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Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29778 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28548 Jul 7, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>Managing the day to day operations, getting the yard work done, keeping the clubhouse area and pool in order, working with realtors on sales and rentals and all the other things management companies do. The company has been mentioned twice already during the trial, recall that the lady investigator gave George his cell phone during the initial interview so he could find the number for the "management company." He also gave her the HOA presidents number.
The other is off topic. Engle bailed and the lenders assigned the completion of the project to Lennar. The final buildings were completed in 2011.
BTW there are both two and three BR units and you might notice that the end units are different from the interior ones with upstairs porches.
If you're handy with google earth or bing, you can take the tour.
It's not a dump, perhaps you noticed that the residents called so far were upstanding citizens and mostly college grads.
I'm boycotting watching the fantasy trial.

However I can envision this type of community. It happens here.....a strong marketing plan selling a dream, individual condo owners believe they're buying into some sort of paradise. Meanwhile investors buy up bulk units, contractors and related parties are granted units in lieu looking to capitalize on price appreciation.....

Indeed some developments in Alberta are being marketed to Florida investors.

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"He kept a close watch for outsiders, but it couldn't have been easy to tell who belonged and who didn't. When the housing market crashed, many townhomes were foreclosed on and the owners evicted. Dozens of investors, unable to unload the two- and three-bedroom properties, rented them to cover their upside-down mortgages.

The developers had envisioned a stable neighborhood with home­owners planting long-term roots, but now townhouses were turning over all the time. Insiders moved out. Outsiders moved in.

By the time Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, 40 properties inside the gate were empty and more than half of the residents were renters."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/tr...

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Appx 260 townhouses - 40 empty, 110 rentals, leaves 110 the majority short sales/repos probably turned over at the bottom of the market. Paradise lost.

Tired of Silly
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Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#28549 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
"During the months before he shot Martin, Zimmerman called police about once a month, said Kim Cannaday, spokeswoman for the Seminole County Sheriff's Office. He called about suspicious-looking people in the neighborhood, many whom, like Martin, he identified as black. Zimmerman also called to report a neighbor's garage door open and children playing in the street, asking that he remain anonymous so as not to offend other neighbors."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03...
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So as neighbourhood Watch Captain, in a year George made about 12 of the 402 calls. Considering there are only about 260 complexes in the Retreat at Twin Lakes, 402 calls are a lot. No clue as to why it became so crime riden but it certainly supports the storyline that it indeed was.......
“Our next-door neighbor actually said if someone came into his yard he would shoot him.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03...
It became crime ridden because it's in SANFORD, the pimple on the butt of Seminole County. Sanford, the home of the ghetto projects where a bunch of ghetto apes live, kill, deal their drugs, and commit every crime on the books. Unfortunately, they don't stay in their ghetto, and we're not allowed to put up a wall and barbed wire to keep them there. They go out into neighboring communities to steal, assault, rape and kill. THAT'S why every community in Sanford is crime ridden. The best hope for crime reduction in Sanford is that the ghetto apes burn down the filthy projects when Mr. Zimmerman is found not guilty.
Oasis

Holly Springs, NC

#28550 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, you're referring to a management company hired by the HOA.
"The original developer, Engle Homes went belly up...the community was finally completed in 2011 by Lennar Homes who was working for the lenders. Aside from the HOA there was-is a management company involved in the day to day operation of the community."
OK, an additional level of insulation, miscommunication and misunderstanding. The HOA is merely administative and is a liaison. A team of experts under one hat.....the management company. Maybe this management company is the one who manages all the "legal" rentals in the community. Interior maintenance is not any HOA's responsibilty. No multi-family structure needs some bonehead knocking out walls in the middle of their unit 'cause they saw an episode on HGTV. LOL.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28551 Jul 7, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
Video security, swimming pool maintenance and safety, grounds and landscaping maintenance, trash pick-up. The HOA is the paper pusher for these daily operations.
Contracted out.....limited liability......zero expertise.
Speaking of HOAs and condo management companies, during the recent Alberts flood it's become a bone of contention that some of these management companies are nowhere to be found, leaving scores of owner-occupied condo owners locked out of their properties because no one is leading the necessary and costly repair work. Meanwhile the condo-associations (HOAs) are made up of a group of unwitting homeowners who are now in way over their head with what they're having to cope with......bad enough to have damage to one's own property let alone responsibility of 100 or more others.

