Call for arrest of watch captain who ...

Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29780 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29194 Jul 10, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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I too hope that whatever foolishness happens, it is brief, easily contained by law enforcement, and that no one who is innocent is harmed.
Since the judge refused to allow in the evidence of Trayvon's lack of character, the defense should rest today........closing arguments should happen today.........we may have a verdict by Friday easily. I will continue to think good thoughts for Mr. Zimmerman's freedom.
Yes indeed, if George Zimmerman is acquitted, blacks everywhere will cause a uprising against Hispanics.

Give your head a shake.

That George Zimmerman's own father - if he indeed is "white" - didn't testify in his son's favour speaks volumes.......

“What goes around, comes around”

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Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29195 Jul 10, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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I honestly don't know if they can file against the law enforcement agencies. I would think not, but I am certainly not an expert in the law. Again, the state of Sanford is a shame. At one time it was a lovely agricultural town (the celery capital of the world, LOL), and wealthy growers had beautiful homes there. The downfall of Sanford was the low-income projects. Like everywhere else that those projects are built, crime, decay and filth soon followed.
You are correct that not only the police departments are ready for whatever happens in the next week or so....citizens are ready as well. I live approximately 12 miles from the courthouse, and don't expect that problems will occur in my neighborhood, but the guns are cleaned, locked and loaded. And like George Zimmerman, I keep one in the chamber. Also like George Zimmerman, I won't hesitate to shoot to kill if I believe that my life is in danger. There are a whole lot of us with that mindset in FL.
I too hope that whatever foolishness happens, it is brief, easily contained by law enforcement, and that no one who is innocent is harmed.
Since the judge refused to allow in the evidence of Trayvon's lack of character, the defense should rest today........closing arguments should happen today.........we may have a verdict by Friday easily. I will continue to think good thoughts for Mr. Zimmerman's freedom.
Just read this posted on my facebook page:
"Trayvon Martin case is now a clear indication of just how bad racism is on the rise in America thanks to this race baiting president we have. We are now receiving several reports of buses loaded with these whimpy Black Panthers enroute to Sanford Florida promising to kill white people and destroy their homes. Now the question is, what will Obama do? Will he encourage it to further his plans for martial law or will he try to be an American for once and put an end to this nonsense!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29196 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
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See what I mean about getting your facts from HLN? They got it to work later in the late afternoon/evening and we saw the same animation sequence over and over and over again.
Poor Rambler, always on the outskirts, never in the city.
An animation, regardless what cartoon style, is a totally uncouth and thoughtless manner to portray a tragedy involving events leading to the loss of anyone, let alone a 17 year old.....it trivializes death by portraying it in a style most often associated to humour.

Only ghouls like you would think "a cartoon" to be appropriate.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29197 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Just read this posted on my facebook page:
"Trayvon Martin case is now a clear indication of just how bad racism is on the rise in America thanks to this race baiting president we have. We are now receiving several reports of buses loaded with these whimpy Black Panthers enroute to Sanford Florida promising to kill white people and destroy their homes. Now the question is, what will Obama do? Will he encourage it to further his plans for martial law or will he try to be an American for once and put an end to this nonsense!
Well, if it's posted on your Facebook page it must be true!

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29198 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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An animation, regardless what cartoon style, is a totally uncouth and thoughtless manner to portray a tragedy involving events leading to the loss of anyone, let alone a 17 year old.....it trivializes death by portraying it in a style most often associated to humour.
Only ghouls like you would think "a cartoon" to be appropriate.
Didn't even say it was appropriate. Just said you proved once again you have no clue what does or does not happen in this trial, proving anything you say without merit.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29199 Jul 10, 2013
Nancy's shocking predictions in Zimmerman trial
By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 12:17 PM EDT, Mon July 01, 2013

Appearing Monday on CNN’s new morning show New Day, HLN’s Nancy Grace gave some key insight into what the defense and prosecution will look to accomplish in week 2 of the George Zimmerman trial.

She said the defense can’t rest on its laurels after a strong first week.“I predict they will put up witnesses,” she said, adding that Zimmerman's defense team still doesn't have a strong enough case to send it to the jury just yet.

"I also predict we're going to hear inconsistent statements by Zimmerman," she said, alluding to what he told police the night he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

“A lot is riding on whether this jury believes Zimmerman was in fear for his life,” Grace said.“Otherwise, you've got to explain a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”

Get the latest from the day's testimony by following HLN's live blog of the Zimmerman-Martin trial.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/07/01/nancy-g...

