Call for arrest of watch captain who ...

Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29779 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28390 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Yes, to some it would appear that way. However this is SOP in criminal cases, and could simply mean that the Judge does not want to take personal responsibility for droppin gthe carges and wants the jury to make the decision. I would imagine that with all of the threats of riots and such the Judge would not want threats made or carried out against her and her family.
Well anyway, the donors to the defense fund won't be let down -- they'll be able to see their money at work!

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#28391 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Apparently TM left 7-11 at 6:24 pm.
I don't care if he stopped to play checkers in the park.

I know you find it disturbing but black people are allowed to walk to the store if they want to, even in white neighborhoods. They can walk fast and they can walk slow and they can even have long conversations on cell phones: all legal.

The pedophile apologists here have argued that there was no evidence to bring him to trial; the judge has refuted that argument.

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#28392 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
I would imagine that with all of the threats of riots and such the Judge would not want threats made or carried out against her and her family.
Yes, we can agree that that is all imagination.

That you have an imagination- but we knew this when you imagined that the Martin boy attacked this pedophile who was pretending to be a policeman.

From what I have seen of her: I doubt that there is a judge in Florida who is less intimidated- threats of riot, threats against herself made by racists such as those made by the pedophile apologists- by anyone than this one.
Memorial H 10 4 Texas

Spring, TX

#28393 Jul 6, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I posted it a few relies back. The neighbor's name was Joe Horn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shootin...
Horn was actually in his front yard and the Afro-Latino pair ventured into his yard after committing a burglary at the neighbor's. The difference was that a LE individual witnessed the scene.

The other difference is that they were not 17 and skipping along the sidewalk (what Gorge said)
with a fruit drink and fruit-flavored candy.

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Since: Oct 12

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#28394 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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I am including a link to the petition. One millions was a gross over estimate, no surprise. It is not even at 600,000 signatures, and people are still signing it. I don't believe online petitions are worth the time it takes to read them. I don't think they hold any value except to make people think they are doing something of value from the comfort of their computer privacy. Too easy for people to sign numerous times with different IDs and IPs
You are correct, they are only useful, for them as a talking point....BTW, notice how Nanct Grace has been absent and them and MSNBC and CNN are moonwalking slowly away from their uber lynchmob doctrine....into a "We mighta f*cked up" fallback position, anticipating a not guilty verdict......If anything bad happens after, they would still be responsible for alotta of the race-baiting.......

“Come and get it! ”

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#28395 Jul 6, 2013
The Prosecution rests!?? I'm still waiting for them to start!

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Since: Oct 12

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#28396 Jul 6, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>You heard recently where?
The two minutes have never been in dispute and work against all of Georges versions of events.
Next week should be exciting, De La Rionda won't be nearly as nice.
Nothing has contradicted George's account of events.....Just your prejudice.....

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Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28397 Jul 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I don't care if he stopped to play checkers in the park.
I know you find it disturbing but black people are allowed to walk to the store if they want to, even in white neighborhoods. They can walk fast and they can walk slow and they can even have long conversations on cell phones: all legal.
The pedophile apologists here have argued that there was no evidence to bring him to trial; the judge has refuted that argument.
Yes they can walk to the store, yes they can have long conversations on the phone. What they cannot do is punch someone repeatedly and not expect someone to defend themselves. The original LEO and State Attorney agreed that there was no evidence to bring him to trial. Unfortunately, the race baiters failed to recognize that GZ IS NOT white and put out enough false into to make the black community think that GZ shot what appeared to be a 12 year old boy, instead of the 17 year old wanna be thug. Why didn't they use the most recent pictures of Trayvon, you know the ones I'm talking about: him holding a gun, flipping people off on social media, and similar, to show the TRUE personality of Trayvon, instead of the much younger outdated info they used.
Memorial H 10 4 Texas

Spring, TX

#28398 Jul 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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So what colour is Gorge?
http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/gues...
If you are going by color, it depends on the photo you look at.

I prefer the DNA delineation. He is Afro-Peruvian (mom) mixed with white. She married an ugly white man to try to get a lighter skin tone for her kids. I don't know. What color is buttocks-ugly?
I do think it's a little rude when people bark if his sister has her head hanging out the window going down the street.

Comparatively speaking, wife Shelia, is a beauty queen. Maybe a Honey Boo Boo Mama Beauty Queen.
lol

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Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28399 Jul 6, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct, they are only useful, for them as a talking point....BTW, notice how Nanct Grace has been absent and them and MSNBC and CNN are moonwalking slowly away from their uber lynchmob doctrine....into a "We mighta f*cked up" fallback position, anticipating a not guilty verdict......If anything bad happens after, they would still be responsible for alotta of the race-baiting.......
I am hoping that Sharpton loses his racial TV show when this is said and done. Media would never allow a white host to have the same agenda. But, blacks would never stand for a White Entertainment TV. Yet they feel perfectly justified in BET, BTN, or Bounce. They would scream racism if it were the opposite. Its getting ridiculous. Nor would they stand for a NAAWP, or United White College Fund.

