Call for arrest of watch captain who ...

Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29780 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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spocko

Oakland, CA

#32224 Jul 28, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Wrong again Rambler. Two different laws, two different statutes. The castle doctrine pertains to a person's home. It is based on old English law and has been law long before it was written down as such.
The SYG law is totally different and was only enacted a few years ago. The bill was written by the then head of the NRA and passed without fanfare because the legislatures had been paid to vote for it.
Stand your ground law protects criminals! Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law should be titled the Criminals Relief Act. When the controversial law was enacted in 2005, law enforcement officials warned it would be invoked by people prone to violence and mayhem. Seven years later, it's clear, those fears have been realized. Gang members, drug dealers, domestic abusers and other criminals have walked away from killings thanks to "stand your ground," and it's clearer than ever that the law should be repealed. Lawmakers who suggest a tweak can fix the problems are putting politics over sound public policy and the safety of Floridians.
Analysis of more than 100 fatal "stand your ground" cases by Tampa Bay Times staff writers have found that nearly 60 percent of people claiming the self-defense legal protection had been previously arrested, and one in three were accused of a violent crime. All told, 119 people who invoked "stand your ground" after killing someone had been arrested 327 times for criminal activities.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32225 Jul 28, 2013
I wonder if supporters of the Stand Your Ground law want it to extend to lawful street enforcement by Police Officers?

I mean really, they put their lives on the line every day.....what makes an ordinary citizen more privileged than police officers in their right to protect themselves? Why is it not legal for police to shoot to kill first and ask questions later if they have cause to prevent a physical attack from a person on the street who looks like that's what they're thinking about?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32226 Jul 28, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Analysis of more than 100 fatal "stand your ground" cases by Tampa Bay Times staff writers have found that nearly 60 percent of people claiming the self-defense legal protection had been previously arrested, and one in three were accused of a violent crime. All told, 119 people who invoked "stand your ground" after killing someone had been arrested 327 times for criminal activities.
Yes, I suppose nearly 200 is "more than 100".
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/cri...

"The number of cases is increasing, largely because defense attorneys are using "stand your ground" in ways state legislators never envisioned. The defense has been invoked in dozens of cases with minor or no injuries. It has also been used by a self-described "vampire" in Pinellas County, a Miami man arrested with a single marijuana cigarette, a Fort Myers homeowner who shot a bear and a West Palm Beach jogger who beat a Jack Russell terrier."
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32227 Jul 28, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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we heard you the first time.
Since then their website has been crashed.
Is it merely a coincidence that $12,000 was raised to send the Rev and crew to Chichen Itza last December, to save the world from doomsay and something about a feathered serpent, which didn't happen because he "stood down"......and the same amount,$12,000, was also apparently raised by this Ohio gun group to protect GZ?

Or is there a trail?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32229 Jul 28, 2013
"You have seen nothing yet. What you have seen is the tip of the iceberg… RG is a Militia Boy, Racist, Demeans women and a total whack job… I will have him on the porno soon."
- Dominic Casey, PI files released
http://www.bloggernews.net/122445

Tired of Silly
Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#32230 Jul 28, 2013
Rambler wrote:
I wonder if supporters of the Stand Your Ground law want it to extend to lawful street enforcement by Police Officers?
I mean really, they put their lives on the line every day.....what makes an ordinary citizen more privileged than police officers in their right to protect themselves? Why is it not legal for police to shoot to kill first and ask questions later if they have cause to prevent a physical attack from a person on the street who looks like that's what they're thinking about?
Anyone with a brain would want police officers to be able to protect themselves against any animal who makes a threat to them. Among other benefits, the number of Trayvons would be drastically reduced.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32231 Jul 28, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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Anyone with a brain would want police officers to be able to protect themselves against any animal who makes a threat to them. Among other benefits, the number of Trayvons would be drastically reduced.
Really?

Police shoot dog: Ten days later, outrage still swamps California city
By Sandy Mazza, Los Angeles News Group
POSTED: 07/10/2013 09:11:10 AM PDT | UPDATED: 18 DAYS AGO

The regularly scheduled Hawthorne City Council meeting was canceled Tuesday night because the city's website remained offline, a full week after it initially crashed from the large volume of visitors. Thousands of people from around the world sought to express their opinion on the officer's decision to shoot a Rottweiler as it lunged toward him during the June 30 arrest of the dog's owner.

The shooting was caught on camera and the video went viral as millions of people worldwide watched it online and reacted to the violence. The council meeting was canceled because the agenda and a video of the proceedings could not be posted online.

<snip>

Much of the public response involved angry threats against city officials and police officers. Three officers and their families have been temporarily moved out of their homes and given 24-hour protection because of death threats.

An online petition seeking prosecution of the officer who shot the 2-year-old dog named Max had more than 98,000 supporters by late Tuesday. It claims that Max's owner, Leon Rosby, was illegally arrested and that the officer shot the dog unjustly.

The department reported receiving 10,000 emails on the issue.

