Call for arrest of watch captain who ...

Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29778 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28522 Jul 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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If you believe everything you read, that's your problem.
When you get older, you'll become wiser....
The only insurance Sybrina Fulton could have collected is LIFE INSURANCE, and then the question must be asked, for what purpose does a mother file a million dollar policy on her 17 year old son? Perhaps god instructed her to do so, god's plan, he knew what would happen.....
Maybe you are the one that should get wiser. Yes, the mother can file a claim against an insurance company, NOT LIFE INSURANCE, if they were injured or killed on the property of another. Its called liability insurance, not life insurance.

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28523 Jul 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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Yes indeed, HOA's are responsible for maintenance of public areas to ensure safety, and legally liable if someone is injured or killed thought their negligence, as is any property owner, business, municipality, etc .....which is why insurance is required. How old are you anyway?
Not all the filing are foreclosures.
Rambler do you ever read what you write, or do you just type. Read to what you posted further up. You typed that if HOA were responsible for safety it would be a first, and in this post I am replying to you say Yes indeed they are responsible. Which is it, can you make up your mind?

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28527 Jul 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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A motion filed during this trial? If so, that's really brilliant for a DEFENSE attorney to intend to introduce into evidence what would easily be misconstrued as proof his client was already deemed by another party to be responsible for WRONGFUL DEATH.
In this fantasy trial, seems O'Mara is working for the prosecution. LOL
You totally misunderstood again.

CRUMP, not Omara, filed paperwork into this trial that CRUMP wanted sealed. The paperwork that Crump filed was the settlement agreement. OMara filed a motion to find out what was in the settlement agreement. He believe the info in the settlement agreement could "sway" Sybrina and Tracy's testimony.

I personally do not understand how an attorney, not related to the case except as a witness, can file any paperwork into the case file that would be sealed from both the State and the Defense attorneys. Even financially mourning Mom and Dad are not mentioned in the criminal case against GZ. The settlement agreement is in the name of "The Estate of Trayvon Martin" and I am confused as to how any of this is allowed to be injected into the criminal records. Does anyone know?

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28530 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Police release more calls made by George Zimmerman
Police: Zimmerman shot, killed Trayvon Martin, 17
Published On: Mar 19 2012 06:06:49 PM EDT Updated On: Mar 20 2012 07:04:44 AM EDT
SANFORD, Fla.-
Sanford police have released more calls made to the police by George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watchman who police say shot and killed a Sanford teen.
Zimmerman, 28, is accused of shooting and killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
Sanford police said Zimmerman has called 911 46 times since 2001, reporting disturbances, break-ins and other incidents. On nine different occasions, Zimmerman has reported a suspicious person.
From January 2011 to February 2012 records show there were 402 calls to police from that neighborhood, five were about burglaries, but a majority of the calls were about disturbances.
Local 6 has obtained six of the calls to the non-emergency line that Zimmerman has made in the past year, all leading up to the shooting.
In one of the calls, Zimmerman tells authorities he's with neighborhood watch and has seen a man walking around the neighborhood in pajama pants walking around a resident's house.
"I’ve seen him before on trash days, going around picking up trash," Zimmerman said in the call. " I don’t know what his deal is."
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Police-relea...
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402 calls within one year? That averages more than one per day!
The origial developer with fat pockets would be the only one still smiling.......equity owners out in the cold.
The original developer, Engle Homes went belly up...the community was finally completed in 2011 by Lennar Homes who was working for the lenders. Aside from the HOA there was-is a management company involved in the day to day operation of the community.

Your police call information is erroneous, a creation of media. That neighborhood, Twin Lakes, includes other large complexes.

Those 46 calls all belong to George Zimmerman and there are likely many more ranging from potholes to who knows. George initially came to Florida at that time and eventually lived in a Lake Mary home that his parents purchased. As you should know George has relatives in the area, one testified last week and George worked for the other in the insurance business.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#28531 Jul 7, 2013
zazz wrote:
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You race bait everyday.
At least you're consistent....missing every point....is your real name, Rachel Jeantel?

