help a poor non-JW family? NO, they would not.
Would they build a soup kitchen or homeless shelter using some of the billion dollar wealth of the Watchtower society? No they would not.
Would they allow a food drive for a food bank at their kingdom hall to help feed the hungry?No, they would not.
Would they do a blood drive to replace all the blood that JW's use for blood fractions to treat serious diseases? No,they would not.
JW's take all the money from social and state services that they can out of the community, but they refuse to put anything back. Everybody knows this and that is why JW's get no respect.
I'm sorry but I have to reply to you because your fact are incorrect about Jeovah"s Witnesses.

Fact number 1. Jehovah's Witnesses do volunteer to
help others,even though they are not of the same faith.
They helped many during 911, also earthquakes, floods,
and other natural disasters.
Fact number 2. Because of Jehovah's Witnesses,doctors
more than ever are doing more and more bloodless surgery,because number 1 patients heal much faster.
Number 2 they don't contract aids or hepatitis from
tainted blood. Dr.Denton Cooley out of Texas is just one
cardiologist that does many open heart surgeries without blood.If you have a good surgeon he will know
also how to operate without the use of blood.
Fact number 3. Jehovah's Witnesses are very honest
people and hard working and do not take from the state
and welfare.Even though they spend many hours trying to help people come to an accurate knowledge of the Bible.
Thank you for you time.
matt

Christmas, FL

#23 May 31, 2009
AuroraMom wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to have the WTBTS and the public confused.
You are so used to the truth being twisted and believing lies that you are understandably mixed up.
Jehovah's Witnesses put up cult buildings, big deal.
They do nothing charitable for their own members nor do they do charitable works at all for those who are hungry, poor etc.
Why does the truth bother YOU so much?
Maybe time to get out of the cult.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult. There are over 7 million Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. After a person studies the Bible and comes to a good understanding each indivdual has the right to make up their own mind whether they choose to serve the only true God Jehovah or not. I have to stand up for my faith.
matt

Christmas, FL

#24 May 31, 2009
knowaboutjwitnesses wrote:
Found this Blog and decided to read some of the posts.
Many many years ago, my mother was unfortunatley involved with the Witnesses. As far back as I can remember in my childhood, I remember the times I would hear 'The World is Coming to an end, Armeggedon is Coming - scared me to death, I was just a little child-I got slapped for that Numerous times. As time went on, I got a better sense of what was going on-All these Elders and Overseers running their Kingdon Hall on weekday evenings were running around town at other times and they sure were not selling those 5 cent at the time Awakes or Watchtowers door to door. I still remember the story about ONLY a 144,000 special witnesses would rule in Heaven-the only ones who got to drink from that 'special cup' some of us know as communion-Not everyone got that drink-only 'the very special ones'. Lots of time has elapsed, lots of JW's have passed, if only 144,000 are that special, where do those other nice, well meaning, gullible people who walked and knocked most of their JW lives go? These people prey on the gullible and of course the ones who are yearning for something. Sad situation-It's true, they do not associate with non JW unless they are converting them. When my Catholic father suddenly passed away at home, my mother called one of her JW friends to help her, They would NOT because they do not believe in being around non believers of their faith-everyone else to them is wicked and evil. They even have their own Bible, looks like, reads like, but in fact is NOT, it's changed around to suit their scam. Their book society made sure of that. They do not believe in the American Flag, they do not vote, They will not go to War, they do not pledge to the Flag of the USA, they do not believe in blood transfusions,they don't believe in a lot of things, they are not a part of 'this old corrupted wicked world'. Back in the middle 1960's they didn't even believe in Jesus, not so sure they do now in the 21st century.
I would like to reply to your post.
The world is not coming to and end ,this wicked system of things is coming to and end soon Read Revelation 21:3,4,5. And No we don't have our own Bible,we simply use the New World Translation,which is an easier way to understand with modern english.
No we Do not salute the flag as Jesus Christ was no part of this world and do not get involved in politics,because
we are putting our trust in Jehovah God not man to solve the problems of the world. Why are we having so
many problems now because man can solve them. 1 Cor,10:14 Flee from idolatry, 1John 5:21 Little children,guard youselves from idols. Please look it up in your version of the Bible. Rev:12:12 On this account be glad,you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea because the Devil has come down to you having great anger,knowing he has a short period of time. God will soon destroy Satan who at one time was a perfect angel,because he wants power over everyone .Jehovah God is the Supreme being over all the earth.

Since: May 09

Woodstock, IL

#25 May 31, 2009
Hi A Principal,
A Principle wrote:
Such venom! I find it interesting that there are so many vile attacks on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group and as individuals. Those attacking (and they know who they are) have to resort to twisting facts and to slander; no lie is too ridiculous for them to repeat. But then when Jehovah's Witnesses speak out to defend themselves, they are somehow guilty of "attacking" or being in "a defense posture". I don't think it is Jehovah's Witnesses who go to news stories about Catholics, Baptists, Jews, etc. to post ugly attacks on entire groups of people. So who are the real attack dogs? I seems obvious.
Please understand that most of these people are ex-JWs, so they have had years and years of experience reading about vile attacks on religious organizations in the WTBTS publications. I personally think these ex-JWs have learned to include pertinant facts to back up the vile accusations, unlike the WTBTS.

So please be understanding, because most of this expertese did come from WTBTS training.

Peace,
Bob

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