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Since: Feb 11

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#28400 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Yes they can walk to the store, yes they can have long conversations on the phone. What they cannot do is punch someone repeatedly
You try to stop me while I am walking home from the store at night and I'd beat on you until I got tired.

But in this case: the prosecution has proved that the pedophile stopped this boy at night on a sidewalk the boy had every right in the world- even in Florida, even if he was black- to be.

And the pedophile's statement that he was hit 20-30 times will sink him, on top of the long list of other lies he told and has told since he killed this boy.

A person hit in the head 20-30 times looks like Sonny Liston after he lost to Ali.

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#28401 Jul 6, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing has contradicted George's account of events.....Just your prejudice.....
Which account of the four are you using?

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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Since: Mar 10

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#28402 Jul 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
"Yet the Court has also clearly held that the Constitution requires that the government prove all elements of a criminal offense beyond a reasonable doubt. In re Winship, 397 U.S. 358 (1970).
Due process is satisfied when the government is required to prove all of the elements of the offense, as defined by the legislature. Due process does not require that the government accept the additional burden of disproving every fact constituting an affirmative defense to the charge."
*******
The onus is in the prosecution to prove a GZ is guilty of 2nd degree murder beyond reasonable doubt, but not disprove an affirmative defense theory.
What else is new!
"Due process does not require that the government accept the additional burden of disproving every fact constituting an affirmative defense to the charge."

“JUSTICE DENIED, AGAIN!!!”

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Since: Mar 10

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#28403 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Apparently TM left 7-11 at 6:24 pm. The store was .08 miles from where he was staying. Sounds like he was doing a little loitering in the area around where GZ first spotted him. There is no way it should have taken him that long to get to the area where GZ first spotted him, and a darn good reason for concern.
Zimmerman had no way of knowing when Trayvon left the 7-11, not that it matters.

Everyone knows he was hanging outside talking to a friend on the phone. Zimmerman had no reason to follow him. No reason to stalk him. No reason to chase him down. No reason to accost him. No reason to murder him.

“always”

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Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28404 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Where is Sharpton now that this isn't going the way the media hound thought it would? He is preaching propaganda BS on this TV show that is dropping in the ratings by the day.
Yep, makes sense that the Sanford PD (Serino) was treating him like a friend by making him recant his story several times and trying to get a confession by telling him it was all recorded. Dream on. Serino said he got the flashlight to work, big deal. My son has gotten things to work that I couldn't.
The most important aspects of this case are that
It is not illegal to follow someone
Police operator did not "order" GZ to stop following Trayvon, they simply said "We don't need you to do that" They can't give orders
GZ injuries numerous, TM injuries 1
Witness testimony that TM was sitting on GM punching him
Need I go on......
Tracy Martin and Brandi may have to answer the question from defense regarding why they went to bed instead of being worried why his son wasn't home after a short trip to the store. Why the LEO and other activity just down the street didn't concern him if they got home at 10:30 as he said he did, and why he waited until the next morning to call police. His answers could open up the door to more questions about TMs past if he wasn't concerned because it was normal for TM to not be where he should be, and staying out late. Will be interesting for sure next week.
Sharpton and others were satisfied when George was charged with a crime and arrested. Perhaps you have a case of amnesia regarding the non happenings during the time between 2/26/12 and the time of Ben Crump's news conference on March 16th?

A Florida police chief can't declare a person innocent citing SYG nor can a states attorney...that requires a date with a circuit court judge. Did Norm Wolfinger step forward and state that there was not enough evidence to charge George with any sort of crime?

The SA 18 and SPD were jackin and jerkin in exactly the same way they did after the Sherman Ware case hoping it would all blow over.

George's bbff, Joe Oliver went on TV and relayed that George told him that he was laying low hoping that it would blow over.

George provoked the confrontation and likely provoked the violence.
Memorial H 10 4 Texas

Spring, TX

#28405 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Yes they can walk to the store, yes they can have long conversations on the phone. What they cannot do is punch someone repeatedly and not expect someone to defend themselves. The original LEO and State Attorney agreed that there was no evidence to bring him to trial. Unfortunately, the race baiters failed to recognize that GZ IS NOT white and put out enough false into to make the black community think that GZ shot what appeared to be a 12 year old boy, instead of the 17 year old wanna be thug. Why didn't they use the most recent pictures of Trayvon, you know the ones I'm talking about: him holding a gun, flipping people off on social media, and similar, to show the TRUE personality of Trayvon, instead of the much younger outdated info they used.
Like the prosecution said, Trayvon had just as much right to stand his ground. Seeing as how he was just outside the area he was visiting and Gorge was nowhere near where he lived, Gorge was in the wrong. I don't care if he s a self-appointed NW vigilante, Gorge even said he was not "patrolling" at that time and was on his way to Target. He violated the HOA rules by carrying a firearm. If he hadn't had that firearm, I doubt the fight would have escalated. They might have wrestled, but when TM saw the weapon, he knew he had to fight for his life. If Gorge had been following the rules and hadn't been right up on TM, Gorge wouldn't have ruined his own life and brought disgrace to his family.
It's doubtful he was only a few yards from his vehicle or only followed for 10 seconds. He's not very good at watch and report which is all he was supposed to do. If you have crime around your neighborhood, install video cams, home security, and a block by block NW, not one off balance wanna be cop trying to OWN the whole community. I thank Trayvon Martin for ensuring that Gorge will never be a cop or probably even a jailer/detention worker.

