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Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29196 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
See what I mean about getting your facts from HLN? They got it to work later in the late afternoon/evening and we saw the same animation sequence over and over and over again.
Poor Rambler, always on the outskirts, never in the city.
An animation, regardless what cartoon style, is a totally uncouth and thoughtless manner to portray a tragedy involving events leading to the loss of anyone, let alone a 17 year old.....it trivializes death by portraying it in a style most often associated to humour.

Only ghouls like you would think "a cartoon" to be appropriate.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29197 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Just read this posted on my facebook page:
"Trayvon Martin case is now a clear indication of just how bad racism is on the rise in America thanks to this race baiting president we have. We are now receiving several reports of buses loaded with these whimpy Black Panthers enroute to Sanford Florida promising to kill white people and destroy their homes. Now the question is, what will Obama do? Will he encourage it to further his plans for martial law or will he try to be an American for once and put an end to this nonsense!
Well, if it's posted on your Facebook page it must be true!

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29198 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
An animation, regardless what cartoon style, is a totally uncouth and thoughtless manner to portray a tragedy involving events leading to the loss of anyone, let alone a 17 year old.....it trivializes death by portraying it in a style most often associated to humour.
Only ghouls like you would think "a cartoon" to be appropriate.
Didn't even say it was appropriate. Just said you proved once again you have no clue what does or does not happen in this trial, proving anything you say without merit.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29199 Jul 10, 2013
Nancy's shocking predictions in Zimmerman trial
By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 12:17 PM EDT, Mon July 01, 2013

Appearing Monday on CNN’s new morning show New Day, HLN’s Nancy Grace gave some key insight into what the defense and prosecution will look to accomplish in week 2 of the George Zimmerman trial.

She said the defense can’t rest on its laurels after a strong first week.“I predict they will put up witnesses,” she said, adding that Zimmerman's defense team still doesn't have a strong enough case to send it to the jury just yet.

"I also predict we're going to hear inconsistent statements by Zimmerman," she said, alluding to what he told police the night he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

“A lot is riding on whether this jury believes Zimmerman was in fear for his life,” Grace said.“Otherwise, you've got to explain a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”

Get the latest from the day's testimony by following HLN's live blog of the Zimmerman-Martin trial.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/07/01/nancy-g...

********

I can hardly believe I agree with Nancy Grace. None of the defense witnesses have given the jury anything to counter "you've got.........a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29200 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if it's posted on your Facebook page it must be true!
Didn't say it was true, but apparently you think so, which proves you believe anything.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29201 Jul 10, 2013
George Zimmerman trial: Defense can't introduce animation of fight as evidence, judge rules
(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla.-- After extensive arguments from defense attorneys and prosecutors, a central Florida judge has ruled that Trayvon Martin's cellphone texts on fighting and a defense animation depicting the fight between Martin and George Zimmerman won't be introduced as evidence at Zimmerman's trial.

<snip>

The judge says the animation can't be introduced as evidence that can be reviewed by jurors during their deliberations but defense attorneys may be able to use it during closing arguments as a demonstrative exhibit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575930...
******

Whatever, a demonstrative exhibit is not evidence. Intelligent ruling by the dowdy impersonator of a judge.

Daily Docket > Judge Nelson > 2 hour CIVIL Court hearing scheduled this AM.
http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php...

Let's get this show over with and move on to the whining and complaining about the verdict phase!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29202 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't say it was true, but apparently you think so, which proves you believe anything.
Obviously if it's on YOUR Facebook page, then one of YOUR friends posted it.

Don't you trust YOUR friends?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29203 Jul 10, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
<quoted text>
No the jury left, and so did the bald state attorney. After the hearing on the animation, a data recovery specialist came on the stand to talk about the cell phone records. There was much more in that cell phone than has been made public.
There were texts discussing buying a gun, photo's of the gun, talks with several people about three round fights Trayvon participated in, incapacitating someone with a punch to the nose. Apparently Trayvon lost the first round of a fight because he was pinned in the same position he had GZ in. TM had his pictures and texts hidden in an app that changed the file extensions and the language for the app was French.
O'Mara released all that a while back, before the trial. He accused the prosecution of withholding evidence. But, don't think the defense knew the stuff was there for a long time. I guess they are deciding if the jury can see it.

