Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

Mar 19, 2012 Full story: New York Daily News 29,876

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28300 Jul 5, 2013
It's curious that people are attempting to distance Mark O'Mara from involvement in the Sean Hannity interview, when he was responsible.

April 12, 2012....."Mark O'Mara, George Zimmerman's new lawyer.......
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-cha...

Exclusive: George Zimmerman breaks silence on 'Hannity'
Published July 18, 2012 | Hannity | Sean Hannity
With: George Zimmerman, Mark O'Mara
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/07...
zazz

United States

#28302 Jul 5, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Shame on you -- you're not a newbie. The BURDEN resides with THE STATE to prove to the jury that a defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, by presenting evidence which consists of testimony and exhibits.
Have you forgetting Cheney Mason's closing arguments to the jury - the defense is NOT required to prove a defendant's innocence and is legally entitled to rest without presenting any evidence at all!
Casey did not claim self defense.

The burden of an affirmative defense falls on the defense.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28304 Jul 5, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
He went on talk shows and changed his story and lied. He made it evidence. He should have kept his mouth shut. I do hope he insists on taking the stand.
Are you suggesting Mark O'Mara has been playing both sides of the table -- by facilitating high profile media activity which fuelled public sensationalism towards his client, while at the same time proclaiming his duty to defend his innocence...."donate now"!

Lawyers gotta eat too!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28305 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the defense witness is John who was the closest person to actually being there when the fight started.
I hope the prosecution asks "John" how much he is being paid to testify. LOL
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28306 Jul 5, 2013
zazz wrote:
<quoted text>
The burden of an affirmative defense falls on the defense.
Link?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28307 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
If he changed his story 50 times, that doesn't make him a murderer because he was not under oath on the Sean Hannity show. So I'm still waiting for somebody to point to what Zimmerman did that made this into a murder charge.
I'd like to see in which law handbook it has been REwritten where defense attorneys should accompany their clients to blab their story to the media, prior to trial.

Yet "don't talk to the cops" still stands.....go figure.

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#28308 Jul 5, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>
Hope this is a humorous comment. I side with evidence and truth where ever it may lead...
Bigotry against any ethnic group is wrong....
...LOL.....moonwalking now, eh?.....
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28309 Jul 5, 2013
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE

A defense in which the defendant introduces evidence, which, if found to be credible, will negate criminal or civil liability, even if it is proven that the defendant committed the alleged acts. Self-defense, entrapment, insanity, and necessity are some examples of affirmative defenses. See, e.g. Beach v. Ocwen Fed. Bank, 523 U.S. 410 (1998).

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/affirmative_de...

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"Negating criminal lability" refers to mitigating circumstances....add the use of drugs or alcohol to the above list.

However nowhere, by virtue of default, does an affirmative defense absolve the state from responsibility of proving beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty as charged, in order to convict.

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28311 Jul 5, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
So then the State should have charged GZ with lying, but they didn't. It's only common sense to file charges based upon evidence that a reasonable chance of a conviction.
However if Mark O'Mara does not put forth ANY defense on behalf of GZ, all his public appeals to fund a defense including paying for expert witnesses will look mighty suspicious.
WTF are you babbling about? The Sanford Police Department treated George as a friend of law enforcement from the get go, well before the department even had a clue who the deceased was. If George was lying, the SPD didn't give a sht...they simply bagged and tagged the John Doe and sent it along already knowing that it was just one more of Sanford's finest perps killed in the line of duty.

The state, aka the Seminole-Brevard States Attorneys office apparently never checked in publicly , at least not that we know of.

Governor Scott and Attorney General Pam Bondi pulled the case from the 18th district states attorneys office and issued it to Angela Corey's distant office. At that point it was known by all that someone inside law enforcement made an error in judgement during the very first hours of the Zimmerman case.