It's pretty much a given it's a safer to rent a condo than own one....,..
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28552 Jul 7, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, an additional level of insulation, miscommunication and misunderstanding. The HOA is merely administative and is a liaison. A team of experts under one hat.....the management company. Maybe this management company is the one who manages all the "legal" rentals in the community. Interior maintenance is not any HOA's responsibilty. No multi-family structure needs some bonehead knocking out walls in the middle of their unit 'cause they saw an episode on HGTV. LOL.
I know what a HOA is, good grief don't assume everyone is stupid.

HOA = Home Owner's Association

A HOA collects fees from each townhouse owner, which are in part utilized to contract out necessary maintenance services for shared amenities within that comminity. Of course interior maintenance of owned units is not a HOA responsibility!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28554 Jul 7, 2013
Home Owners Association or HOA Law & Legal Definition

A Home Owners Association (HOA) is an organization of homeowners of a particular subdivision, condominium or planned unit development. The purpose of a home owners association is to provide a common basis for preserving maintaining and enhancing their homes and property. Most homeowners' associations are non-profit corporations. They are subject to state statutes that govern non-profit corporations and homeowner associations. The associations provide services, regulate activities, levy assessments, and impose fines. Usually, each member of a homeowners association pays assessments. Those assessments or dues are used to pay for expenses that arise from having and maintaining common property.

Example of a state statute defining Homeowners association.

Fla. Stat. 720.301

9) "Homeowners' association" or "association" means a Florida corporation responsible for the operation of a community or a mobile home subdivision in which the voting membership is made up of parcel owners or their agents, or a combination thereof, and in which membership is a mandatory condition of parcel ownership, and which is authorized to impose assessments that, if unpaid, may become a lien on the parcel. The term "homeowners' association" does not include a community development district or other similar special taxing district created pursuant to statute.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/home-owners-...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28557 Jul 7, 2013
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Whohoo!

Why don't one of you locals ask if she cut a check for a million dollars to Mom?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28559 Jul 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking as a landlord, I can tell you that's the sentiments of many people. They are sick of ownership and rentals is at an all time high. In fact, I heard a report a few months ago that investors are buying and building multi-family units to accommodate all these new renters.
During the housing bubble, I lost several great tenants. They wanted to take advantage of 0% down. A few years afterwards when the market collapsed, they told me how they regretted their decision at the time. I tried to talk them out of moving, but they assumed I was only looking out for myself and not them.
Yes, developers and realtors love naive people who buy into the foolish dream they will become rich by earning you a return on your investment through rental income plus future capital appreciation, while all your expenses including interest on that big mortgage is tax deductible and a portion of your capital gains is tax exempt.

Ask yourself why very few apartment complexes are being built today if there's so much money in becoming a landlord. other than govt subsidized low income facilities.

Level 5

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28561 Jul 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
I had a problem with my next door neighbor a few weeks ago.
I am sure you have problems with all your neighbors, you lying sack of [email protected]

You are that kind of neighbor.
Ctz

Riverside, CA

#28563 Jul 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh boy, another work of fiction from this m/f c/s lying sack of [email protected] who says he just happens to have tenants who went through the housing bubble but then came back to tell him they lost everything!
HAHAHAHAHAH!
You lying sack of [email protected]: you don't have tenants and never have, and tenants going back to their old landlords and tell them how great they had it when they were renting.
There is no one person in Topix that is more full of [email protected] then you, Pinocchio.

She is talking about Cockroaches as her tenants. You know they always come back to where life is good and they are free to roam .
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28564 Jul 7, 2013
"George Zimmerman was an enthusiastic leader of his Florida community's neighbourhood watch programme, but turned down an invitation from the Sanford police department to don a uniform and go out on patrol as a citizen volunteer, a court heard on Tuesday."

<snip>

But the volunteer programme co-ordinator for the city's police department told the jury that she found Zimmerman, 29, to be an always "polite, courteous and respectful" resident whom she tried to persuade to become law enforcement's formal "eyes and ears" for his community.

"He seemed like he really wanted to make changes in his community, to make it better," Wendy Dorival said under cross-examination by Zimmerman's attorney, Don West.

"I wanted to recruit him to be a citizen on patrol volunteer, but he said no."
She said that it would have involved a four or five week training programme after which Zimmerman would have been allowed to wear a polo shirt-style uniform and patrol the community in a marked car with amber lights.

Dorival said she thought he possessed qualities that would have made him a good candidate for the program. "His demeanor, the way he interacted with me, his high interest in being involved in his community and the city of Sanford," led her to recommend him, she told prosecutor John Guy."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/25/g...

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The storyline is ambiguous.

Retreat at Twin Lakes was a 23/7 gated comminity, 402 911 calls made to police in the proceeding year.

George Zimmerman's name was posted as "a Watch Captain" within the comminity.