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#29204 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Nancy's shocking predictions in Zimmerman trial
By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 12:17 PM EDT, Mon July 01, 2013
Appearing Monday on CNN’s new morning show New Day, HLN’s Nancy Grace gave some key insight into what the defense and prosecution will look to accomplish in week 2 of the George Zimmerman trial.
She said the defense can’t rest on its laurels after a strong first week.“I predict they will put up witnesses,” she said, adding that Zimmerman's defense team still doesn't have a strong enough case to send it to the jury just yet.
"I also predict we're going to hear inconsistent statements by Zimmerman," she said, alluding to what he told police the night he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.
“A lot is riding on whether this jury believes Zimmerman was in fear for his life,” Grace said.“Otherwise, you've got to explain a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”
Get the latest from the day's testimony by following HLN's live blog of the Zimmerman-Martin trial.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/07/01/nancy-g...
********
I can hardly believe I agree with Nancy Grace. None of the defense witnesses have given the jury anything to counter "you've got.........a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”
It wasn't even the middle of the
night but just past seven on a Sunday evening...timeline says that it was still daylight when Trayvon left the Greene residence to go to the 7-11.

You know of course that Nancy and Jane's not too politically correct sidekick Frank is another one of Zimmerman's bff's and that it was in Frank's yard that Zimmerman supposedly first spotted the hooded stranger.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29205 Jul 10, 2013
10:43 a.m. ET: Root said in all the evidence he reviewed in the case there was nothing he saw that indicated ill will or hatred from Zimmerman.

<snip>

10:32 a.m. ET: Root is explaining that Zimmerman took some boxing training, but he had not to the skill level where he was ready to get in the ring with an opponent.

10:29 a.m. ET: Root inquired into Martin's background and training with hand-to-hand combat.

10:26 a.m. ET: "Based on the injuries depicted in the photographs they were consistent with a fight, a physical fist fight," said Root.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...

*******

Other than GZ's mother, the defense has not called ANYONE who personally knows GZ....the best they can do is a PAID expert witness to testify he saw "no ill will or hatred"? Just what would he expect to "see"?

A very foolish strategy for the defense to reaffirm to the jury that Georgie is trained in hand-to-hand combat.......a regular fighting machine, that one.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29206 Jul 10, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't even the middle of the
night but just past seven on a Sunday evening...timeline says that it was still daylight when Trayvon left the Greene residence to go to the 7-11.
You know of course that Nancy and Jane's not too politically correct sidekick Frank is another one of Zimmerman's bff's and that it was in Frank's yard that Zimmerman supposedly first spotted the hooded stranger.
10:22 a.m. ET: Root is discussing the environmental conditions the night of the shooting. It was dark, rainy and it was in an isolated area behind buildings.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29207 Jul 10, 2013
zazz wrote:
<quoted text>
O'Mara released all that a while back, before the trial. He accused the prosecution of withholding evidence. But, don't think the defense knew the stuff was there for a long time. I guess they are deciding if the jury can see it.
If the text messages were real, the defense could surely have found a live witness to testify to the actual fights occurring. Not one witness has portrayed TM as a fighter.....shoddy PI the defense employed, eh?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29208 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
George Zimmerman trial: Defense can't introduce animation of fight as evidence, judge rules
(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla.-- After extensive arguments from defense attorneys and prosecutors, a central Florida judge has ruled that Trayvon Martin's cellphone texts on fighting and a defense animation depicting the fight between Martin and George Zimmerman won't be introduced as evidence at Zimmerman's trial.
<snip>
The judge says the animation can't be introduced as evidence that can be reviewed by jurors during their deliberations but defense attorneys may be able to use it during closing arguments as a demonstrative exhibit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575930...
******
Whatever, a demonstrative exhibit is not evidence. Intelligent ruling by the dowdy impersonator of a judge.
Daily Docket > Judge Nelson > 2 hour CIVIL Court hearing scheduled this AM.
http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php...
Let's get this show over with and move on to the whining and complaining about the verdict phase!
When you make a valid point it is lost because of things like you claiming the trial isn't real, 3 people have played Gorge, etc.

Please get medical attention.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29209 Jul 10, 2013
11:03 a.m. ET: Root is explaining that anyone who is reckless with a gun is dangerous.

11:01 a.m. ET: O'Mara has finished his questions for Root, and now prosecutor John Guy is asking him questions.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...

Yes indeed, if you've got a few extra rounds left on your belt after you've won the gunfight, you might as well use them up...but don't shoot backwards!