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#28532 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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"From January 2011 to February 2012 records show there were 402 calls to police from that neighborhood, five were about burglaries, but a majority of the calls were about disturbances."
Poor George.
Less than 4 a week, actually kinda low...considering the area's crime rate history.....
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28534 Jul 7, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Maybe you are the one that should get wiser. Yes, the mother can file a claim against an insurance company, NOT LIFE INSURANCE, if they were injured or killed on the property of another. Its called liability insurance, not life insurance.
Yes in fiction, anything can happen. The mother could then go on to run for President!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28535 Jul 7, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Less than 4 a week, actually kinda low...considering the area's crime rate history.....
There are 365 days in a year.

402 calls from Jan, 2011 to Feb, 2012 is more than one per day.

What happened to paradise?

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The building of the Retreat at Twin Lakes is a classic Florida story.

Developers saw potential in the sandy acres east of Orlando and determined to turn them into an oasis. They planned a gated subdivision just 10 minutes from downtown — a cloistered community near the interstate, close to good schools, outlet malls and the magic of Disney World.

The idea, as always, was that people could live peacefully in a paradise where nobody could park a car on the street or paint the house an odd color.

In 2004, Engle Homes began construction on 263 two-story townhouses, with upstairs porches and covered back patios and plenty of green space. Inside, the townhomes boasted granite countertops, hardwood floors, master suites and walk-in closets. Outside, there was a pond, a clubhouse and a community pool.

Everything was walled in, to keep out the unknown.

"With its modern Florida architecture, this secluded, gated community is like living in a resort," a spokesmodel says in a promotional video posted on YouTube. "It's the perfect choice for those looking for space and comfort."

The initial cost of a 1,400-square-foot townhome and the pass code to that front gate:$250,000. Today, post-boom, the price has dipped below $100,000.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/tr...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28536 Jul 7, 2013
Retreat at Twin Lakes
http://www.easystreetrealty-orlando.com/sanfo...

Except one, each townhouse is exactly 1203 sq feet ranging in listed price from $80,000 to $186,000. Does that make any sense?

"Community Features a 24-Hour SECURITY GATE."

So why is it crime riden?

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28537 Jul 7, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Less than 4 a week, actually kinda low...considering the area's crime rate history.....
That area has a very short history moron, prior to 2005 the entire Twin Lakes area was pasture land.

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28538 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Retreat at Twin Lakes
http://www.easystreetrealty-orlando.com/sanfo...
Except one, each townhouse is exactly 1203 sq feet ranging in listed price from $80,000 to $186,000. Does that make any sense?
"Community Features a 24-Hour SECURITY GATE."
So why is it crime riden?
Wrong again...maybe your new topix pal can provide you with the correct info, she's an expert on Sanford...and everything else. LMAO
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28539 Jul 7, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>The original developer, Engle Homes went belly up...the community was finally completed in 2011 by Lennar Homes who was working for the lenders. Aside from the HOA there was-is a management company involved in the day to day operation of the community.
Your police call information is erroneous, a creation of media. That neighborhood, Twin Lakes, includes other large complexes.
Those 46 calls all belong to George Zimmerman and there are likely many more ranging from potholes to who knows. George initially came to Florida at that time and eventually lived in a Lake Mary home that his parents purchased. As you should know George has relatives in the area, one testified last week and George worked for the other in the insurance business.
Yes, I notice Engle Homes became wholy owned by Technical Olympic USA (TOUSA), Inc.

And I'm not denying 46 calls were make by a "George Zimmerman" but the name is certainly not unique.

Aside from the HOA, why would a management company be involved in "day to day operations of the community"? What "operations" would there be to oversee?

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Mar 23, 2009, 4:42pm EDT UPDATED: Mar 24, 2009, 3:55pm EDT
TOUSA to lay off 200, will stop building new homes

"It noted that legal and consulting fees associated with the Chapter 11 case was eating up cash. The Business Journal reported last year that the four top-paid attorneys were billing somewhere between $2,500 and $3,000 an hour."

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stori...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28540 Jul 7, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again...maybe your new topix pal can provide you with the correct info, she's an expert on Sanford...and everything else. LMAO
"Wrong again" about what?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28541 Jul 7, 2013
All these alarm system but no video survelance?

That's a leap......

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"Every building at the Retreat at Twin Lakes is painted some shade of brown: taupe, terra cotta, khaki. Every townhome has a garage out front and a keypad on the door handle — so if someone steals your keys they can't get inside. Dozens of yards have signs alerting would-be intruders of alarm systems.

"It is a peaceful place. We don't have problems here," Tito Ortiz, 62, said the other day beside his mailbox. A former minister, Ortiz remarried five years ago and bought a house in the Retreat for his new bride. Somewhere they would be safe to grow old together.