********

I can hardly believe I agree with Nancy Grace. None of the defense witnesses have given the jury anything to counter "you've got.........a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”

“What goes around, comes around”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Ocala, FL

#29200 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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Well, if it's posted on your Facebook page it must be true!
Didn't say it was true, but apparently you think so, which proves you believe anything.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29201 Jul 10, 2013
George Zimmerman trial: Defense can't introduce animation of fight as evidence, judge rules
(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla.-- After extensive arguments from defense attorneys and prosecutors, a central Florida judge has ruled that Trayvon Martin's cellphone texts on fighting and a defense animation depicting the fight between Martin and George Zimmerman won't be introduced as evidence at Zimmerman's trial.

<snip>

The judge says the animation can't be introduced as evidence that can be reviewed by jurors during their deliberations but defense attorneys may be able to use it during closing arguments as a demonstrative exhibit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575930...
******

Whatever, a demonstrative exhibit is not evidence. Intelligent ruling by the dowdy impersonator of a judge.

Daily Docket > Judge Nelson > 2 hour CIVIL Court hearing scheduled this AM.
http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php...

Let's get this show over with and move on to the whining and complaining about the verdict phase!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29202 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't say it was true, but apparently you think so, which proves you believe anything.
Obviously if it's on YOUR Facebook page, then one of YOUR friends posted it.

Don't you trust YOUR friends?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29203 Jul 10, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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No the jury left, and so did the bald state attorney. After the hearing on the animation, a data recovery specialist came on the stand to talk about the cell phone records. There was much more in that cell phone than has been made public.
There were texts discussing buying a gun, photo's of the gun, talks with several people about three round fights Trayvon participated in, incapacitating someone with a punch to the nose. Apparently Trayvon lost the first round of a fight because he was pinned in the same position he had GZ in. TM had his pictures and texts hidden in an app that changed the file extensions and the language for the app was French.
O'Mara released all that a while back, before the trial. He accused the prosecution of withholding evidence. But, don't think the defense knew the stuff was there for a long time. I guess they are deciding if the jury can see it.

“always”

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Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#29204 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Nancy's shocking predictions in Zimmerman trial
By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 12:17 PM EDT, Mon July 01, 2013
Appearing Monday on CNN’s new morning show New Day, HLN’s Nancy Grace gave some key insight into what the defense and prosecution will look to accomplish in week 2 of the George Zimmerman trial.
She said the defense can’t rest on its laurels after a strong first week.“I predict they will put up witnesses,” she said, adding that Zimmerman's defense team still doesn't have a strong enough case to send it to the jury just yet.
"I also predict we're going to hear inconsistent statements by Zimmerman," she said, alluding to what he told police the night he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.
“A lot is riding on whether this jury believes Zimmerman was in fear for his life,” Grace said.“Otherwise, you've got to explain a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”
Get the latest from the day's testimony by following HLN's live blog of the Zimmerman-Martin trial.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/07/01/nancy-g...
********
I can hardly believe I agree with Nancy Grace. None of the defense witnesses have given the jury anything to counter "you've got.........a grown man walking around in the middle of the night with a gun loaded, live ammo, looking for some kid that was just going home to his dad.”
It wasn't even the middle of the
night but just past seven on a Sunday evening...timeline says that it was still daylight when Trayvon left the Greene residence to go to the 7-11.

You know of course that Nancy and Jane's not too politically correct sidekick Frank is another one of Zimmerman's bff's and that it was in Frank's yard that Zimmerman supposedly first spotted the hooded stranger.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29205 Jul 10, 2013
10:43 a.m. ET: Root said in all the evidence he reviewed in the case there was nothing he saw that indicated ill will or hatred from Zimmerman.

<snip>

10:32 a.m. ET: Root is explaining that Zimmerman took some boxing training, but he had not to the skill level where he was ready to get in the ring with an opponent.

10:29 a.m. ET: Root inquired into Martin's background and training with hand-to-hand combat.

10:26 a.m. ET: "Based on the injuries depicted in the photographs they were consistent with a fight, a physical fist fight," said Root.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...

*******

Other than GZ's mother, the defense has not called ANYONE who personally knows GZ....the best they can do is a PAID expert witness to testify he saw "no ill will or hatred"? Just what would he expect to "see"?