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#29210 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
10:22 a.m. ET: Root is discussing the environmental conditions the night of the shooting. It was dark, rainy and it was in an isolated area behind buildings.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...
11:08 ET, Root is now explaining that his company is new this year and this is the first time he's appeared as an expert witness in a criminal trial. Additionally he's waived his fee as a way to participate hoping that the publicity pays off later.

He's actually a pretty knowledgeable guy, even confirming my previous explanation as to why surdyka heard multiple pops.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29211 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Just read this posted on my facebook page:
"Trayvon Martin case is now a clear indication of just how bad racism is on the rise in America thanks to this race baiting president we have. We are now receiving several reports of buses loaded with these whimpy Black Panthers enroute to Sanford Florida promising to kill white people and destroy their homes. Now the question is, what will Obama do? Will he encourage it to further his plans for martial law or will he try to be an American for once and put an end to this nonsense!
I don't believe this crap for a second.

You don't give a source making it all the more suspect.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29212 Jul 10, 2013
That was posted on your Facebook by a racist who is trying to stir up trouble. Many people are praying for riots so they can say "I told you so".

No sane person would want riots.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#29213 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks BBJ. I get annoyed on Topix sometimes, but I usually do care how I come across, but that's just me. I've certainly lost my temper on occasion, but get over it fairly quickly. On the other hand, my daughter and I cannot be in the same room and discuss this case...LOL!
I will talk to anyone on either side of an argument, as long as they are behaving halfway decent at the moment.
The main reason for my opinions in this case are GZ's obvious injuries (I would have shot someone if I were getting hurt like that) and I do hate thugs...black OR white. Seems to me, Trayvon fostered his own reputation as a thug.
George a wanna-be cop, Trayvon a wanna-be thug. Cop is a better ambition than thug.
It's "not about color of skin, but content of character." I've said it before...I wish EVERYONE were purple. It would so simplify these kinds of things.
I see much of this situation, in the same grounded narrative, you have here....I would think, as HLN and CNN moonwalk away from there questionable coverage....Many of the trial threads are a bit slower....Less Venom.....lol....

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29214 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
There's very little to "prove" in this case......It's all say-so, which testimony does the jury choose to believe, which witnesses are credible. Georgie admitted he shot TM so it's not a who-done it. The jury is only left with the question of WHY.
Events leading up to the shooting -- even if TM tackled GZ does not entitle GZ to take his life if the jury concludes he had other options to rescue himself. That he chose to train at a fighting gym for over a year is negative to his defense, whether or not the trainer thought he was "soft" because that portrays him as the sort of person "looking for a fight". Frankly, I have hard time believing the part about a slug to GZs nose by TM caused him to fall to the ground flat on his back.
It is often mentioned females tend to dimly view the self-defense theory in a "shoot to kill" situation. You heard it over and over again in the Jodi Arias case - to defend herself, why not shoot Travis in the leg, anywhere to immobilize him.
The jury will need to decide if GZ killed with "depraved a mind, hatred, malice, evil intent or ill will."....or did he intentioally shoot to kill a 17 year old in the chest simply to defend himself?
Once again, I say that GZs newly ballooned heavyweight appearance works to his disadvantage, to the females on the jury he may be the personification of a big bully, a wanna-be tough guy.......and most people aren't able to easily demonize a 17 year old, the way some of you here have done.
If I was sitting on this jury, I'd vote to convict on 2nd degree, believing the pro-prosecution witnesses are credible....the defense has given me no "reasonable doubt" and GZ is acting far to casual in the courtroom, not showing any remorse.
Well, if you were "sitting on this jury," you would have actually SEEN this trial, in which case, you don't have a clue now how you would vote. They are not going by Headline News or Nancy Grace.

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29215 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously if it's on YOUR Facebook page, then one of YOUR friends posted it.
Don't you trust YOUR friends?
DUH Rambles...now I have to explain how Facebook pages work to you TOO!!!!???

I belong to conservative pages, cooking pages, gardening pages, news pages, many different interests. These pages post different updates, cartoons, pictures, whatever. You are so limited in your understanding of everything you constantly amaze.

Here's a thought...why don't you make it your business to get on one of the streaming sites and at least watch/listen to the actual closing arguments. Unless you don't want to overload your brain with genuine information, rather than NG's opinions.

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