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28406 Jul 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You try to stop me while I am walking home from the store at night and I'd beat on you until I got tired.
But in this case: the prosecution has proved that the pedophile stopped this boy at night on a sidewalk the boy had every right in the world- even in Florida, even if he was black- to be.
And the pedophile's statement that he was hit 20-30 times will sink him, on top of the long list of other lies he told and has told since he killed this boy.
A person hit in the head 20-30 times looks like Sonny Liston after he lost to Ali.
Hmm, which witness testified that GZ stopped TM? Can't wait for this answer.

Even the forensic chick recanted and said it was possible for GZ to have been hit two or three times in the face and that each side of his head could have been hit on the concrete four to six times each and up to four times on the back of his head. Add them up, how many hits did the State witness say GZ could have endured before firing his gun, maybe 14 or more? How many more would it have taken for him to lose conscientiousness, one more, two more?

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#28407 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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I am hoping that Sharpton loses his racial TV show when this is said and done. Media would never allow a white host to have the same agenda. But, blacks would never stand for a White Entertainment TV. Yet they feel perfectly justified in BET, BTN, or Bounce. They would scream racism if it were the opposite. Its getting ridiculous. Nor would they stand for a NAAWP, or United White College Fund.
Frankly, i am surprised more isn't said, about the societal dangers of lynchmob, race-baiting which has gone on, specifically at HLN, CNN and MSNBC for the last 16 months, in the case of this incident.....Then i wonder, where and whom would have this conversation?...lol...a laugh, but it's really both sad and scary.....Have you ever seen Newsroom, on HBO?.....
Memorial H 10 4 Texas

Spring, TX

#28408 Jul 6, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Hmm, which witness testified that GZ stopped TM? Can't wait for this answer.
Even the forensic chick recanted and said it was possible for GZ to have been hit two or three times in the face and that each side of his head could have been hit on the concrete four to six times each and up to four times on the back of his head. Add them up, how many hits did the State witness say GZ could have endured before firing his gun, maybe 14 or more? How many more would it have taken for him to lose conscientiousness, one more, two more?
And wow he was able to do all of that without any DNA of Gorge's under his fingernails and only what I think were 3 abrasions on one hand which could have happened prior to the incident. You are buying Gorge's story for some unknown reason. The medical examiner/doctor Rao said that Gorge's injuries were insignificant. He didn't go to the ER or even minor emergency. He saw a P.A. the next day and she didn't even order x-rays.

I guess people in Texas are tougher. If you have ever worked on a ranch or farm, you get abrasions and lacerations often. Animals may kick or otherwise injure you. Gorge is a sissy. He should be wearing an apron in court. He only went Rambo because he had a gun and the upper hand. I keep thinking he will take his own life, but it hasn't happened yet. Has he ever been on suicide watch?

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Edgewater, FL

#28409 Jul 6, 2013
Memorial H 10 4 Texas wrote:
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Like the prosecution said, Trayvon had just as much right to stand his ground. Seeing as how he was just outside the area he was visiting and Gorge was nowhere near where he lived, Gorge was in the wrong. I don't care if he s a self-appointed NW vigilante, Gorge even said he was not "patrolling" at that time and was on his way to Target. He violated the HOA rules by carrying a firearm. If he hadn't had that firearm, I doubt the fight would have escalated. They might have wrestled, but when TM saw the weapon, he knew he had to fight for his life. If Gorge had been following the rules and hadn't been right up on TM, Gorge wouldn't have ruined his own life and brought disgrace to his family.
It's doubtful he was only a few yards from his vehicle or only followed for 10 seconds. He's not very good at watch and report which is all he was supposed to do. If you have crime around your neighborhood, install video cams, home security, and a block by block NW, not one off balance wanna be cop trying to OWN the whole community. I thank Trayvon Martin for ensuring that Gorge will never be a cop or probably even a jailer/detention worker.
Wow, if you don't write mystery novels now, maybe you should look into it. You are pretty good at making up scenerios that mystery readers may find entertaining. However, I wouldn't suggest you try to write true crime novels since you are very good at injecting your own facts.

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