But the HOA (or it's agent, the management company depending on the authority structure) hired NO security guards to deal with all the known issues?

Or was George Zimmerman a paid employee, under-the-table - A Secuirity Guard - and that's the part of the story that's not getting told.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28566 Jul 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a long term investment for many investors. Personally, I enjoy it and my payback will come when the places are paid off or perhaps when I sell. I'm not making any money on it now. I get a tax return every year when I combine what I made on the apartments (less deductions) and my full time job.
Now that there is more demand than supply, landlords are asking for more money for their rental units. They are getting it too. I'm keeping my rental prices the same for my current tenants. But if one of them leaves and I have to rent it out to strangers, I too will ask for top price.
You could probably earn more if you became a developer's testimonial.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#28567 Jul 7, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>That area has a very short history moron, prior to 2005 the entire Twin Lakes area was pasture land.
Does it make you braver or more intelligent, calling other's names?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28568 Jul 7, 2013
Ctz wrote:
<quoted text>
She is talking about Cockroaches as her tenants. You know they always come back to where life is good and they are free to roam .
Anyone who says they put 0% down to buy an investment unit is either lying or involved in a scam.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28569 Jul 7, 2013
"Dorival, who helped Zimmerman launch the development's neighbourhood watch programme in September 2011 after a series of break-ins, said it was exactly the type of call she encourages concerned citizens to make.

"They are the eyes and ears of law enforcement, they are extension of law enforcement. They are not supposed to take matters into their own hands,[they should] let law enforcement take the risk approaching a suspect," she said."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/25/g...

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This makes no sense that a 24/7 gated condo comminity would expect residents to volunteer their time to patrol it, while hiring a company to perform other "no risk" services such as cutting the grass or cleaning a swimming pool.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28570 Jul 7, 2013
Any trial testimony yet about the THIRD PERSON some witnesses observed leaving the crime scene?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28571 Jul 7, 2013
If George Zimmerman was indeed HIRED to provide security for the Retreat at Twin Lakes community, the outside world wouldn't necessarily know what security features were employed.

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"The fact that George Zimmerman said to you,'Thank God. I hope somebody did videotape the event, the whole event.' His statement – what did that indicate to you?" defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked Monday.

"Either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar. One of the two," Serino responded.

When questioned further, Serino said he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth and was not a pathological liar."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/02/19...

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28572 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
"George Zimmerman was an enthusiastic leader of his Florida community's neighbourhood watch programme, but turned down an invitation from the Sanford police department to don a uniform and go out on patrol as a citizen volunteer, a court heard on Tuesday."
<snip>
But the volunteer programme co-ordinator for the city's police department told the jury that she found Zimmerman, 29, to be an always "polite, courteous and respectful" resident whom she tried to persuade to become law enforcement's formal "eyes and ears" for his community.
"He seemed like he really wanted to make changes in his community, to make it better," Wendy Dorival said under cross-examination by Zimmerman's attorney, Don West.
"I wanted to recruit him to be a citizen on patrol volunteer, but he said no."
She said that it would have involved a four or five week training programme after which Zimmerman would have been allowed to wear a polo shirt-style uniform and patrol the community in a marked car with amber lights.
Dorival said she thought he possessed qualities that would have made him a good candidate for the program. "His demeanor, the way he interacted with me, his high interest in being involved in his community and the city of Sanford," led her to recommend him, she told prosecutor John Guy."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/25/g...
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The storyline is ambiguous.
Retreat at Twin Lakes was a 23/7 gated comminity, 402 911 calls made to police in the proceeding year.
George Zimmerman's name was posted as "a Watch Captain" within the comminity.
But the HOA (or it's agent, the management company depending on the authority structure) hired NO security guards to deal with all the known issues?
Or was George Zimmerman a paid employee, under-the-table - A Secuirity Guard - and that's the part of the story that's not getting told.
Wendy, a chubby Hispanic lady was smitten with Goerge, had she run his background she likely would have rescinded he offer.

According to the HOA president the biggest single problem at The Retreat prior to the sudden string of burglaries was parking, folks parking in front of others driveways, on the grass etc. One of the knocks on The Retreat from early on was that the units had only single car garages and tiny driveways making parking a challenge.

George wasn't paid, nothing there to tell.

FYI most of this nonsense your posting about appears earlier on this thread.

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28573 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Any trial testimony yet about the THIRD PERSON some witnesses observed leaving the crime scene?
It was a 15 year old boy that was walking his dog. Haven't heard that he is testifying.

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28574 Jul 7, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Does it make you braver or more intelligent, calling other's names?
Does your abject racism fuel some inner need?

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