A very foolish strategy for the defense to reaffirm to the jury that Georgie is trained in hand-to-hand combat.......a regular fighting machine, that one.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29206 Jul 10, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't even the middle of the
night but just past seven on a Sunday evening...timeline says that it was still daylight when Trayvon left the Greene residence to go to the 7-11.
You know of course that Nancy and Jane's not too politically correct sidekick Frank is another one of Zimmerman's bff's and that it was in Frank's yard that Zimmerman supposedly first spotted the hooded stranger.
10:22 a.m. ET: Root is discussing the environmental conditions the night of the shooting. It was dark, rainy and it was in an isolated area behind buildings.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29207 Jul 10, 2013
zazz wrote:
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O'Mara released all that a while back, before the trial. He accused the prosecution of withholding evidence. But, don't think the defense knew the stuff was there for a long time. I guess they are deciding if the jury can see it.
If the text messages were real, the defense could surely have found a live witness to testify to the actual fights occurring. Not one witness has portrayed TM as a fighter.....shoddy PI the defense employed, eh?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29208 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
George Zimmerman trial: Defense can't introduce animation of fight as evidence, judge rules
(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla.-- After extensive arguments from defense attorneys and prosecutors, a central Florida judge has ruled that Trayvon Martin's cellphone texts on fighting and a defense animation depicting the fight between Martin and George Zimmerman won't be introduced as evidence at Zimmerman's trial.
<snip>
The judge says the animation can't be introduced as evidence that can be reviewed by jurors during their deliberations but defense attorneys may be able to use it during closing arguments as a demonstrative exhibit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575930...
******
Whatever, a demonstrative exhibit is not evidence. Intelligent ruling by the dowdy impersonator of a judge.
Daily Docket > Judge Nelson > 2 hour CIVIL Court hearing scheduled this AM.
http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php...
Let's get this show over with and move on to the whining and complaining about the verdict phase!
When you make a valid point it is lost because of things like you claiming the trial isn't real, 3 people have played Gorge, etc.

Please get medical attention.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#29209 Jul 10, 2013
11:03 a.m. ET: Root is explaining that anyone who is reckless with a gun is dangerous.

11:01 a.m. ET: O'Mara has finished his questions for Root, and now prosecutor John Guy is asking him questions.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...

Yes indeed, if you've got a few extra rounds left on your belt after you've won the gunfight, you might as well use them up...but don't shoot backwards!

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#29210 Jul 10, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
10:22 a.m. ET: Root is discussing the environmental conditions the night of the shooting. It was dark, rainy and it was in an isolated area behind buildings.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/10/georg...
11:08 ET, Root is now explaining that his company is new this year and this is the first time he's appeared as an expert witness in a criminal trial. Additionally he's waived his fee as a way to participate hoping that the publicity pays off later.

He's actually a pretty knowledgeable guy, even confirming my previous explanation as to why surdyka heard multiple pops.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29211 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
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Just read this posted on my facebook page:
"Trayvon Martin case is now a clear indication of just how bad racism is on the rise in America thanks to this race baiting president we have. We are now receiving several reports of buses loaded with these whimpy Black Panthers enroute to Sanford Florida promising to kill white people and destroy their homes. Now the question is, what will Obama do? Will he encourage it to further his plans for martial law or will he try to be an American for once and put an end to this nonsense!
I don't believe this crap for a second.

You don't give a source making it all the more suspect.

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#29212 Jul 10, 2013
That was posted on your Facebook by a racist who is trying to stir up trouble. Many people are praying for riots so they can say "I told you so".

No sane person would want riots.

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Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#29213 Jul 10, 2013
abbynormall wrote:
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Thanks BBJ. I get annoyed on Topix sometimes, but I usually do care how I come across, but that's just me. I've certainly lost my temper on occasion, but get over it fairly quickly. On the other hand, my daughter and I cannot be in the same room and discuss this case...LOL!
I will talk to anyone on either side of an argument, as long as they are behaving halfway decent at the moment.
The main reason for my opinions in this case are GZ's obvious injuries (I would have shot someone if I were getting hurt like that) and I do hate thugs...black OR white. Seems to me, Trayvon fostered his own reputation as a thug.
George a wanna-be cop, Trayvon a wanna-be thug. Cop is a better ambition than thug.
It's "not about color of skin, but content of character." I've said it before...I wish EVERYONE were purple. It would so simplify these kinds of things.
I see much of this situation, in the same grounded narrative, you have here....I would think, as HLN and CNN moonwalk away from there questionable coverage....Many of the trial threads are a bit slower....Less Venom.....lol....

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