"I just tried calling these cowardly pricks to ask what they intend to do about the dogslayer," one person wrote on the department's Facebook Web page. "They hung up on me. Go figure. Keep calling until the man is fired."

Mayor Danny Juarez said his family unplugged its home phone at night because of the incessant calls and threats.

"My phone is burning up, it's unbelievable," Juarez said. "My family is overwhelmed. They're tired of this. But people keep calling. We're getting calls at 3 a.m. and they just want to vent on the phone."

Juarez has reserved comment on the shooting until a police investigation into the matter is completed.

Meanwhile, police officials released a second video of the lead-up to the shooting that shows Rosby arguing with officers, and one officer trying to take Max's leash before the dog lunges and he shoots.

Rosby is shown parking and getting out of a black car with Max, whom he held close to him by a leash as he confronted officers in the midst of an operation involving an armed robbery suspect who was barricaded inside a home near 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue.

As an officer using a loudspeaker tells the robbery suspect to come out of the house, Rosby walks up to the scene while music is playing loudly in his parked car. An officer tells him to move his car away.

"My car is OK," Rosby responds. "And I can stay here and watch. I'm gonna stay here and watch. You wanna take me? OK. For what? Y'all be breaking the law."

The video cuts to officers patting down Rosby after he is handcuffed. Rosby had put Max in his car, but the dog jumps through an open window and approaches officers, barking.

"Get in the car," Rosby yells at Max. "Do not shoot my dog! Somebody get my dog!"

An officer reaches out a hand to attempt to take Max's leash before the dog lunged at the officer, who then shot him four times.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_23...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32232 Jul 28, 2013
Case involving police officer who shot, killed man's dog in LaGrange, Mo., settled

ST. LOUIS • A federal case involving a LaGrange, Mo., police officer who fatally shot a man's dog has settled in the plaintiff's favor for $50,000, the man's attorney said.

The case was set for trial early next week and was settled last month.

In a suit filed in January 2012 in federal court in St. Louis, Marcus Mays of LaGrange alleges a LaGrange police officer illegally seized his property — an 18-month-old American bulldog named Cammie — by shooting and killing it in March 2010. LaGrange is in Lewis County, about 145 miles northwest of St. Louis.

Mays' attorneys argued that the police officer's job was to capture the animal, not kill it, and that lethal force was unreasonable. They also accused the city of LaGrange of failing to train Officer Doug Howell in how to safely capture animals.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-...

*******

Missouri has a Stand Your Ground law. It seems rather silly that a Police Officer cannot legally Stand His Ground against an animal and instead is expected to take it into custody.
kentuckywoman

Louisville, KY

#32233 Jul 28, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> After I let a terrorist with WMD's pass by and give a loud thank you to.
You seeing this crap, NSA.....hello??
spocko

Oakland, CA

#32234 Jul 28, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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Anyone with a brain
That would ovioiusly exclude you :-/
Tired of Silly wrote:
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would want police officers to be able to protect themselves against any animal who makes a threat to them. Among other benefits, the number of Trayvons would be drastically reduced.
hey marce

Chula Vista, CA

#32236 Jul 28, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
Police shoot dog: Ten days later, outrage still swamps California city
By Sandy Mazza, Los Angeles News Group
POSTED: 07/10/2013 09:11:10 AM PDT | UPDATED: 18 DAYS AGO
The regularly scheduled Hawthorne City Council meeting was canceled Tuesday night because the city's website remained offline, a full week after it initially crashed from the large volume of visitors. Thousands of people from around the world sought to express their opinion on the officer's decision to shoot a Rottweiler as it lunged toward him during the June 30 arrest of the dog's owner.
The shooting was caught on camera and the video went viral as millions of people worldwide watched it online and reacted to the violence. The council meeting was canceled because the agenda and a video of the proceedings could not be posted online.
<snip>
Much of the public response involved angry threats against city officials and police officers. Three officers and their families have been temporarily moved out of their homes and given 24-hour protection because of death threats.
An online petition seeking prosecution of the officer who shot the 2-year-old dog named Max had more than 98,000 supporters by late Tuesday. It claims that Max's owner, Leon Rosby, was illegally arrested and that the officer shot the dog unjustly.
The department reported receiving 10,000 emails on the issue.
"I just tried calling these cowardly pricks to ask what they intend to do about the dogslayer," one person wrote on the department's Facebook Web page. "They hung up on me. Go figure. Keep calling until the man is fired."
Mayor Danny Juarez said his family unplugged its home phone at night because of the incessant calls and threats.
"My phone is burning up, it's unbelievable," Juarez said. "My family is overwhelmed. They're tired of this. But people keep calling. We're getting calls at 3 a.m. and they just want to vent on the phone."
Juarez has reserved comment on the shooting until a police investigation into the matter is completed.
Meanwhile, police officials released a second video of the lead-up to the shooting that shows Rosby arguing with officers, and one officer trying to take Max's leash before the dog lunges and he shoots.
Rosby is shown parking and getting out of a black car with Max, whom he held close to him by a leash as he confronted officers in the midst of an operation involving an armed robbery suspect who was barricaded inside a home near 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue.
As an officer using a loudspeaker tells the robbery suspect to come out of the house, Rosby walks up to the scene while music is playing loudly in his parked car. An officer tells him to move his car away.
"My car is OK," Rosby responds. "And I can stay here and watch. I'm gonna stay here and watch. You wanna take me? OK. For what? Y'all be breaking the law."
The video cuts to officers patting down Rosby after he is handcuffed. Rosby had put Max in his car, but the dog jumps through an open window and approaches officers, barking.
"Get in the car," Rosby yells at Max. "Do not shoot my dog! Somebody get my dog!"
An officer reaches out a hand to attempt to take Max's leash before the dog lunged at the officer, who then shot him four times.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_23...
Keep posting old news. You know nothing about this. Another video shot from another angle shows the Rottweiler clearly lunging for the officer. The officer had tried to befriend the dog, but the dog wasn't having it.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#32237 Jul 28, 2013
hey marce wrote:
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Keep posting old news. You know nothing about this. Another video shot from another angle shows the Rottweiler clearly lunging for the officer. The officer had tried to befriend the dog, but the dog wasn't having it.
Did you think that's what "patting down" meant...officers tried to befriend the dog? Max was the dog in this story not Rosby.