"I don't know what happened with that boy. I'm so surprised that happened here," he said. But he doesn't worry about staying in the neighborhood and has no intention of moving. "We are still going to find our peace here."

Many residents of the gated community declined to talk to reporters. Others were eager to give their opinions, but not their names. Several said they had started carrying guns.

No one had seen Zimmerman. Or Trayvon Martin's dad. Except on the news.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/tr...
Oasis

Holly Springs, NC

#28542 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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Aside from the HOA, why would a management company be involved in "day to day operations of the community"? What "operations" would there be to oversee?
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Video security, swimming pool maintenance and safety, grounds and landscaping maintenance, trash pick-up. The HOA is the paper pusher for these daily operations.
Contracted out.....limited liability......zero expertise.
Oasis

Holly Springs, NC

#28543 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
No one had seen Zimmerman. Or Trayvon Martin's dad. Except on the news.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/tr...
Liar!!!! Taafee knows GZ. He lives there. How about those two AA adult males he "quizzed" on a neighborhood walk. The attempted "hot" bicycle search and recovery? The one that magically appeared in the guy's garage with a different seat. Those folks know GZ. Lord knows the cops and call centers know GZ....LOL

Just those on the "wrong side" of the mailboxes don't know GZ.
Unless, of course, you (and your link) are talking about post-murder "had seen". Then, nevermind......
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28544 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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"From January 2011 to February 2012 records show there were 402 calls to police from that neighborhood, five were about burglaries, but a majority of the calls were about disturbances."
Poor George.
"During the months before he shot Martin, Zimmerman called police about once a month, said Kim Cannaday, spokeswoman for the Seminole County Sheriff's Office. He called about suspicious-looking people in the neighborhood, many whom, like Martin, he identified as black. Zimmerman also called to report a neighbor's garage door open and children playing in the street, asking that he remain anonymous so as not to offend other neighbors."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03...

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So as neighbourhood Watch Captain, in a year George made about 12 of the 402 calls. Considering there are only about 260 complexes in the Retreat at Twin Lakes, 402 calls are a lot. No clue as to why it became so crime riden but it certainly supports the storyline that it indeed was.......

“Our next-door neighbor actually said if someone came into his yard he would shoot him.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03...

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28545 Jul 7, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I notice Engle Homes became wholy owned by Technical Olympic USA (TOUSA), Inc.
And I'm not denying 46 calls were make by a "George Zimmerman" but the name is certainly not unique.
Aside from the HOA, why would a management company be involved in "day to day operations of the community"? What "operations" would there be to oversee?
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Mar 23, 2009, 4:42pm EDT UPDATED: Mar 24, 2009, 3:55pm EDT
TOUSA to lay off 200, will stop building new homes
"It noted that legal and consulting fees associated with the Chapter 11 case was eating up cash. The Business Journal reported last year that the four top-paid attorneys were billing somewhere between $2,500 and $3,000 an hour."
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stori...
Managing the day to day operations, getting the yard work done, keeping the clubhouse area and pool in order, working with realtors on sales and rentals and all the other things management companies do. The company has been mentioned twice already during the trial, recall that the lady investigator gave George his cell phone during the initial interview so he could find the number for the "management company." He also gave her the HOA presidents number.

The other is off topic. Engle bailed and the lenders assigned the completion of the project to Lennar. The final buildings were completed in 2011.

BTW there are both two and three BR units and you might notice that the end units are different from the interior ones with upstairs porches.

If you're handy with google earth or bing, you can take the tour.

It's not a dump, perhaps you noticed that the residents called so far were upstanding citizens and mostly college grads.
Oasis

Holly Springs, NC

#28546 Jul 7, 2013
GZ is the kind of guy who would park under/near a basketball hoop and just wait and watch.....

What a POS....a murdering POS.......the community henchman.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28547 Jul 7, 2013
Oasis wrote:
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Video security, swimming pool maintenance and safety, grounds and landscaping maintenance, trash pick-up. The HOA is the paper pusher for these daily operations.
Contracted out.....limited liability......zero expertise.
Okay, you're referring to a management company hired by the HOA.

"The original developer, Engle Homes went belly up...the community was finally completed in 2011 by Lennar Homes who was working for the lenders. Aside from the HOA there was-is a management company involved in the day to day operation of the community."

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