Since: Jul 13

Chapin, SC

#28312 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. If this jury finds Zimmerman guilty of second degree murder, it puts fear in all people wishing to defend themselves legally. It is a major blow because Zimmerman did nothing illegal, and yet he's being tried for murder without an ounce of proof.
If that isn't scary, then I don't know what is.
Wrong, if Z piss is found guilty of murder, it will put fear in stupid klan monkeys like you from shooting unarmed Blacks and Hispanics that are minding their own business.
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Jul 13

Chapin, SC

#28313 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
If he changed his story 50 times, that doesn't make him a murderer because he was not under oath on the Sean Hannity show. So I'm still waiting for somebody to point to what Zimmerman did that made this into a murder charge.
Yo' piss rated, it makes him a lying murderer racist p.o.s.
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!

“always”

Level 5

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#28314 Jul 5, 2013
Too efn funny. The Hamptons at Metro West HOA is missing a member tonight. He was patrolling while armed and threatening residents.

Perfect timing!

Full story at orlandosentinel.com

LMAO

Level 5

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28315 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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If Zimmerman murdered somebody, where is the proof?
Where is the proof that zimmerman followed Martin for no more than ten seconds?

There are none so blind as those who will not see, especially, m/f c/s lying mooches such as yourself, Pinocchio.

Level 5

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28316 Jul 5, 2013
Rambler wrote:
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE
A defense in which the defendant introduces evidence, which, if found to be credible, will negate criminal or civil liability, even if it is proven that the defendant committed the alleged acts. Self-defense, entrapment, insanity, and necessity are some examples of affirmative defenses. See, e.g. Beach v. Ocwen Fed. Bank, 523 U.S. 410 (1998).
Doesn't really matter how many times you post this.

The pedophile apologists have already swallowed their laudanum.

Level 5

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28317 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't care what he said on Hannity.
Much like you insisted that this pedophile only followed Martin for no more than ten seconds.

The state of Florida gets to care, though, because it confirms what everyone in this thread knows: that- like you- zimmerman is a m/f c/s liar.

And it is rather unlikely that the defense will put this m/f c/s liar on the stand because the prosecutor will rip him into shreds.

Much as I continue to do to you, you m/f c/s mooching waste of skin.

Level 5

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28318 Jul 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
Zimmerman's injuries
Negligible.

And self-inflicted.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28319 Jul 5, 2013
"As the state wound down its presentation, it called Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, to identify her son as the person screaming in the background of a 911 call made during his confrontation with Zimmerman.

Eight hours later, the defense called as its first witness Gladys Zimmerman, who told the court she was certain the screams came from her son. The defense case continues on Monday."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/05/19...

*****
There's a Mrs Zimmerman? The original storyline was that Trayvon was at the condo complex because his father was visiting his fiancé, who lived there.

Did the story change, or was Gladys the said resident?

Who knows!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#28320 Jul 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Where is the proof that zimmerman followed Martin for no more than ten seconds?
There are none so blind as those who will not see, especially, m/f c/s lying mooches such as yourself, Pinocchio.
Wait and see, somebody will find the video downloaded somewhere on the Internet. LOL
Spike

Massillon, OH

#28321 Jul 5, 2013
Bravo Zimmerman! A true white Hispanic American.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#28322 Jul 5, 2013
Today's witnesses included two women who have given birth to sons. The contrast between them was striking.

The first to testify showed no emotion as she spoke of her dead son, as she listened to what she claims to believe are his screams for help, even as she heard the gunshot that ended his life. She didn't even flinch at the sound of that gunshot. The only emotion she showed during her testimony was some HoDede-style annoyance at having to be bothered to answer questions.
The second looked lovingly at her son, gave him a small smile of encouragement, and there was love in her voice as she testified about him, and pain as she heard his cries for help. She was polite and respectful to attorneys from both sides.
Five of the six jurors are mothers. They could not have helped but put themselves in the place of those two women as they listened to them talk about their sons and saw their reactions to the tape. I know which one I believed, and I'm willing to be that those five moms on the jury believed the same one I did.
The only positive thing that Sybrina (the incubator) Martin did for her son today was to bring some clarity as to why this seventeen year old was a violent animal. Raised with an absent father and a cold, uncaring mother, the kid never stood a chance of becoming a normal person.

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