"The video cuts to officers patting down Rosby after he is handcuffed."

Regardless, as usual and your tendency to pick, pick, pick, my point was not all Americans, or those without brains according to Silly, believe that Police Officers have the right to defend themselves by standing their ground against vicious animals.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#32241 Jul 28, 2013
SC Redneck_2 wrote:
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I do no think she has said a word since the trial Although, she could have been on one of those BS HLC programs.
She only has limited immunity for prosecution on malicious prosecution. Now, that is a trial I would enjoy looking forward to the outcome. Zimmerman should be compensated for the injustice that has been done to him Even if it is only the satisfaction of seeing the hateful woman disbarred
What about the three judges who ruled there was probable cause to charge Zimmerman with murder>
Brad

Manchester, CT

#32242 Jul 28, 2013
zazz wrote:
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What about the three judges who ruled there was probable cause to charge Zimmerman with murder>
LOL

What 3 judges,liar?

The prosecution had to shop 3 judges until they found Nelson,a life long liberal,that would even hear the case because ,like the original law enforcement that was removed and replaced with liberal counter parts,were convinced the prosecution didn't have enough probable cause to even support a wrongful death charge,let alone 1st degree murder.

What is it with you Trayvoners that make you think you can waltz into a court of law with no proof to support your accusations,witnesses to the crime or evidence?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#32243 Jul 28, 2013
Brad wrote:
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LOL
What 3 judges,liar?
The prosecution had to shop 3 judges until they found Nelson,a life long liberal,that would even hear the case because ,like the original law enforcement that was removed and replaced with liberal counter parts,were convinced the prosecution didn't have enough probable cause to even support a wrongful death charge,let alone 1st degree murder.
What is it with you Trayvoners that make you think you can waltz into a court of law with no proof to support your accusations,witnesses to the crime or evidence?
Oops, your ignorance is showing. The defense was responsible for the first judge stepping down, and the second judge being removed.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#32247 Jul 29, 2013
zazz wrote:
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What about the three judges who ruled there was probable cause to charge Zimmerman with murder>
They were lied to, in a inflated and deceiving arrest warrant, prepared by Angela Corey....just to get a trial, with not much evidence....do you understand this case?

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#32249 Jul 29, 2013
I shall never forget..."CHILD CAN'T GET SNACKS"...
What a bunch of coconuts

New Enterprise, PA

#32251 Jul 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with,[But] the law couldn't prove it." Juror B29
What does your God have to do with anything? It doesn't.
What a bunch of coconuts

New Enterprise, PA

#32252 Jul 29, 2013
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Trayvon Martin was the result of a broken home and no male guidance, he had resorted to wanting to be a little ganksta and thug. His school record proved he was on a fast track to having no real future and his life would have seemed to be of one in the shadows with his porker girlfriend who nobody would have wanted to be seen with in daylight.
Boo hoo - then he got what he wanted. Too bad & no one cares anymore about the poor and unwanted with nothing but excuses.
Everyone has problems and issues to deal with. Most get over themselves and become good people. Some don't. Those that keep demanding "we" as a Country owe them something should be dealt with. Harshly. Sick and tired of "saving" everyone else while my investments hit rock bottom. Don't care about this kid & others like him. They don't want help - they want to take it from you by any means necessary.

Big tough guy. Too bad.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#32253 Jul 29, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Oops, your ignorance is showing. The defense was responsible for the first judge stepping down, and the second judge being removed.
Still looking for those judges?
They must be hopping around down under.
The entire fiasco was a shameful travesty of justice and Zimmerman should never have been brought to trial.
This administration used him as a pawn to advance their anti 2nd amendment agenda with no regard for anybody or anything but their own selfish narrative.

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